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The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Tue May 30, 2017 11:46 am

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affe

Post by kaffuk » Wed May 31, 2017 12:02 am

Thanks Vinny.
Just read this. Shocking..... :(

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by secret.simon » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:44 am

UK banks to check 70m bank accounts in search for illegal immigrants
Banks have been told to adopt a default position of telling customers to take up the matter with the Home Office if a mistake has been made, even if they provide a passport or biometric residence permit showing they are lawfully present in Britain.
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Banks have also been told there is no requirement on them to contact account holders or require additional documentary evidence as part of the check.
NHS letter demands eight-day-old baby provide identity documents to prove right to free healthcare
Erroneous letter from NHS trust states baby born in UK to British parents may need to pay for treatment because she is not 'ordinarily resident' in country
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It comes after a memorandum of understanding was published in January stating that NHS digital was required to share patient information with the Home Office. According to the Department of Health, the Home Office made 8,127 requests for data in the first 11 months of 2016. This led to 5,854 people being traced by immigration enforcement teams.
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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by JAJ » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:05 am

It would be interesting to know how many British citizens are effectively forced to have passports as de-facto ID documents and also how many British citizens have been denied U.K.-based services due to lack of a (British) passport.
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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:26 am

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:52 am

Hostile environment backfiring on the Home Office, Chief Inspector finds > Report
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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:57 am

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:45 am

British citizen wrongly denied passport and ordered to leave UK:
It’s good to talk

The Home Office normally retains significant documents – such as tribunal determinations – on an individual’s file. However, as it was not disclosed in evidence to the court we must assume that, for whatever reason, it was not retained in this case.

Whilst sloppy filing is regrettable, it is serious matter of concern that in the three years the application was outstanding, the Home Office did not seek to obtain the determination from HM Courts & Tribunals Service. The court observed that:

Miah, R (on the application of) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2017] EWHC 2925 (Admin) (17 November 2017) :
… it is very unfortunate that SSHD was apparently unaware of the existence of the Tribunal Determination, despite the decision maker in this case having access to Home Office files and databases with information about Mr Miah’s immigration history. It seems that Home Office files and databases were either incomplete, or were inadequately examined, or that there are broader failures of communication between the various limbs of Government such as HM Courts & Tribunal Service, the Foreign & Commonwealth Office and the Home Office.
Information sharing between government departments for immigration purposes is all the rage, but only, it seems, where such information sharing would work against an applicant in any given case.

The court held: Miah, R (on the application of) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2017] EWHC 2925 (Admin) (17 November 2017) :
The consequence is that Mr Miah's passport application has now been outstanding for over six years; his Bangladeshi passport has presumably been in the hands of the authorities during the whole of that period and therefore unavailable to him; and through no fault or wrongdoing on Mr Miah's part, the threat of removal has been hanging over him and his family for over three years. This is highly regrettable.
Home Office MOU to access NHS records
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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:18 pm

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:36 am

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:25 am

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:48 am

rooibos wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:23 am
Is the system not ready because of purely technical and administrative issues, or is this a deliberate choice to keep people on the grill, so they will leave? At the end of the day, it IS working! Immigration from the EU is slowing down. That's what Theresa May always wanted with her hostile environnment.
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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:08 pm

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by bathanza » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:23 pm


Husband's timeline - overstayer 11 yrs
08/16 - FLR (FP) Partner, refused 02/18, 03/18 - JR permission refused with merit
08/18 - FLR FP (Partner) PSC - Approved
07/20 - FLR FP to FLR M Switch - Approved, 03/23 FLR M Ext Approved.

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:23 pm

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:24 pm

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by ahmedrana21 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:53 pm

hi there my wife is not well she is haemorrhagic patient and partially paralysed since 2014. She also gave birth to baby in September 2017 but today on 17th march 2018 i got post from NHS quoting reference number and bill inside for getting treatment here in uk since 2014 and it costs around 15 thousands pounds. It is mentioned on bill if i do not pay i will not get further immigration status in uk and all my information will be passed to Home Office.
Is there any solution to it? I was never even told by anyone about these charges. I do not work even, me and my wife applied for extended family member visa our case is under reconsideration in HO.we both do not have work permission.so how can we pay?
Please reply me i shall be very thankful.

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:27 pm

ahmedrana21, please continue in previous topic.
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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:51 am

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Post by vinny » Tue May 01, 2018 2:38 pm

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Sun May 06, 2018 2:40 am

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Tue May 29, 2018 12:55 pm

Woman denied return of passport 3 times, then unlawfully detained for failure to leave UK.
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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by Mojojojo00 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:22 am

For how long is this hostile policy going to continue in your opinion, vinny? :p

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Re: The hostile environment: what is it and who does it affect?

Post by vinny » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:00 am

Who knows?

Is May's 'Hostile Environment Reminiscent Of Nazi Germany?

The Home Office's abuse of 322(5) is another example.
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