Foreign Birth Registration?

[Bluey105]

is there anyone on here who applied for their children? Like months old? How long is the process? And since my baby doesnt have any identification yet. Is it just me and my husband who needs to present? And the billing address too? I am confused. As my baby is just 2 months old.

You'd need to present your child's birth certificate and your documents and the grandparent's Irish docs.

[caferacer]

Bluey , what do you mean "populate" it?

[Bluey105]

Bluey , what do you mean "populate" it?

Fills it in for you. From what I remember it creates a PDF for you to download and send in with your application.

[bluemoon2]

Hi , just wondering when you guys here in FBR thread contact dfa about status of your application , do you use dfa website inquiry facility to contact them or do you send them direct email using their email address ? I sent them email at this address, fbr.consular@dfa.ie , three weeks ago but didn,t get any reply so I am thinking they might not reply as I didn,t use dfa website inquiry facility to send them email .
The reason I am loosing my patience now is I applied for FBR of my 1 year old daughter 10 months ago in January 2017 , We were asked to provide further documents twice which we sent them straight away but since then never heard anything from them , I can see here many people are getting approved in 6 months but we are still waiting even after 10 months.
Any help would be much appreciated .

[IrishGem]

Hi Folks,

I've printed my FB1A form and just had it witnessed. So far, so good.

The question I have is about proof of residence documents. Are original documents required or are internet print-outs of PDF documents sufficient?

The guidance suggests utility bills, bank statements and council tax bills are all good. However, with many landlords including bills and council tax in the rent, and with many utility bills and bank accounts being online and paperless, it is not easy to find 3 original documents. Also, do they need to be dated in the last 6 months?

What are other peoples' experiences of what they have had accepted/declined?

So far, I have originals of: a recent letter (but not a bill) from my previous broadband and phone supplier, a recent letter (again, not a bill) from my new broadband and phone supplier and a recent statement from NS&I Premium Bonds (a financial institution but not a bank).

Best wishes,
Gem

[Bluey105]

Hi Folks,

I've printed my FB1A form and just had it witnessed. So far, so good.

The question I have is about proof of residence documents. Are original documents required or are internet print-outs of PDF documents sufficient?

The guidance suggests utility bills, bank statements and council tax bills are all good. However, with many landlords including bills and council tax in the rent, and with many utility bills and bank accounts being online and paperless, it is not easy to find 3 original documents. Also, do they need to be dated in the last 6 months?

What are other peoples' experiences of what they have had accepted/declined?

So far, I have originals of: a recent letter (but not a bill) from my previous broadband and phone supplier, a recent letter (again, not a bill) from my new broadband and phone supplier and a recent statement from NS&I Premium Bonds (a financial institution but not a bank).

Best wishes,
Gem

Hi Gem

I think they should be fine. Do you have a council tax bill you could send as well? You need to include both the originals and copies.

[caferacer]

Thx Bluey...Just waiting on my Mums PP certified the correct way from Oz, then i good to go....One thing I dont need, which Mum has found is Grandads old Irish PP...so for the sake of overkill, im going to include this also.

Gem, Im the same boat as you...I rent a place and all is inclusive,incl council tax... I have HMRC letters , my lease, bank, library and doctors letters, which all show my address....Ive been told to include a brief letter of explanation too, as to effect why I cant provide, but am providing alternatives.

Ive labeled all my original docs, and all is organised....with regard to the address stuff, they may be a little flexible, BUT not with the documents, from reading this and other forums, you need to follow the document side of things by the letter...Hope this helps

[Bluey105]

Thx Bluey...Just waiting on my Mums PP certified the correct way from Oz, then i good to go....One thing I dont need, which Mum has found is Grandads old Irish PP...so for the sake of overkill, im going to include this also.

Gem, Im the same boat as you...I rent a place and all is inclusive,incl council tax... I have HMRC letters , my lease, bank, library and doctors letters, which all show my address....Ive been told to include a brief letter of explanation too, as to effect why I cant provide, but am providing alternatives.

Ive labeled all my original docs, and all is organised....with regard to the address stuff, they may be a little flexible, BUT not with the documents, from reading this and other forums, you need to follow the document side of things by the letter...Hope this helps

Sounds good, I would include that as well, the more the better I think! You're right about having to following the document side of things by the letter as well.

Good luck.

[IrishGem]

Thanks Bluey105 and caferacer,

I think I should be OK Bluey, but my sister may struggle to get 3 of the specified docs if internet printouts are not acceptable. We live at different addresses and she has the council tax bill in her name, so that's one of three. We are also applying in the same envelope as we obviously have documents in common and it will mean we both get registered in c. 6 months. And yes, I'll be enclosing photocopies of all documents, be they proof of address bills/letter or birth/marriage/death certificates. One question though, do we need to include a photocopy of the certified photocopy of our passport ID page?

Accommodation contract, HMRC letters and Doctor's letters sound good, caferacer. I also have the letter which my UK Driving Licence came back with when I changed address and it is recent. I've also labelled all my docs as to what they are, so hopefully the official can tick off what they receive quickly.

I'd love to know what else works other than the recommended documents. The guidance ends in 'etc.' so what is and what isn't acceptable, I'm not sure.

Best wishes,
Gem

[IrishGem]

Bluey , what do you mean "populate" it?

Fills it in for you. From what I remember it creates a PDF for you to download and send in with your application.

Hi Folks,

This is correct, I did this to the point of paying up over the weekend, and I'm happy to take questions on it. The application is both electronic and postal. Once you fill in the last tab and click submit, the website will render a complete but interim PDF of your application form, FB1A. You can then check that all details are correct, if not, they can still be changed at this point. Once you click on the final submit, it is then in the system and you get an application number. At this point, the details cannot be changed.

You still need to print the document and post it as it is a legal doc that needs to be signed in the presence of a witness (who also needs to sign it).

Cheers,
Gem

[IrishGem]

Oh, and the top-right corner of the FB1A form has the address to which you need to send the application.

[obstacle111]

Hi guys.

I am currently gathering my information/evidence for FBR. I am a UK citizen.

I have a number of concerns.

My Irish born grandfather vanished in 1966 and was never seen or heard from again. He was born in 1915 in Donegal. I successfully applied for a copy of his birth certificate a few weeks ago. I also have the marriage certificate between him and my grandmother (they were married in England). And my father's birth certificate.

I was worried about my inability to provide either his death certificate or ID. However I FINALLY heard back from the London Embassy lately who advised I can submit an affidavit to confirm the reason I can supply neither of these.

"Great!" I thought. However, I am hitting a stumbling block with the details it needs for my father, specifically:

Certified/Notarized copy of the photograph page of current passport or state issued identity document (e.g. Driver's Licence) or original Death Certificate if deceased (plus photocopy)

My dad has a paper driving licence and has never had a passport. As such, he literally has no forms of photographic ID. Nor does he have any desire to get one (don't even ask). Is there anyway around this? Also, even IF he could, what does it mean to be 'certified'?.

I am also worried that my grandfathers middle name only seems to crop up on his marriage certificate, not his birth cert.

Finally, I am due t move to Australia in August 2018. I know my application will not be finalised for a while and unlikely to be finished before then, so could I put a SAE with my parent's address inside for the return of my documents? My current address(and the utility bills etc I provide to confirm this) will obviously be ineffective as of the time I move away.

Any help great appreciated!

[pixie1230]

is there anyone on here who applied for their children? Like months old? How long is the process? And since my baby doesnt have any identification yet. Is it just me and my husband who needs to present? And the billing address too? I am confused. As my baby is just 2 months old.

You'd need to present your child's birth certificate and your documents and the grandparent's Irish docs.

Thanks! But why do some people needs to present proof of pregnancy? Or some needs to inform them before they give birth? I dont understand that.

[pixie1230]

Hi , just wondering when you guys here in FBR thread contact dfa about status of your application , do you use dfa website inquiry facility to contact them or do you send them direct email using their email address ? I sent them email at this address, fbr.consular@dfa.ie , three weeks ago but didn,t get any reply so I am thinking they might not reply as I didn,t use dfa website inquiry facility to send them email .
The reason I am loosing my patience now is I applied for FBR of my 1 year old daughter 10 months ago in January 2017 , We were asked to provide further documents twice which we sent them straight away but since then never heard anything from them , I can see here many people are getting approved in 6 months but we are still waiting even after 10 months.
Any help would be much appreciated .

I am on the same boat. I am applying for FBR for my 3 month old daughter to get here in Ireland. What further documents were u asked to send? And i dunno why its taking so long...

[IrishGem]

Hi guys.

I am currently gathering my information/evidence for FBR. I am a UK citizen.

I have a number of concerns.

My Irish born grandfather vanished in 1966 and was never seen or heard from again. He was born in 1915 in Donegal. I successfully applied for a copy of his birth certificate a few weeks ago. I also have the marriage certificate between him and my grandmother (they were married in England). And my father's birth certificate.

I was worried about my inability to provide either his death certificate or ID. However I FINALLY heard back from the London Embassy lately who advised I can submit an affidavit to confirm the reason I can supply neither of these.

"Great!" I thought. However, I am hitting a stumbling block with the details it needs for my father, specifically:

Certified/Notarized copy of the photograph page of current passport or state issued identity document (e.g. Driver's Licence) or original Death Certificate if deceased (plus photocopy)

My dad has a paper driving licence and has never had a passport. As such, he literally has no forms of photographic ID. Nor does he have any desire to get one (don't even ask). Is there anyway around this? Also, even IF he could, what does it mean to be 'certified'?.

I am also worried that my grandfathers middle name only seems to crop up on his marriage certificate, not his birth cert.

Finally, I am due t move to Australia in August 2018. I know my application will not be finalised for a while and unlikely to be finished before then, so could I put a SAE with my parent's address inside for the return of my documents? My current address(and the utility bills etc I provide to confirm this) will obviously be ineffective as of the time I move away.

Any help great appreciated!

Hi obstacle111,

For the passport Certification/Notarisation: Notarisation is performed by a notary (usually a member of a legal profession), they validate signatures and authenticity of documents. Certification is done by an officer of a trusted organisation who certifies (in this case) that a document is a true copy of an original. You can get photocopies of passport ID pages certified at most UK Post Offices, see: https://www.postoffice.co.uk/document-c ... on-service, print out and fill in the form, the cost is about 10 quid for up to three documents.

As for your Grandfather, can you search for a death certificate under his name? Try Irish and British records. You should mention in a covering letter the absence of a middle name on his birth cert.

I appreciate that working with your Dad on his passport sounds like a challenge, but try explaining why you want to do the Irish FBR, the impact his reluctance to get a passport will have on you and offer to help with his application (like collecting info for it and paying for it). Does he have any desire to visit you in Oz?

Best wishes and best of luck,
Gem

[obstacle111]

Hi guys.

I am currently gathering my information/evidence for FBR. I am a UK citizen.

I have a number of concerns.

My Irish born grandfather vanished in 1966 and was never seen or heard from again. He was born in 1915 in Donegal. I successfully applied for a copy of his birth certificate a few weeks ago. I also have the marriage certificate between him and my grandmother (they were married in England). And my father's birth certificate.

I was worried about my inability to provide either his death certificate or ID. However I FINALLY heard back from the London Embassy lately who advised I can submit an affidavit to confirm the reason I can supply neither of these.

"Great!" I thought. However, I am hitting a stumbling block with the details it needs for my father, specifically:

Certified/Notarized copy of the photograph page of current passport or state issued identity document (e.g. Driver's Licence) or original Death Certificate if deceased (plus photocopy)

My dad has a paper driving licence and has never had a passport. As such, he literally has no forms of photographic ID. Nor does he have any desire to get one (don't even ask). Is there anyway around this? Also, even IF he could, what does it mean to be 'certified'?.

I am also worried that my grandfathers middle name only seems to crop up on his marriage certificate, not his birth cert.

Finally, I am due t move to Australia in August 2018. I know my application will not be finalised for a while and unlikely to be finished before then, so could I put a SAE with my parent's address inside for the return of my documents? My current address(and the utility bills etc I provide to confirm this) will obviously be ineffective as of the time I move away.

Any help great appreciated!

Hi obstacle111,

For the passport Certification/Notarisation: Notarisation is performed by a notary (usually a member of a legal profession), they validate signatures and authenticity of documents. Certification is done by an officer of a trusted organisation who certifies (in this case) that a document is a true copy of an original. You can get photocopies of passport ID pages certified at most UK Post Offices, see: https://www.postoffice.co.uk/document-c ... on-service, print out and fill in the form, the cost is about 10 quid for up to three documents.

As for your Grandfather, can you search for a death certificate under his name? Try Irish and British records. You should mention in a covering letter the absence of a middle name on his birth cert.

I appreciate that working with your Dad on his passport sounds like a challenge, but try explaining why you want to do the Irish FBR, the impact his reluctance to get a passport will have on you and offer to help with his application (like collecting info for it and paying for it). Does he have any desire to visit you in Oz?

Best wishes and best of luck,
Gem

Thanks Gem.

My grandfather does not have a death registered anywhere. There was reason to believe he was possibly murdered back in 1966 but no body has ever been recovered sadly. It is simply a mystery as to what happened to him, and my dad/aunt have no interest now in trying to obtain a presumed death certificate as they were children when he vanished.

My dad wouldn't travel to Oz in a million years! He's just one of 'those' kinda people. No bank card, no ID, paper driving licence...hes a nightmare!

So as for the certification, I am assuming this is different to the 'witness' - or can they do it all at once?

[caferacer]

To the chap/ess above, having trouble with docs....Its tough!, i think we have all had some trouble with one or two along the way, so there is no easy answer, no magic wand to say ."yeah im sure all will be OK", because, with the ammount of applications underway, it wont be, you have to exhaust every resource open to you, before they would even consider,an explanation from you, sorry its not what you want to hear...but keep trying

[Jezabel]

Has anybody here had any experience with this issue?
I applied for my Grandmother's birth certificate - she was born in the Rotunda in Dublin - giving her name, date of birth and parent's names, and I duly received a full length certificate, but there is no name on it, only the name of her parents, so presumably she hadn't been named at that point...

I wonder is this likely to be a problem?

[Bluey105]

is there anyone on here who applied for their children? Like months old? How long is the process? And since my baby doesnt have any identification yet. Is it just me and my husband who needs to present? And the billing address too? I am confused. As my baby is just 2 months old.

You'd need to present your child's birth certificate and your documents and the grandparent's Irish docs.

Thanks! But why do some people needs to present proof of pregnancy? Or some needs to inform them before they give birth? I dont understand that.

These people were applying to put themselves on the FBR before the birth of their child so that they could pass citizenship onto them. They had to show proof of pregnancy so that they themselves were registered before the birth so they coup pass it on.

I presume that you have an Irish parent?

[pixie1230]

is there anyone on here who applied for their children? Like months old? How long is the process? And since my baby doesnt have any identification yet. Is it just me and my husband who needs to present? And the billing address too? I am confused. As my baby is just 2 months old.

You'd need to present your child's birth certificate and your documents and the grandparent's Irish docs.

Thanks! But why do some people needs to present proof of pregnancy? Or some needs to inform them before they give birth? I dont understand that.

These people were applying to put themselves on the FBR before the birth of their child so that they could pass citizenship onto them. They had to show proof of pregnancy so that they themselves were registered before the birth so they coup pass it on.

I presume that you have an Irish parent?

Nope. My husband is irish by descent(His father was born and raise in ireland) and i got my citizenship through naturalisation because of being a spouse of an irish.
So I am kinda confuse too if i still need to apply for an fbr for my baby, who I left in my home country because she doesnt have any passport or visa yet and we have to go back here in Ireland because of our work.
Can you please enlighten me. As i check online it seems like i need to apply for an fbr for my baby. On the other hand my husband was born and raise outside ireland but he just easily got his irish passport and didnt go through applying an fbr or whatsoever.

[Bluey105]

You'd need to present your child's birth certificate and your documents and the grandparent's Irish docs.

Thanks! But why do some people needs to present proof of pregnancy? Or some needs to inform them before they give birth? I dont understand that.

These people were applying to put themselves on the FBR before the birth of their child so that they could pass citizenship onto them. They had to show proof of pregnancy so that they themselves were registered before the birth so they coup pass it on.

I presume that you have an Irish parent?

Nope. My husband is irish by descent(His father was born and raise in ireland) and i got my citizenship through naturalisation because of being a spouse of an irish.
So I am kinda confuse too if i still need to apply for an fbr for my baby, who I left in my home country because she doesnt have any passport or visa yet and we have to go back here in Ireland because of our work.
Can you please enlighten me. As i check online it seems like i need to apply for an fbr for my baby. On the other hand my husband was born and raise outside ireland but he just easily got his irish passport and didnt go through applying an fbr or whatsoever.

It sounds like you'd need to apply for your baby to be put onto the FBR.

[pixie1230]

Thanks! But why do some people needs to present proof of pregnancy? Or some needs to inform them before they give birth? I dont understand that.

These people were applying to put themselves on the FBR before the birth of their child so that they could pass citizenship onto them. They had to show proof of pregnancy so that they themselves were registered before the birth so they coup pass it on.

I presume that you have an Irish parent?

Nope. My husband is irish by descent(His father was born and raise in ireland) and i got my citizenship through naturalisation because of being a spouse of an irish.
So I am kinda confuse too if i still need to apply for an fbr for my baby, who I left in my home country because she doesnt have any passport or visa yet and we have to go back here in Ireland because of our work.
Can you please enlighten me. As i check online it seems like i need to apply for an fbr for my baby. On the other hand my husband was born and raise outside ireland but he just easily got his irish passport and didnt go through applying an fbr or whatsoever.

It sounds like you'd need to apply for your baby to be put onto the FBR.

You’re an angel! Thanks for clarifying everything. Usually how long is the processing for an infant?(if requirements are correct and complete)
We just want our baby to be here already as i can’t stop thinking about how she is everyday.
Thanks again in advance!!

[Bluey105]

These people were applying to put themselves on the FBR before the birth of their child so that they could pass citizenship onto them. They had to show proof of pregnancy so that they themselves were registered before the birth so they coup pass it on.

I presume that you have an Irish parent?

Nope. My husband is irish by descent(His father was born and raise in ireland) and i got my citizenship through naturalisation because of being a spouse of an irish.
So I am kinda confuse too if i still need to apply for an fbr for my baby, who I left in my home country because she doesnt have any passport or visa yet and we have to go back here in Ireland because of our work.
Can you please enlighten me. As i check online it seems like i need to apply for an fbr for my baby. On the other hand my husband was born and raise outside ireland but he just easily got his irish passport and didnt go through applying an fbr or whatsoever.

It sounds like you'd need to apply for your baby to be put onto the FBR.

You’re an angel! Thanks for clarifying everything. Usually how long is the processing for an infant?(if requirements are correct and complete)
We just want our baby to be here already as i can’t stop thinking about how she is everyday.
Thanks again in advance!!

Where would you be applying from? It would likely take anywhere between 4-8 months depending where you are applying from. My own one took just under 5 months.

[pixie1230]

Nope. My husband is irish by descent(His father was born and raise in ireland) and i got my citizenship through naturalisation because of being a spouse of an irish.
So I am kinda confuse too if i still need to apply for an fbr for my baby, who I left in my home country because she doesnt have any passport or visa yet and we have to go back here in Ireland because of our work.
Can you please enlighten me. As i check online it seems like i need to apply for an fbr for my baby. On the other hand my husband was born and raise outside ireland but he just easily got his irish passport and didnt go through applying an fbr or whatsoever.

It sounds like you'd need to apply for your baby to be put onto the FBR.

You’re an angel! Thanks for clarifying everything. Usually how long is the processing for an infant?(if requirements are correct and complete)
We just want our baby to be here already as i can’t stop thinking about how she is everyday.
Thanks again in advance!!

Where would you be applying from? It would likely take anywhere between 4-8 months depending where you are applying from. My own one took just under 5 months.

Hello, were in Ireland so were going to apply it here directly. Pay and fill out everything online, and post them the documents from here. We have the documents complete including the birth certificate of our Child as i requested it in my home country right away before i flew back home in Ireland. I just hope and pray that it will be quick. As its really hard to be away from a baby. Do you think it will be quicker? Thanks again!

[Bluey105]

It sounds like you'd need to apply for your baby to be put onto the FBR.

You’re an angel! Thanks for clarifying everything. Usually how long is the processing for an infant?(if requirements are correct and complete)
We just want our baby to be here already as i can’t stop thinking about how she is everyday.
Thanks again in advance!!

Where would you be applying from? It would likely take anywhere between 4-8 months depending where you are applying from. My own one took just under 5 months.

Hello, were in Ireland so were going to apply it here directly. Pay and fill out everything online, and post them the documents from here. We have the documents complete including the birth certificate of our Child as i requested it in my home country right away before i flew back home in Ireland. I just hope and pray that it will be quick. As its really hard to be away from a baby. Do you think it will be quicker? Thanks again!

I'm afraid I can't really say, it will depend how busy they are I guess. I'd say you're probably looking at least 3 months. Perhaps it'd be worth speaking to them and explaining the situation.