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Extending Spouse Visa advice

Post by joannaym » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:24 pm

Hello,

I came across this website by chance and is my first time posting, would really appreciate any and all advice!

I am an American, and live in England with my british Husband- I came here on a spouse visa after we got married in the USA. My visa is due to expire this coming May 2017.

For our initial application we hired a solicitor to help us get our documents together, so my first question would be whether the extension application is straight forwards, do we need to spend another £800-£1600 on a solicitor? Our situation has not changed- we are still together, live together, my husband earns over the financial threshold required. I have also been working full time.

Next question would be, can I apply for this extension now? or should I wait until April for the 28 days? I have a job that requires me to travel and have a business trip at the beginning of June and do not want to be left stranded without my passport at that time. I have heard that applying early may be inconvinient as I may have to reapply before I am able to get IDL at the 5 year mark.

And third question- as my job does require me to travel, its been brought to my attention that the maximum time I am able to spend outside of the UK each year is 90 days. Is this true? I cannot find it anywhere on the forms and guidelines posted on the UKBA gov website. My husband and I are also eager to move abroad in the next 1-2 years but would not want to jeopardise our chances of me getting IDL after coming back after living aboard for a year during the extension period.

Thanks in advance for any advice!! :D

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Re: Extending Spouse Visa advice

Post by CR001 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:07 pm

joannaym wrote:Hello,

I came across this website by chance and is my first time posting, would really appreciate any and all advice!

I am an American, and live in England with my british Husband- I came here on a spouse visa after we got married in the USA. My visa is due to expire this coming May 2017.

For our initial application we hired a solicitor to help us get our documents together, so my first question would be whether the extension application is straight forwards, do we need to spend another £800-£1600 on a solicitor? Our situation has not changed- we are still together, live together, my husband earns over the financial threshold required. I have also been working full time. You don't need a solicitor.

Next question would be, can I apply for this extension now? or should I wait until April for the 28 days? I have a job that requires me to travel and have a business trip at the beginning of June and do not want to be left stranded without my passport at that time. I have heard that applying early may be inconvinient as I may have to reapply before I am able to get IDL at the 5 year mark. On what date did you ENTER the UK? If you apply too early (assuming you are applying in person), yes, you will have a shortfall further down the line.

And third question- as my job does require me to travel, its been brought to my attention that the maximum time I am able to spend outside of the UK each year is 90 days. Is this true? I cannot find it anywhere on the forms and guidelines posted on the UKBA gov website. My husband and I are also eager to move abroad in the next 1-2 years but would not want to jeopardise our chances of me getting IDL after coming back after living aboard for a year during the extension period. No, it is not true. There is no real absence limit but absences should be limited and for good reason. Absence of 180 days or more will need to be declared at ILR stage. Absences of 180 days or more also break continuity of residence.

Thanks in advance for any advice!! :D

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Re: Extending Spouse Visa advice

Post by joannaym » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:07 pm

Hi, thanks for your super speedy reply!

I entered the UK on 17th September 2014. I was planning on applying either by post or online, but havent read through the step by step for this process yet. I am leaning towards a paper application as I am more familiar with this and how to submit supporting documents like we did for my initial application.

Can you please elaborate on the continuity of residence?
And can I confirm that an absence of less than 180 does not have to be declared at ILR stage?

Thank you! :)

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Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by joannaym » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:54 pm

Hello!

I am applying for my FLR(M) soon and have a few questions.
A bit of background, I am a US citizen and arrived in the UK on 15th Sep 2014.
My visa is due to run out in May 2017.
As I am traveling for work in mid June, I am planning on submitting my application on 15 March so that this at least satisfies that I have been in the UK for 2.5 years, definitely making sure that I can hit the 5 year mark to apply for ILR when this extension runs out!

1. Of course there is no guarantee, but if submitted by post, will the application have a good chance of being processed by the beginning of June 2017 if submitted by 15 March?
2. To prove that we satisfy the financial threshold (both my partner and I earn over the minimum threshold), are our wage slips enough, or should we include banking statements as well? A lot of my documents are in both my maiden and married name, is this a problem?
3. We noticed that there is not as much of a demand for proof of bona fide relationship- is this because this is an extension and they are not as strict? I remember in the orginal visa we had to include certified affidavits, bank transfers, phone logs, photos etc. We will be including utility bills, do we require any other documentation such as photos of us together etc?
4. Are we required to submit our marriage certificate again?
5. Are we required to have another property inspection? I cannot find any information saying that this is required for FLRM?
6. last but not least- is there an advantage in applying visa post vs applying online??


Thank you in advance for your help!! Sorry for all the little questions!!

thank you!
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:05 pm

1. Of course there is no guarantee, but if submitted by post, will the application have a good chance of being processed by the beginning of June 2017 if submitted by 15 March?
Possibly not. Suggest apply in person for same day decision.
2. To prove that we satisfy the financial threshold (both my partner and I earn over the minimum threshold), are our wage slips enough, or should we include banking statements as well? A lot of my documents are in both my maiden and married name, is this a problem?
Bank statements with the corresponding payslips is mandatory. Not submitting bank statements will result in a refusal. Maiden name not an issue.
3. We noticed that there is not as much of a demand for proof of bona fide relationship- is this because this is an extension and they are not as strict? I remember in the orginal visa we had to include certified affidavits, bank transfers, phone logs, photos etc. We will be including utility bills, do we require any other documentation such as photos of us together etc?
Not photos or phone logs. Page 65/66 of the FLR(M) form gives examples and how much HO expect to see with your application.
4. Are we required to submit our marriage certificate again?
Yes
5. Are we required to have another property inspection? I cannot find any information saying that this is required for FLRM?
If living in share accommodation, yes. If renting with sole occupation, no.
6. last but not least- is there an advantage in applying visa post vs applying online??
Postal can take up to six months, sometimes longer. You cannot apply online. Do you mean 'in person'? If yes, same day decision, 10 days for BRP card.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by Obie » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:15 pm

I am not convinced that absence of 180 days affect an applicant under Appendix FM.

It may well be the case that this may affect PBS migrants and Long residence. However I am of the view that it has no effect on settlement under Appendix FM, provided of course the spouse relationship continues.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:35 pm

Obie wrote:I am not convinced that absence of 180 days affect an applicant under Appendix FM.
No it does not affect Set(M) applications. 180 days or more only need to be declared on the form for ILR though.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by Obie » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:46 pm

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Obie wrote:I am not convinced that absence of 180 days affect an applicant under Appendix FM.
No it does not affect Set(M) applications. 180 days or more only need to be declared on the form for ILR though.

I accept that it needs to be declared. The part that was puzzling me is the suggestion that it breaks continuity of residence for SET (M).

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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by joannaym » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:36 pm

Thanks for your reply and your answers, great to know about the bank statements corresponding with payslips, I would not have known!

I have seen on several places that there is an option to make this application online- on page two of the application as well as on the GOV website? I am assuming that it is still better to apply via post?

Many thanks!
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by joannaym » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:39 pm

A quick question re: the property inspection- the description given on the .gov website referrs multiple times to the fact that this is required prior to the immigrant entering the UK.

"The inspection fee is £110 and is valid for 12 weeks prior to the immigrant entering the UK."

However myself and my husband have been renting at this property for over 2 years (almost 3 years for him) do we still require the inspection?

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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:49 pm

Obie wrote:
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Obie wrote:I am not convinced that absence of 180 days affect an applicant under Appendix FM.
No it does not affect Set(M) applications. 180 days or more only need to be declared on the form for ILR though.

I accept that it needs to be declared. The part that was puzzling me is the suggestion that it breaks continuity of residence for SET (M).

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My answer previously to the OP was in relation to the statement that they were thinking of moving abroad for 1 to 2 years and then coming back.
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Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:53 pm

joannaym wrote:Thanks for your reply and your answers, great to know about the bank statements corresponding with payslips, I would not have known! Also note that the most recent payslip and bank statement cannot be older than 28 days at the time of application.

I have seen on several places that there is an option to make this application online- on page two of the application as well as on the GOV website? I am assuming that it is still better to apply via post? Applying online is likely for in person appointments and same decisions. Postal you still hve to post the form to the relevant address. It is better to apply in person, if you don't have an issue paying the extra £500 for same day decision.

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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:54 pm

joannaym wrote:A quick question re: the property inspection- the description given on the .gov website referrs multiple times to the fact that this is required prior to the immigrant entering the UK.

"The inspection fee is £110 and is valid for 12 weeks prior to the immigrant entering the UK."

However myself and my husband have been renting at this property for over 2 years (almost 3 years for him) do we still require the inspection?

thanks!
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If you rent the property exclusively and only you and hubby reside there, a property inspection report is NOT needed.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:55 pm

Don't forget that you also have to pay the immigration health surcharge of £500 before you can submit your application.
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by joannaym » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:25 pm

Hello!

I now have an appointment to submit my FLRM visa application in person at a premium centre mid April.

I am just going through my application and want to be absolutely certain I’ve done everything correctly and have a few extra questions I was hoping I could get some guidance on!

1. On the payment page, there is a segment re: biometric handling fee. When or where will my biometrics be taken? I don't recall ever having a biometric residence permit? (are USA citizens even required to have one to reside here?)

2. We are only using my husband’s income with this application instead of a combined income. (he is category A and I category B) but I’ve started to fill out the employment and employer details for myself also on Section 7.3A, page 29. Do I need to leave my squares blank?

3. My husband’s annual income from May 2016-Feb 2017 was 25,000 a year, and from Feb to now his annual income is 26,000/year. Which should we use in figure 7.3 on page 30? Should i elaborate at the end of Section 7 in the notes box?

4. Husband’s employment certification letter is dated 3rd April, and our visa appointment is on 18th April. Is this OK?

5. Is the below evidence of accommodation sufficient?
Addressed Jointly(x2): Water Bill Jan '17, Council Tax March '17
Addressed to myself(x5): NHS referral letter Nov '15, Bank statement Jan '16, Phone contract confirmation June '16, Different bank statement Aug '16, HMRC tax letter Jan '17
Addressed to my husband(x5): Phone Direct Debit Conf May '15, Bank Statement Aug '15, ISA investment letter April '16, NPower statement May '16, HMRC Tax letter Oct '16

Thank you so much again for all your advice!!

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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by joannaym » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:45 am

HI! I was wondering if anyone would be able to comment on my previous post/questions.

We now have the printed bank statements verified by the bank as well as paper bank statements to make up the entire past 12 months, with the last 'statement' dated 12th April, and shows March's salary line item on March 28th.

Am I safe to assume we have everything in order?

I've read a few other people's success stories on here, and wanted to know if 2-3 hours is enough time to spend at the application-in-person appointment, or do we need more time?

Thank you so so much!
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Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:36 pm

joannaym wrote:Am I safe to assume we have everything in order? Should be fine.

I've read a few other people's success stories on here, and wanted to know if 2-3 hours is enough time to spend at the application-in-person appointment, or do we need more time? It is not up to you. HO will take as long or as quick as needed on the day and all you can do is wait. I have sat the whole day (8:30am to 4pm) on one of my applications.

Thank you so so much!
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Re: Spouse Visa Extention- FLR(M) Help please!

Post by joannaym » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:41 am

Hello,

I just wanted to post to say thank you for all your support, I had my FLRM granted yesterday at the premium service centre and all went smoothly! :)

You have been a massive help!!

thank you!
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Recap - FLR(M) extension experience at Liverpool Centre

Post by joannaym » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:59 am

Hi,

I'm a US citizen, married to a brit and have been here for 2.5 years on a spouse visa. This is my experience in applying for the FLR(M) extension of my visa to remain here a further 2.5 years!

I went along to the Premium centre in Liverpool yesterday and was granted 30 months FLR(M) extention of my spouse visa- This is to share my experience!

Our appointment was at 9:30am, and we arrived early at 9:00am. They have you pass through security (metal detector) and give you a number and we took a seat in the Waiting room.
At 9:25am, a caseworker called us up and we presented our documents. She asked for the appointment confirmation/checklist, and also for our passports. She told us that (I believe due to new legislation?) if we did not meet the financial requirements then our visa would not be denied, but rather put on a hold and dealt with in a case by case basis. This took about 5 minutes.
We sat down in the waiting area again whilst she went through our paperwork to make sure all was in order.

Around 10:10, I was called up and given a sheet and my passport and was told that I was to have my bio-metrics taken, and to wait for my number to be called. At 10:35 my number was called and they took my fingerprints and photograph, a process which took about 2 minutes. Then, back to the waiting room.

We waited then, until 12:30 when we were called up by the caseworker and told that our application had been successful. I I thought I had made copies of the proof of address documents, but evidently I had not as I saw the caseworker make copies of those documents- the waiting process may have been shorter had I remembered! I was told that my BRP would be posted to me in 7 working days time.

All together, we were there for 3 hours and 30 minutes.

Overall, it was a very pain free experience. I wish that they could have told us that the wait would bee approx 1 or 2 hours as I was starving! But aside from this, I cannot complain.

Below are the documents I had presented for my FLR(M)

Initial Documents:
• Appointment Booking Checklist
• Application Payment Confirmation
• Immigration Health Surcharge number & Payment Confirmation
• Completed FLR(M) – Signed and Dated with attached passport sized photographs (Applicant x 2, Sponsor x 1)
Group 1: Personal Documents
• Applicant’s Passport
• Applicant’s previous passport with current visa
• Sponsor’s Passport
• Sponsor’s previous passport
• Applicant’s birth certificate
• Sponsor’s birth certificates
• Original Marriage Certificate
Group 2: Financial and Accommodation Documents:
• Financial Documents
o Sponsor’s current employment certification letter x 2 copies
o Sponsor’s original contract dated 13th March 2013
o Sponsor’s original wage slips x 13 (March 2016 - March2017) & copy
o Sponsor’s original bank statements for the following timeframes & copy:
 15th February 2016 – 15th August 2016
 11th January 2017 – 15th March 2017
o Sponsor’s bank statements printed and validated in-branch for the following timeframes & copy:
 15th August 2016 – 11th January 2017
 3rd January 2017 – 10th April 2017
• Accommodation Documents
o Original assured tenancy agreement of sponsor and applicant’s privately rented flat
o Original deposit protection services letter
Group 3: Evidence of Relationship, proof of address
• Jointly addressed (2):
o Water Bill dated 10th January 2017
o Council Tax Bill dated 6th March 2017
• Addressed to Applicant (5):
o NHS Cardiology referral letter dated 7th November 2015
o Halifax bank statement dated January 2016
o O2 mobile contract letter dated 1st June 2016
o Yorkshire Bank statement dated 2nd August 2016
o HMRC Tax letter dated 26th January 2017
• Addressed to Sponsor (5):
o Vodafone direct debit confirmation dated May 2015
o Santander Bank statement dated 6th September 2015
o FundSmith ISA Investment Summary dated 8th April 2016
o Npower Bill Summary dated 17th May 2016
o HMRC Tax letter dated 8th March 2017
• Proof of Relationship
o X3 photos of us over the past few years
o The certified affidavit letters from our previous original spouse visa application (application made from the USA) for good measure

Hope this is helpful to someone, and wishing everyone the best of luck with their Visas!

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Re: Recap - FLR(M) extension experience at Liverpool Centre

Post by Adapt2Cs » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:16 pm

Hi Jo,

Did you decide to fill out your employment details in the table or leave them blank?

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Re: Recap - FLR(M) extension experience at Liverpool Centre

Post by joannaym » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:29 pm

Hi Adapt2Cs,

I decided to leave all of my boxes in Section 7.3 on Page 29 blank because we were using only my husband's income to support my application.

No questions were asked about my employment

Thanks!
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