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Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:03 am

Hi ALL,

please please need help! this payment declined happened to someone close and still within the 28 days period, but they said to re apply as new application but worry is how about the work? can she work? this is her last extension and after almost 6 months this happpened and we are really lost!! enough fund was there but for whatever reason it didnt go thru!! If new application and again wait and cant work, will be huge problem!! please please someone gives me some advise!

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Re: Payment declined

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:38 am

Tailongwan wrote:
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please please need help! this payment declined happened to someone close and still within the 28 days period, but they said to re apply as new application but worry is how about the work? can she work? this is her last extension and after almost 6 months this happpened and we are really lost!! enough fund was there but for whatever reason it didnt go thru!! If new application and again wait and cant work, will be huge problem!! please please someone gives me some advise!
What application has been made?

You have tagged your question onto a topic in the British citizenship applications sub forum.
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Re: Payment declined

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:47 am

Hi, i believe there will be requests made to the HO that this was out of her control and specially there was fund so whole thing is totally disturbing! My question is can she get the permission to work while decision being taken or you think they will approve it once the confusion is cleared. SHe is thinking of visiting there in person to discuss the matter. thanks so so much for replying..

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Re: Payment declined

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:49 am

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Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:47 am
Hi, i believe there will be requests made to the HO that this was out of her control and specially there was fund so whole thing is totally disturbing! My question is can she get the permission to work while decision being taken or you think they will approve it once the confusion is cleared. SHe is thinking of visiting there in person to discuss the matter. thanks so so much for replying..
Can you please answer the question I have asked you. You cannot simply tag onto any topic in any sub forum.
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:03 am
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please please need help! this payment declined happened to someone close and still within the 28 days period, but they said to re apply as new application but worry is how about the work? can she work? this is her last extension and after almost 6 months this happpened and we are really lost!! enough fund was there but for whatever reason it didnt go thru!! If new application and again wait and cant work, will be huge problem!! please please someone gives me some advise!
What application has been made?

You have tagged your question onto a topic in the British citizenship applications sub forum.
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Re: Payment declined

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:52 am

Very sorry, I googled Payment Declined and whatever forrum I got, posted on! sincere apologies, you can guess bit stressed. SHould I change the forum? what do you mean by what application exactly, again please accept my apolgies.

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Re: Payment declined

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:54 am

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Very sorry, I googled Payment Declined and whatever forrum I got, posted on! sincere apologies, you can guess bit stressed. SHould I change the forum? what do you mean by what application exactly, again please accept my apolgies.
What visa application for a visa or extension has been made? What form was completed??
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Re: Payment declined

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:55 am

This is on Assylum visa but last extension as far as I know. I am trying to help her with mental comfort while the lawyer tries to solve.

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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:58 am

I have split and moved your posts to the 'General Immigration' sub forum, where it is now.
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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:59 am

My question is can she get the permission to work while decision being taken or you think they will approve it once the confusion is cleared.
Did she notify her bank of the transaction that will be done?
SHe is thinking of visiting there in person to discuss the matter.
She won't be able to do this. HO does not have 'walk in centres' where applicants can 'visit' to 'discuss the matter'.
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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:06 am

Funny thing is same day other payments (smaller amounts of course) went thru but this one failed! SHe is a health professional and very much in need at her workplace!

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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:08 am

Sorry, no bank was not notified because this shouldnt have failed! the day also shows enough funds! I see may posts with this situation and I wonder what are her options In terms of continuing work, she is a well respected health professional!

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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:12 am

It is often the bank fraud detection service that blocks payment. Has she thought to contact her bank to ask if the payment was attempted?
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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:16 am

Yes, she did and to be honest this affects her personal life in a great way and I am working on surface info here,not able to get more but I am sure she found out it was attempted because she confirmed another payment went thru same day. I guess i am trying to comfort myself too cause I am affected in a huge way! I can tell this she tried to cal up HO to pay by phone but they said can not accept! It just stops her really mportant research work at university and huge pause if God forbids re apply (falls behind the q) and another 3 to 6 months.

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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:27 am

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It is often the bank fraud detection service that blocks payment. Has she thought to contact her bank to ask if the payment was attempted?
Actually, she is planning to go to HO to pay, is it possible? but they already cancelled the full application based on payment decline being only cause and she is within the 28 days time frame.

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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:32 am

she is planning to go to HO to pay, is it possible?
No, it is not.
but they already cancelled the full application based on payment decline being only cause and she is within the 28 days time frame.
Has HO sent her application back as invalid? Your post is not very clear. HO would usually send a letter asking for updated or alternative payment details.

Perhaps your 'friend' should register on the forum herself and ask her own questions.
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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:09 am

I understand and apologies for my repeated questions. In general is the work right affected though?
Yes, application is returned being invalid due to non payment and asked to fresh apply.

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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:16 am

When was it returned as invalid?

Did she not receive a letter from HO asking for updated payment details?

Your reference to '28 days' is also no longer valid. The 'grace period' of 28 days was reduced to 14 days last year.
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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:34 am

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When was it returned as invalid?

Did she not receive a letter from HO asking for updated payment details?

Your reference to '28 days' is also no longer valid. The 'grace period' of 28 days was reduced to 14 days last year.
Hi, thanks a lot! yes, she was given time to pay and new details were requested which was provided also within the time frame and when HO tried to put thru the payment request for the 2nd time, it failed again though enough fund was there. And I think what happened is such a unique situation nobody thinks that we need to inform bank to let our OWN fund out, and this is where the ball was dropped. Now asked to reapply and she stopped working. She is reapplying in less than a week (you are right it is 14 days now), what are the chances of this turning around anytime soon? any miracle can be expected?

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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by CR001 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:27 am

It is not a 'unique' situation. She should have contacted her bank as soon as she knew there was a problem.

No one can say how long this will take.
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Re: Payment declined - Asylum application

Post by Tailongwan » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:44 am

Hi, thanks a lot for your assistance! yes, we understand the unfortunate event that took place. My question is has anyone encountered the same? I mean she has applied yesterday new application with reason for past being payment error. Any experience with the same and if so, what was the outcome after application?

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Payment Declined_application returned_reapplied_Assylum

Post by tintin_2018 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:09 am

Hi all,
Needing some serious support here and if I posted in wrong area, apologies!
HO tried to take my partners payment for visa extension and it failed twice (of course no explanation why, since money was there). After 5 months (since applied) Application returned and asked to reapply which we did (within 14 days) (biom done again) and it is now 2.5 months since reapplication. We just received the Acknowledgement (in the first week I think) .Technically he is overstayed and hence he stopped working voluntarily. Therefore the work area (specialized and highly skilled profession) is badly affected specially being in a controversial field like health industry and you can imagine adverse effect financially and emotionally.
It seems HO has treated his application as if a brand new, which is not the case!
I saw many posts with similar payment declined issues. My question is if any one gone thru it and if so how long it took after reapplication? Please, it will put us in great mental peace if you can spare some time or even shed some light into it.
Thanks in advance and please keep us in your prayers!

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Re: Payment Declined_application returned_reapplied_Assylum

Post by CR001 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:21 am

I have merged the topics with the posts under username member/Tailongwan/
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Re: Payment Declined_application returned_reapplied_Assylum

Post by tintin_2018 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:24 am

Really appreciated! hopefully I get some help here as usual!

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DLR extension_payment failed_App returned_reapplied

Post by tintin_2018 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:57 am

Hi All,

thanks for all cooperation so far. I have posted lots of question earlier but as I did not have complete pic was a bit in the air. I apologise to have wasted some time of all.

This is the situation with help of high profiled lawyer:

1. DLR granted in 2014 on the basis of few things one of them is also building a successful medical career in the UK, situation remained unchanged as of now and profession wise improved significantly

2. Extension for renewal was up in July 2017, applied on time and payment was processed by HO that failed in December 2017 and Jan 2018 (by Bank fraud protection dept)

3. Application returned in early Jan 2018 saying to reapply and given 14 days and reapplied and redone the Biom, also acknowledgement received in mid Jan 2018

4. it has been 2 months

5. other info- applicant stayed in the UK as a Medical student and then a specialist with NHS (20 yrs in 2019). She never applied ILR because well, lets just say never thought of immigration can be important! (thats a whole different thought process without any excuse)

Anyone faced similar and if so, can you shed any light please? again, I apologise if posted in wrong area!

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Re: DLR extension_payment failed_App returned_reapplied

Post by CMOSUK » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:54 am

tintin_2018 wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:57 am
Hi All,

thanks for all cooperation so far. I have posted lots of question earlier but as I did not have complete pic was a bit in the air. I apologise to have wasted some time of all.

This is the situation with help of high profiled lawyer:

1. DLR granted in 2014 on the basis of few things one of them is also building a successful medical career in the UK, situation remained unchanged as of now and profession wise improved significantly

2. Extension for renewal was up in July 2017, applied on time and payment was processed by HO that failed in December 2017 and Jan 2018 (by Bank fraud protection dept)

3. Application returned in early Jan 2018 saying to reapply and given 14 days and reapplied and redone the Biom, also acknowledgement received in mid Jan 2018

4. it has been 2 months

maybe phone up your bank to see if another attempt was made for payment and if it was successful or not, at the same time, give them notice that the payment from UKVI/Home Office and the amount they are supposedly going to take so there is not another mishap on their side again.

5. other info- applicant stayed in the UK as a Medical student and then a specialist with NHS (20 yrs in 2019). She never applied ILR because well, lets just say never thought of immigration can be important! (thats a whole different thought process without any excuse)

If you could provide start and end dates for the above information it would help in answering it.

Has this person been working for the past (almost) 20 years and that too with the NHS, since 1999?!?

If they didn't apply for ILR during that time have they had valid leave through out that period?


Anyone faced similar and if so, can you shed any light please? again, I apologise if posted in wrong area!
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