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Need replacement ILR letter/certificate - but now citizen

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Need replacement ILR letter/certificate - but now citizen

Post by mmumpitz » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:44 pm

Hi,

For our son's passport application, we need a proof of when my wife received ILR (he was born afterwards and is therefore a British citizen). However, she has since become a citizen herself and had to destroy her BRP card in the process. We still have a photocopy of the card and sent it to the Passport Office but unsurprisingly they didn't accept it.

Unfortunately, my wife didn't keep the letter that the card came with and thus has no original proof of when she received ILR. The Home Office only lists a service to apply for a new BRP but that's not an option, given that she's a British citizen now.

Is there a way to obtain a certificate with the date of the original ILR from the Home Office or is there another proof that the Passport Office would accept? I would have guessed that they should be able to retrieve that information based on her British passport/citizenship but apparently not...

Thanks!

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Re: Need replacement ILR letter/certificate - but now citize

Post by vinny » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:37 pm

A few members have this problem. Did your wife acquire PR via the EEA regulations or ILR under Long Residence via the Immigration rules?

Try SAR.
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Re: Need replacement ILR letter/certificate - but now citize

Post by mmumpitz » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:37 pm

The latter (ILR - no EEA rules involved).

Thanks for the SAR-link, will try that. Would you happen to know if the ILR case/proof would be included in the "IT records" available under the "Fast Track application" process? Would guess so but the description is not very clear...

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Re: Need replacement ILR letter/certificate - but now citize

Post by vinny » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:46 pm

Sorry don't know. But I would expect SAR to include the date on when they granted ILR.
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Re: Need replacement ILR letter/certificate - but now citize

Post by mmumpitz » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:10 pm

I have now exchanged 9 letters with the Passport Office (and have not managed to get our case worker on the phone - despite multiple promises for a call back...). :-(

For my son's passport application they still require additional original proof of my wife's date of obtaining ILR. I have done a full SAR-request with the Home Office and received a stack of documents which (amongst a whole lot of other things) clearly state that specific date in at least 5 different places. It even includes a whole summary of her successful ILR application and then of her successful citizenship application both stating the date of obtaining ILR.

Sent all of that to the Passport Office but apparently that's not sufficient - they still explicitly insist on a separate letter from the Home Office stating that date.

I don't understand that requirement but clearly can't win here... Does anybody know how to best obtain that (i.e., where to send that request to - is there a specific service for these things)?

[Side question: On our request, they're sending back my son's current (German) passport, since we need to travel. However, "for security reasons" they insist on us sending it back in when having obtained that Home Office letter. Doesn't make sense to me, is there a real rationale for that?]

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