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https://eforms.homeoffice.gov.uk/outrea ... ments.ofmlconfusedandsad wrote:^Thanks, that is helpful.
Can you please provide me the link where you got that information?
I will wait to I get the biometrics letter, submit, then leave.Casa wrote:....and if you intend to leave the UK within one week of marrying once you have submitted your RC application, how will you provide biometrics if you have left the country
For non EEA, a passport is the only way they have to prove their identity in this country, that's the reason they allow applicants to ask for their passport backconfusedandsad wrote:What is the point of requesting for my passport back then if i can't travel? Why would they offer a service that in essence has no use?
Before I applied for my residence card, I applied for a UK driving license (just the provisional, I still have a foreign one but wasn't ready to convert it) so i had a UK form of ID rather than just a foreign licence, but you can use "some/a few"(Cnanadian, Australian) foreign licences even non-eea licences as ID, I used mine as proof of age many times, but I could use it to open a post office bank account).wegiwegi wrote:For non EEA, a passport is the only way they have to prove their identity in this country, that's the reason they allow applicants to ask for their passport backconfusedandsad wrote:What is the point of requesting for my passport back then if i can't travel? Why would they offer a service that in essence has no use?
Current full UK/EU/USA/Canada/Australia photo card driving license (no more than 10yrs old)
Read more at http://www.postoffice.co.uk/standard-ac ... 62vIiik.99
The application fee (postal) for FLR(M) is currently £933 + £500 NHS surcharge. If you apply in person at a PSC the additional premium fee will be £590.confusedandsad wrote:Hi all,
Seems this is getting complicated on my end to go down the European route given the time I will be left without my passport.
As my wife (to be) is also a Permanent Resident to avoid complications of spending time without a passport I am thinking I might just apply for the UK spouse visa and just cop the higher fee and go for the premium service in the UK. You can only apply for FLR(M) from within the UK if your Tier 2 visa is still valid, or is within 14 days of being curtailed. I believe you've already resigned from your employment? Does your fiancee meet the minimum income level of £18,600 p.a?
If I go down this route, can I apply for a british passport after living in the UK for 3 years? I understand that the visa is 2.5 years so I would have to extend it twice but is it 3 years or 5 years? No, as you will need to have first been granted ILR which takes 5 years. Unless your wife has obtained British citizenship by then, you will have to wait a further 12 months after ILR. An FLR(M) visa has to be extended after 2.5 years (2.5 + 2.5). Also, you will only be entitled to apply for a British passport once you have been granted British citizenship.
If it is 3 years to get the passport it is worth it on my side to pay the extra fees and avoid the hassle of waiting around for my passport. THe uk premium service is very handy. See above.
My fiance makes more than 18,600 p.a. I have stayed beyond 60 days now since my last day of employment, however, I have not yet received a curtailment letter.Casa wrote:The application fee (postal) for FLR(M) is currently £933 + £500 NHS surcharge. If you apply in person at a PSC the additional premium fee will be £590.confusedandsad wrote:Hi all,
Seems this is getting complicated on my end to go down the European route given the time I will be left without my passport.
As my wife (to be) is also a Permanent Resident to avoid complications of spending time without a passport I am thinking I might just apply for the UK spouse visa and just cop the higher fee and go for the premium service in the UK. You can only apply for FLR(M) from within the UK if your Tier 2 visa is still valid, or is within 14 days of being curtailed. I believe you've already resigned from your employment? Does your fiancee meet the minimum income level of £18,600 p.a?
If I go down this route, can I apply for a british passport after living in the UK for 3 years? I understand that the visa is 2.5 years so I would have to extend it twice but is it 3 years or 5 years? No, as you will need to have first been granted ILR which takes 5 years. Unless your wife has obtained British citizenship by then, you will have to wait a further 12 months after ILR. An FLR(M) visa has to be extended after 2.5 years (2.5 + 2.5). Also, you will only be entitled to apply for a British passport once you have been granted British citizenship.
If it is 3 years to get the passport it is worth it on my side to pay the extra fees and avoid the hassle of waiting around for my passport. THe uk premium service is very handy. See above.
Some members have been able to confirm whether their leave has been curtailed by phoning the UKVI on 0300 123 2241
Alternatively, you can apply for a Subject Access Request (SAR) online which will give you an idea of what information the HO hold on you. This may save you losing the FLR(M) application fee if it transpires that your Tier 2 visa has been curtailed and you no longer have Section 3c leave.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... mmigration
I think it's a mistype I believe it is meant to be ILR (i.e. hit the o key instead of the i, they are right next to each other )confusedandsad wrote:What is OLE?
As Stated already by CR001confusedandsad wrote: https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-c ... sh-citizen
But my fiance can become a british citizen in feb18 next year. The guidance says its 3 years?
There is a three-year residency requirement if your spouse is a British Citizen, however, you must have ILR or PR know as settled status in the UK so you can remain without any time limit is a condition of naturalisation. However, there is NO spouse route to settled status in under five years (there was but it was abolished in 2012 and replaced by the FLR (M) which is a series of two 2.5 year visas after which you may obtain ILR - again a requirement for Naturalisation).CR001 wrote:No it does not. You require ILR before you can apply for citizenship. To get ILR or PR you need 5 years residence. There is no shorter route to OLE or PR.
Probably.confusedandsad wrote:What is ILR? Indefinite Leave to Remain = Permanent Residence under the UK Immigration Rules
So why do they have the 3-year requirement? Is there ever a situation when someone can get citizenship even though they have not been in the UK for 3 years? If everyone is supposed to be in the UK for 5 years, why do they even have the 3-year requirement What situation is it meant to capture? No there isn't now. Previously anyone who applied for a Spouse Settlement visa before July 9th 2012 only had to complete 2 years under limited leave to remain to qualify for ILR and then 1 year after would qualify for British citizenship. That is no longer an option as it's a minimum 5 year path to settlement (ILR).
If the UK and EU route both require 5 years then it is a no brainer to go down the EU route. It is much cheaper and you get an extra 2.5 years. Is there a benefit of going down the UK route I am missing? Apart from the premium service of course. Brexit may mean that someone starting out on the 5 year EEA route to permanent residence may not have time to qualify.
My fiancee might be able to get 1-2 weeks to visit NZ aswell. If she visits for part of the trip while I am there does this help my cause? There is no way she will be able to get the whole 30 days off to join me
Casa wrote:Probably.confusedandsad wrote:What is ILR? Indefinite Leave to Remain = Permanent Residence under the UK Immigration Rules
So why do they have the 3-year requirement? Is there ever a situation when someone can get citizenship even though they have not been in the UK for 3 years? If everyone is supposed to be in the UK for 5 years, why do they even have the 3-year requirement What situation is it meant to capture? No there isn't now. Previously anyone who applied for a Spouse Settlement visa before July 9th 2012 only had to complete 2 years under limited leave to remain to qualify for ILR and then 1 year after would qualify for British citizenship. That is no longer an option as it's a minimum 5 year path to settlement (ILR).
If the UK and EU route both require 5 years then it is a no brainer to go down the EU route. It is much cheaper and you get an extra 2.5 years. Is there a benefit of going down the UK route I am missing? Apart from the premium service of course. Brexit may mean that someone starting out on the 5 year EEA route to permanent residence may not have time to qualify.
My fiancee might be able to get 1-2 weeks to visit NZ aswell. If she visits for part of the trip while I am there does this help my cause? There is no way she will be able to get the whole 30 days off to join me
YESconfusedandsad wrote:Casa wrote:Probably.confusedandsad wrote:What is ILR? Indefinite Leave to Remain = Permanent Residence under the UK Immigration Rules
So why do they have the 3-year requirement? Is there ever a situation when someone can get citizenship even though they have not been in the UK for 3 years? If everyone is supposed to be in the UK for 5 years, why do they even have the 3-year requirement What situation is it meant to capture? No there isn't now. Previously anyone who applied for a Spouse Settlement visa before July 9th 2012 only had to complete 2 years under limited leave to remain to qualify for ILR and then 1 year after would qualify for British citizenship. That is no longer an option as it's a minimum 5 year path to settlement (ILR).
If the UK and EU route both require 5 years then it is a no brainer to go down the EU route. It is much cheaper and you get an extra 2.5 years. Is there a benefit of going down the UK route I am missing? Apart from the premium service of course. Brexit may mean that someone starting out on the 5 year EEA route to permanent residence may not have time to qualify.
My fiancee might be able to get 1-2 weeks to visit NZ aswell. If she visits for part of the trip while I am there does this help my cause? There is no way she will be able to get the whole 30 days off to join me
I am still confused why they include the 3 years in the guidance if it is no longer relevant? Don't stress about it. That's how it is.
Can I apply under UK route if my wife is a Permanent Resident and not citizen?
To show his wife with his family in New Zealand, as an indication that the marriage might not have been entered into simply for immigration advantage.Casa wrote:I'm slightly confused. What photos for the UK Immigration Officer
There are faster ways of being in the UK without a time limit. Dependent children can get ILR once the relevant parents are settled, and some people entering from the Republic of Ireland are automatically not subject to any time limit.confusedandsad wrote:I am still confused why they include the 3 years in the guidance if it is no longer relevant?
Yes.confusedandsad wrote:Can I apply under UK route if my wife is a Permanent Resident and not citizen?
One year 364 days.confusedandsad wrote:How long can my wife be outside of the UK before she has to reapply for Permanent Residency again?
I was suggesting that you fly back together without waiting for a family permit. When you arrive in the UK, you insist on being stamped in using an EEA Regulation stamp.confusedandsad wrote:I did not understand this, are you saying she visits me and we travel back together after my EEA family permit has been approved?
It makes it easier to enter the UK. A spouse is good walking documentation of one's being a family member. It also makes it easier for Immigration to confirm that you are entering with or joining your spouse - they won't get the confirmation process wrong!confusedandsad wrote:At this stage I am planning to return home to put in the application after a 3-4 day honeymoon then she will join me 3-4 weeks after for a 1-2 week holiday and we will fly back together to the UK
Does this make my application more supportive?
Is there a reason why I would do this over just applying for the family permit given it is free?Richard W wrote:I was suggesting that you fly back together without waiting for a family permit. When you arrive in the UK, you insist on being stamped in using an EEA Regulation stamp.confusedandsad wrote:I did not understand this, are you saying she visits me and we travel back together after my EEA family permit has been approved?
rong!
Am I missing something here Richard?confusedandsad wrote:Is there a reason why I would do this over just applying for the family permit given it is free?Richard W wrote:I was suggesting that you fly back together without waiting for a family permit. When you arrive in the UK, you insist on being stamped in using an EEA Regulation stamp.confusedandsad wrote:I did not understand this, are you saying she visits me and we travel back together after my EEA family permit has been approved?
rong!
As I am on a tier 2 visa currently, I have been told this option of just returning and having passport stamped will make things difficult. Isnt it just easier to apply for the family permit? Or is there a reason why you are suggesting I shouldnt? I will be in NZ for >30 days and the website says 100% of applications have been processed in 30 days historically.
