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Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:53 am

Dear Gurus ,

Can I apply within 14 days of the AR decision for depended application ?


However if I applied TIER 2 depended within 14 days then I can vary FLR ( M) if TIER 2 dep not finalised at PEO ??

Technically TIER 2 dep will be within the 14 days of overstay , but FLR( M) will be beyond ( lets say 30 days) but before the out of time TIER 2 dep decided ??



Please its very urgent ... Gurus get back


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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:59 am

Hi CR001 , Case , Obie ,

Please help on this

Urgent

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:48 am

You can vary an application only if it is undecided. If it is refused then you cannot vary it
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:56 am

Hi Zimba thanks for the reply ,
Please answer the followings

Technically TIER 2 dep will be within the 14 days of overstay
but FLR( M) will be beyond ( lets say 20 days of the Section 3 C but TIER 2 dep under process ) but before the out of time TIER 2 dep decided ??

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:00 am

Hi Zimba 88 ,

Please find the dates so its make it easy


AR Refusal : 12/07/2017
TIER 2 Dep apps : 22/07/2017

FLR (M) Vary : 01/08/2017 ??? is it possible to vary at PEO to FLR(M)


Please help

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:37 am

As I said, you can vary a valid but undecided application at anytime. This has nothing to do with when your section 3C ended, given that the very first application was submitted within 14 days of section 3C coming to an end.
Varying a postal application at PSC will not lead to a same day decision as your documents must be requested to be sent to a PSC :!:
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:04 pm

Thanks Zamba , your great
zimba88 wrote:As I said, you can vary a valid but undecided application at anytime. This has nothing to do with when your section 3C ended, given that the very first application was submitted within 14 days of section 3C coming to an end.
Varying a postal application at PSC will not lead to a same day decision as your documents must be requested to be sent to a PSC :!:

Sorry i did not get it

Lets say I apply TIER 2 on 22/07/2017 but not decided ( within 14 days of the AR refusal on 12/07/2017 )

But if I apply FLR ( M) on 01/08/2017 via PEO then my FLR (M) is valid ??

Sorry I confused

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:40 pm

I do not understand why you are so confused. It is really simple. :?
Tier 2 application applied within 14 days will be VALID. You can then vary this pending application (Tier 2) to FLR(M) at anytime as long as your Tier 2 application is pending and UNDECIDED.

The real question is why not apply for FLR(M) from the start ????!! Why are you even considering this ??
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by marcnath » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:43 pm

To make it simple, read the guidelines on variation.

Date of application: application to vary
Where an application is varied, the application date remains the date of the original application.


So, if you vary your applications 60 days later (for example), as long it was varied when it was undecided, it will take the date of the original application.

Full guidance at https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... n-v1.0.pdf
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:54 pm

zimba88 wrote:I do not understand why you are so confused. It is really simple. :?
Tier 2 application applied within 14 days will be VALID. You can then vary this pending application (Tier 2) to FLR(M) at anytime as long as your Tier 2 application is pending and UNDECIDED.

The real question is why not apply for FLR(M) from the start ????!! Why are you even considering this ??

Thanks Zimba ,


Its a TIER 2 Dep application not TIER 2

My Mr apply end of this month , so I have to wait until that

Thanks again and thanks to Marcnath

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:04 pm

If your spouse is apply for ILR on the basis of 10 years, you should apply for FLR(M) at the same time with them. No need for variation :?
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:08 pm

zimba88 wrote:If your spouse is apply for ILR on the basis of 10 years, you should apply for FLR(M) at the same time with them. No need for variation :?

Thanks Zimba ,

He applies under 5 years .. hope all fine


Thanks again

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:20 pm

Why FLR(M) then ?? :?
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:23 pm

zimba88 wrote:Why FLR(M) then ?? :?

Once he got ILR then how can be a TIER 2 dep

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:28 pm

You can remain and extend as a PBS dependant until eligible for ILR as he is applying under 5 year settlement :D
Apply for a PBS dependant extension at the same time as his ILR. You absolutely do not need to apply for an FLR(M) :idea:
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:30 pm

zimba88 wrote:You can remain and extend as a PBS dependant until eligible for ILR as he is applying under 5 year settlement :D
Apply for a PBS dependant extension at the same time as his ILR. You absolutely do not need to apply for an FLR(M) :idea:

Thanks Zimba


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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by awaitingILR » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:40 pm

Sorry Pusm, Just wanted to ask what was reason for your refusal and when did you give your interview?

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by CR001 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:35 pm

awaitingILR wrote:Sorry Pusm, Just wanted to ask what was reason for your refusal and when did you give your interview?

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by CR001 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:37 pm

@pusm - have you got your ILR now and on what basis?
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:24 pm

pusm wrote:
zimba88 wrote:You can remain and extend as a PBS dependant until eligible for ILR as he is applying under 5 year settlement :D
Apply for a PBS dependant extension at the same time as his ILR. You absolutely do not need to apply for an FLR(M) :idea:

Thanks Zimba


Your great
Hi Zimba ,

Sorry to trouble you , the admin team maintain the decision for my TIER 1 ILR - 322(5)

Does this 322-5 have any impact on my FLR M application ?? because next few days am going to PEO

Please kindly advise

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:32 am

Dear Gurus ,

am just filling the FLR (M) apps , I do not understand how to fill this questions

10.12 Have you or any dependants who are applying with you ever engaged in any other
activities which might indicate that you may not be considered to be persons of good character?

So If say NO and then

Can I explain I have refused under 322 -5 in the additional box ???
I also notify everything in the AR

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:44 pm

pusm wrote:Dear Gurus ,

am just filling the FLR (M) apps , I do not understand how to fill this questions

10.12 Have you or any dependants who are applying with you ever engaged in any other
activities which might indicate that you may not be considered to be persons of good character?

So If say NO and then

Can I explain I have refused under 322 -5 in the additional box ???
I also notify everything in the AR

Hi Zamba

Any updates on this

Please

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:38 pm

This is becoming confusing. What happened to your spouse's ILR ?? Why are you saying your ILR ?? Why are you going down the FLR(M) route ??? :?
You really did not make it clear what is going on
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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by pusm » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:55 pm

Hi Zimba

Me and him apply same day next week

So morning him evening mine as FLR M

Is the 322-5 will have any impact

I am going to disclose all

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Re: Very Urgent help !! Variation

Post by zimba » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:43 pm

You were advised against the FLR(M) route as you can remain and extend as a PBS dependant.
You did not explain when, who and how you got a refusal based on 322-5 ?!!? :?
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