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UK Visit Visa Refusal - please help

Post by zubair_hr » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:13 pm

Hi

Apologies for long message, I have tried to cut it short as possible as i really need help around this.

I applied for my mother's UK Visit visa for 2 months as she is based in Pakistan.
In my sponsor letter i mentioned that I will maintain and accommodate her during her stay.

In refusal letter ECO stated - I am satisfied your sponsor is able to maintain and accommodate.

Reason for Refusal by ECO:

The Onus is also on you to qualify for entry based on your own circumstances and intention.

1. You have stated you are 'Unemployed, but earn PKR xxxx a year from a pension. However, your bank statement does not demonstrate your financial circumstances or that you are in receipt of regular Income.

2. I also note, that you have an account which was opened early Sept 2016 and PKR xxxxx was deposited in the account but your application does not demonstrate the origin of these funds which outweigh your stated income.

3. There has been no expenditure from the account, therefore it is unclear how you are supported in Pakistan. In absence of satisfactory documentation, I am not satisfied that your circumstances are as you have indicated.


The above points undermine the credibility of your application, i am not satisfied that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor or intend to leave the UK at the end of you visit.

Here are my questions

1 - Does my mother need to wait for a certain time to re-apply ?
2(a) - Shall i re-apply with same circumstances and explain how and when my mother receives her pension. i.e received in cash from a Post office - we can show this on a pension book.
2(b) - explain what is source of funds in the bank account? -
2(c)- For expenditure, can i say that she uses her pension for daily expenses as she lives with my brother and his family?
2 (d) - ECO made a mistake in his refusal the we applied for 2 weeks instead we had applied for 2 months. Can we challenge this in new application?

Your help will be really appreciated.

I look forward to your expert advice.

Thanks in advance.
Zubair

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Re: UK Visit Visa Refusal - please help

Post by CR001 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:23 pm

1 - Does my mother need to wait for a certain time to re-apply ?
No, she can apply at any time again as long as she addresses the refusal points.
2(a) - Shall i re-apply with same circumstances and explain how and when my mother receives her pension. i.e received in cash from a Post office - we can show this on a pension book.
Why did you not submit this? If you claim something in the application form, you MUST submit the evidence. The ECO is not going to accept anything said as proof without the actual proof.
2(b) - explain what is source of funds in the bank account? -
Yes, with evidence of where the funds come from. Was this deposit made only to help with the visit visa? UKVI are wise to this trick.
2(c)- For expenditure, can i say that she uses her pension for daily expenses as she lives with my brother and his family?
Yes, again, a letter from your brother would be useful.
2 (d) - ECO made a mistake in his refusal the we applied for 2 weeks instead we had applied for 2 months. Can we challenge this in new application?
Makes no difference and what would be the point of challenging it? She failed to provide evidence of her circumstances in Pakistan so the refusal was correct.
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Re: UK Visit Visa Refusal - please help

Post by zubair_hr » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:39 pm

CR001 wrote:
1 - Does my mother need to wait for a certain time to re-apply ?
No, she can apply at any time again as long as she addresses the refusal points.
Thank you for swift response, would it matter if we waited for another 6 weeks and applied again as she will be going for pilgrm
2(a) - Shall i re-apply with same circumstances and explain how and when my mother receives her pension. i.e received in cash from a Post office - we can show this on a pension book.
Why did you not submit this? If you claim something in the application form, you MUST submit the evidence. The ECO is not going to accept anything said as proof without the actual proof.
We did submit the Pension book, but did not explain in the application form the frequency when she receives the pension
2(b) - explain what is source of funds in the bank account? -
Yes, with evidence of where the funds come from. Was this deposit made only to help with the visit visa?
No Money was her share from a sold property, with new application do we need mention how much was her share and what was property worth?
UKVI are wise to this trick.
2(c)- For expenditure, can i say that she uses her pension for daily expenses as she lives with my brother and his family?
Yes, again, a letter from your brother would be useful.
thank you, had attached a letter from brother, but did not mention about expenditure, in new application will explain a bit more
2 (d) - ECO made a mistake in his refusal the we applied for 2 weeks instead we had applied for 2 months. Can we challenge this in new application?
Makes no difference and what would be the point of challenging it? She failed to provide evidence of her circumstances in Pakistan so the refusal was correct.
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Re: UK Visit Visa Refusal - please help

Post by CR001 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:49 pm

Thank you for swift response, would it matter if we waited for another 6 weeks and applied again as she will be going for pilgrm
She can apply at any time, there is no restriction etc.
We did submit the Pension book, but did not explain in the application form the frequency when she receives the pension
Don't expect UKVI to guess what the circumstances are. You have to explain it.
No Money was her share from a sold property, with new application do we need mention how much was her share and what was property worth
You will need to submit evidence of this as it is the sale of an asset and the paper trail for the transfer.
thank you, had attached a letter from brother, but did not mention about expenditure, in new application will explain a bit more
It is all about the detail, which the applicant must provide.
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Re: UK Visit Visa Refusal - please help

Post by zubair_hr » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:28 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thank you for swift response, would it matter if we waited for another 6 weeks and applied again as she will be going for pilgrm
She can apply at any time, there is no restriction etc.
awesome, thank you
We did submit the Pension book, but did not explain in the application form the frequency when she receives the pension
Don't expect UKVI to guess what the circumstances are. You have to explain it.
you are right, i've learnt it hard way, i only expected they will be more interested in my details/documents etc.
No Money was her share from a sold property, with new application do we need mention how much was her share and what was property worth
You will need to submit evidence of this as it is the sale of an asset and the paper trail for the transfer.
will try to get some paperwork for sale as the property was in village.
If not possible, would it be OK if we submit a bank statement for a joint account in my mother and my brother's name?
thank you, had attached a letter from brother, but did not mention about expenditure, in new application will explain a bit more
It is all about the detail, which the applicant must provide.

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