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Expiry of English language test

Post by jafersadeq » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:39 pm

Dear Gurus,

1- There are two dates on the certificate of English language test, one is the date of the Exam, one is the certificate date of issue. HO stated that they accept an evidence no more that 2 years, so which date the count from to specify the expiry date.

2- For ILR, we submit our application 28 days before the end of the 5 years, let's say, for example, the 5 years complete on 1/1/2020 , we can submit our application, let's say on 4/12/2019, and the English certificate expired on 10/12/2019, 8 days after the application date. Does HO accept it?

Thanks

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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by marcnath » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:54 pm

You don't need to submit any evidence for ILR for English as you have a T1E visa
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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by jafersadeq » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:30 pm

marcnath wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:54 pm
You don't need to submit any evidence for ILR for English as you have a T1E visa
Dear friend, you surprised me, this is a new information I know, please refer to an immigration rule.
I have ESOL- City & Guilds, I used it in my initial application, and it is not in the HO list now.

Please advise,

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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by vinny » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:22 pm

2.2(b).
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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by marcnath » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:29 am

Also, from the guidance:

There are 4 ways in which you can show you meet the English language requirement.
These are by:
• being a national of a majority English speaking country;
or
• passing an English language test as detailed in this guidance; or
• holding a degree which was taught in English and is equivalent to a UK bachelor’s degree or above;
or
• you have already shown you have met the requirement in a previous application.


and also

Previous demonstration of acceptable English
You will have already shown that you meet the English language requirement without the need to provide evidence if you were last given permission to stay in the UK:
1. under Tier 1 (General), Tier 1 (Graduate Entrepreneur), Tier 1 (Post-Study Work) or Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) and are applying for an extension of leave to remain
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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by jafersadeq » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:09 am

Dear marcnath , vinny

I have read the rule below:

Immigration Rules Appendix KoLL
Part 2 - knowledge of language and life
2.2 : For the purposes of paragraph 2.1, an applicant demonstrates sufficient knowledge of the English language if:


(b) the applicant-
1. (i) has limited leave to enter or remain in the UK, and
2. (ii) that leave (or a grant of leave which preceded it provided any periods of leave since have been unbroken) was given on the basis that the applicant had an English language qualification at a minimum level of B1 on the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages.
3. (iii) at the date of application, the provider of that qualification continues to be approved by the Secretary of State as specified in Appendix O to these Rules.


I understood, that if I have English certificate and I used it in my initial and extension applications, I can use it for ILR in a condition: that the provider has to be in the current list of HO approved centres.

In my case, I have ESOL, I used it in my initial application, and I will use it in my extension application, but I cannot use it in ILR because ESOL is not acceptable in providers list of HO.
What I mean, that I need a new English certificate, and I asked my questions in my first thread.
Please advise

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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by marcnath » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:41 pm

Yes, I did see that clause in the immigration rules.
Your original question related to expiry of the certificate and that it does not matter if the certificate expired.
But, if the qualification you had is no longer recognised by HO, then yes, I believe you will have to obtain a recognised certificate.
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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by zimba » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:56 am

ESOL cannot be used. You must provide a SELT test certificate
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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by jafersadeq » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:06 am

zimba88 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:56 am
ESOL cannot be used. You must provide a SELT test certificate
marcnath wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:41 pm
Yes, I did see that clause in the immigration rules.
Your original question related to expiry of the certificate and that it does not matter if the certificate expired.
But, if the qualification you had is no longer recognised by HO, then yes, I believe you will have to obtain a recognised certificate.
jafersadeq wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:39 pm
Dear Gurus,

1- There are two dates on the certificate of English language test, one is the date of the Exam, one is the certificate date of issue. HO stated that they accept an evidence no more that 2 years, so which date the count from to specify the expiry date.

2- For ILR, we submit our application 28 days before the end of the 5 years, let's say, for example, the 5 years complete on 1/1/2020 , we can submit our application, let's say on 4/12/2019, and the English certificate expired on 10/12/2019, 8 days after the application date. Does HO accept it?

Thanks
Dear marcnath/zimba,
My first question was right, and I did know that I have to obtain SELT, I talked about the two dates on the SELT certificate, so please read my question and inform me which date HO considers, the test date or the certificate date, and what about if the certificate expires 8 days after the application date.

Thanks a lot

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Re: Expiry of English language test

Post by marcnath » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:30 am

jafersadeq wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:39 pm
Dear Gurus,

1- There are two dates on the certificate of English language test, one is the date of the Exam, one is the certificate date of issue. HO stated that they accept an evidence no more that 2 years, so which date the count from to specify the expiry date.

2- For ILR, we submit our application 28 days before the end of the 5 years, let's say, for example, the 5 years complete on 1/1/2020 , we can submit our application, let's say on 4/12/2019, and the English certificate expired on 10/12/2019, 8 days after the application date. Does HO accept it?

Thanks
ok. Back to the original questions.

1. Frankly, I don't know. I would expect it to be the exam date as that is most logical. I assume you can request for a certificate copy (for example) few months later and the issue date would reflect that later date.
2. That should be acceptable - the basis has to be the date of application.
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