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Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by mthomas » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:41 pm

Dear All,

I'm looking to apply for a spouse visa for my wife around September time and I'm currently looking for adequate accommodation for us both. The problem that I'm having at the moment is landlords/agents are refusing to provide me with a no objection letter giving permission for my wife to reside with me unless she has a UK visa, yet to apply for a UK spouse visa I need the landlord letter as part of her application.

How can I overcome this difficulty?

Your advice is very much appreciated.

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by vinny » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:18 pm

Seems like a catch 22?

Perhaps they could write: "If spouse has a spouse visa, then we have no objections to spouse living at address with husband", etc.?
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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by Freespirit021 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:34 pm

This is an excellent question. I would consult a solicitor if you are using one or refer to GOV.UK and look for information in the Right to Rent PDF. I was already in the UK when this took effect and we rented privately so copies of our Visas were submitted and all was done.

Good luck to you and all the best for your future

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by SimonS » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:43 pm

I've lived in my rented property for 2 years and my landlord was more understanding and provided the letter. In the letter we agreed to use the language, "when his wife comes to the UK we will issue a new contract"

So, because I'm out of the initial 12 month term and on a rolling contract I also requested a new agreement from the agent with my wifes name on it and forward date. They were happy to do this for the fee - £60 - with the caveat that neither I or her could sign it until we presented at the office with her Visa and BRP. I sent this off as part of the applicaiton for Accommodation appendix. They do not break the law by issuing a draft contract or Letter of no objection, only by allowing you both to sign the contract without the proper evidence being presented.

Perhaps you could ask for this as well as Vinny's advice on the language of the letter.

For information, I only applied in April (priority) for my wifes Visa and am still waiting on a decision.
I'm not an expert and only answer from my personal experience and understanding of the rules. Spouse Settlement Visa Granted for my wife July 2017. You should not take my advice as absolute.

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:32 am

tell your Lanlord send right to rent request to home office link below and you need to give your landlord to your HO ref and your current address and home office will reply within 2 working days and hopefully you will get right to rent

https://eforms.homeoffice.gov.uk/outrea ... ation.ofml

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by minhas23 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:42 am

Hi
ive faced the same problem my partner had a pvt housing property i wanted to move in with her but Housing didnt allowed they sent my ho ref number ( i was asylym seeker) that time and they didnt allowed coz of i had no right to rent they clearly said neither rent or move he cant. its just the law now but if you rent a house from a pvt landlord they might provide letter

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:23 pm

hi mihas

as asylum seeker you have right to rent you can give your HO ref Or ARC no to agent or Landlord and your current address and tell them to check your rigt to rent below link and you will get right rent at least 12 months and i am also asylum seeker and got right rent for 12 months times and after 12 months landlord need recheck right rent and home office taking only 2 working days

https://eforms.homeoffice.gov.uk/outrea ... ation.ofml

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:26 pm

if you are failed asylum seeker then first made fresh asylum application for time being and then request your landlord to check right to rent

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:28 pm

minhas23 wrote:Hi
ive faced the same problem my partner had a pvt housing property i wanted to move in with her but Housing didnt allowed they sent my ho ref number ( i was asylym seeker) that time and they didnt allowed coz of i had no right to rent they clearly said neither rent or move he cant. its just the law now but if you rent a house from a pvt landlord they might provide letter
send me private email and i will give you trick how to get right to rent

cheers

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:15 am

munirabid wrote:
minhas23 wrote:Hi
ive faced the same problem my partner had a pvt housing property i wanted to move in with her but Housing didnt allowed they sent my ho ref number ( i was asylym seeker) that time and they didnt allowed coz of i had no right to rent they clearly said neither rent or move he cant. its just the law now but if you rent a house from a pvt landlord they might provide letter
send me private email and i will give you trick how to get right to rent

cheers
Post in public so all may benefit. If you cannot post such information on the public forum, then it is either dodgy or illegal or a circumvention of the rules. A person without legal status does not have the right to rent.

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:30 pm

who told you those made asylum don't have right rent and if any body made any immigration application .Home office give at least 12 months right to rent in simple Yes respone

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:35 pm

open link below and tell your Lanlord check right to rent and you need to give your Ho ref or ARC card no to your agent or Landlord and you current address so sit with you agent tell him to check front of you and HO will response within 2 working day with Yes or No response

https://eforms.homeoffice.gov.uk/outrea ... ation.ofml

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:53 pm

Still doesn't guarantee a landlord (they have the right to refuse) will allow the person with a pending application to rent or join an existing tenancy.
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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by seagul » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:22 pm

A lot of private landlords themselves facing visa issues and don't want to contact HO rather prefer those tenants who have straight forward rent to rent. I practically seen these cases. In my opinion whenver taking accomodation for spouse visa purposes then always inform beforehand to landlords as what might be needed later on. In my opinion even the visa is in process then still landlord should give the permission to live to the sponsor's partner by highlighting a condition that only incase of successful grant of visa.
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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:28 pm

seagul wrote:A lot of private landlords themselves facing visa issues and don't want to contact HO rather prefer those tenants who have straight forward rent to rent. I practically seen these cases. In my opinion whenver taking accomodation for spouse visa purposes then always inform beforehand to landlords as what might be needed later on. In my opinion even the visa is in process then still landlord should give the permission to live to the sponsor's partner by highlighting a condition that only incase of successful grant of visa.
You are right that such a condition covers both parties. On the landlord forum I belong to, this question comes up so often. Landlords reluctant to rent to visa applicants who are either applying from outside the UK or are in the process of extension or who only have say 4 months left. The argument is that there is no guarantee they will get another visa and then the landlord incurs enormous costs to evict and possibly face fines.

An EU friend of mine moved over to the UK from South Africa and had to pay 1 years rent upfront.
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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:33 pm

but if someone made immigration application and he will normally get 12 months right to rent and Landlord need re check after 12 months times and if Landlord deny to let the property if person got permission right to rent from HO, then its totally discrimination.

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:37 pm

munirabid wrote:but if someone made immigration application and he will normally get 12 months right to rent and Landlord need re check after 12 months times and if Landlord deny to let the property if person got permission right to rent from HO, then its totally discrimination.
No it isn't, it is called protecting their investment/income. A landlord is free to choose their tenants.

The user you are responding to is already in HO NASS accommodation and receiving handouts while waiting for the outcome of his second application. The user is also waiting for the birth of a child to file an FLR(FP) application, girlfriend lives in a housing association and they have said no to him living there.
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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by munirabid » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:24 pm

then this person need to withdrew the NASS support and then he will able to get right to rent in private property . AS i was in NASS suport for 5 years and I withdrew the NASS support last year and after that My Landlord check right to rent on HO website and he got YES response 12 months right to rent permission from HO. and now he again checked and HO didn't put any restriction in YES response. as i made fresh application on asylum recently and plus my child spend more than 7 years in UK

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Re: Right to Rent rules and Spouse Visa

Post by seagul » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:36 pm

I seen a lot of landlords who trapped due to the immigration and personal cicumstances of its residents like HO raids, police raids, TV licence inquiry, random council checks, bailliff visits etc. That's why a lot of landlords/estate agents feel fears and prefer to keep known residents/residents with strong reference but I think it's also depends on the area as well. Some areas the landlords can't find easily the tenants so they may be lenient and vice versa. But it's always best to take such accomodation where landlord is primarily informed and agreed on the purpose to avoid subsequent inconveniences.
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