ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Only for UK Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) points system. This route is now closed to new applicants.

Moderators: Casa, John, ChetanOjha, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix

Locked
ikramjunaid009
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:45 pm
Pakistan

Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by ikramjunaid009 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:58 am

Hi,

This is a serious question and it needs urgent attention from all visas gurus. I am asking this question on my friend's behalf. He has made an application to extend Tier 1 Entrepreneur Visa in May, 2017 and he is still awaiting a decision. He is also eligible now to make an application for FLR (FP).

His question is, can he vary his application to FLR (FP) while his application i.e. T1 Extension is still in process? If he is allowed to do so, then what is the process?

Thank you

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 21938
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by zimba » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:20 pm

What makes him eligible to apply for FLR(FP) ?
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

ikramjunaid009
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:45 pm
Pakistan

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by ikramjunaid009 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:54 pm

Hi Zimba sorry I applied in July 2017. He asked me that his non-EU son in UK for last 8 years lawfully. He is asking me if he vary his application on the basis of 7 years continuous residence possible?

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 21938
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by zimba » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:59 pm

Visa based on the 7 year rule is issued rarely as far as I know. I am not really familiar with it much.
Varying an application can be done simply by applying for FLR as usual and including a cover letter with the intention of varying previous application.
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

ikramjunaid009
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:45 pm
Pakistan

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by ikramjunaid009 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:07 pm

Hi Zimbaa Thank you for your reply. My friend just ask me that If he submit fresh application of FLR(FP) and after the biometrics if he withdraw his previous application of extension so there is any issue?

Also, if he withdraw his previous application so what about his status? means will his continuous residency period break?

Kindly answer because he is going to see his lawyer by tomorrow so before the discussion with him he wants me to clear some points.

User avatar
marcnath
Moderator
Posts: 6493
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by marcnath » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:17 pm

ikramjunaid009 wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:07 pm
Hi Zimbaa Thank you for your reply. My friend just ask me that If he submit fresh application of FLR(FP) and after the biometrics if he withdraw his previous application of extension so there is any issue?
You can't have two applications at the same time. So this scenario is not possible.
ikramjunaid009 wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:07 pm
Also, if he withdraw his previous application so what about his status? means will his continuous residency period break?
Yes, if he withdraws his application, he becomes an overstayer.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

ikramjunaid009
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:45 pm
Pakistan

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by ikramjunaid009 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:24 pm

Hi Mac, thank for the reply. So only the option for him to vary the application. If he vary his application so he still on section 3C or it will break.

User avatar
marcnath
Moderator
Posts: 6493
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by marcnath » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:25 pm

ikramjunaid009 wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:24 pm
Hi Mac, thank for the reply. So only the option for him to vary the application. If he vary his application so he still on section 3C or it will break.
He will remain on 3C
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 21938
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by zimba » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:28 pm

You are not allowed to have two applications simultaneously. You either apply for a new application as a variation of previous application OR you must withdraw the previous application first, in order to submit a new one. The obvious advantage of varying is that your status remains the same after variation is accepted
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

ikramjunaid009
Newly Registered
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:45 pm
Pakistan

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by ikramjunaid009 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:44 pm

Thank you Zimba and Mac. One more question if he vary his application from point base system to non-point base system, is there any legal obligation? means that the HO says you are not allow to vary application on non-point scoring system.

Secondly the fee of previous application will lost or the HO compensate in new application?

User avatar
marcnath
Moderator
Posts: 6493
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by marcnath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:17 am

ikramjunaid009 wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:44 pm
Thank you Zimba and Mac. One more question if he vary his application from point base system to non-point base system, is there any legal obligation? means that the HO says you are not allow to vary application on non-point scoring system.

Secondly the fee of previous application will lost or the HO compensate in new application?
HO has the right not to accept the FLR(FP) application and ask him to wait for the extension application processing. Even if they accept it, they will still likely look through the T1E application before deciding on the FLR(FP)

If you vary, yes, the earlier fee will be refunded
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 21938
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by zimba » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:53 am

ikramjunaid009 wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:44 pm
Thank you Zimba and Mac. One more question if he vary his application from point base system to non-point base system, is there any legal obligation? means that the HO says you are not allow to vary application on non-point scoring system.

Secondly the fee of previous application will lost or the HO compensate in new application?
Variation has nothing to do with the point based system.
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

hina_pirzada
Member of Standing
Posts: 320
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:09 pm
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: Vary application to FLR (FP) while Tier 1 (Extension) under process?

Post by hina_pirzada » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:57 pm

Hi Zimba , Ikram is asking about his friend about FLR(FP) variation from T1 Ent (Ext). Just want to ask if his friend application will approve on the basis of private life so what about his previous residency status means his friend needs again 10 years to reach ILR?? What i have seen people apply FLR(FP) when they are over stayer but in his friend case he is not an over stayer. Normally FLR(FP) HO grants 30 months leave to remain called (DL). If his freind completed 10 years before his first leave expire so he can vary to ILR or not.

Locked