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April 2018 Restricted COS

Only for the UK Skilled Worker visas, formerly known as Tier 2 visa route

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maticskhadka
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by maticskhadka » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:53 am

What a disaster, People with 30 points and less are now left with no hope.

nshar4
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by nshar4 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:54 am

Has no one heard today on their application rejection / approval . Its like Feeling anxious every single minute to ultimately get a rejection at 45 pts

bp_hope
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by bp_hope » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:22 am

This is frustrating. Not getting approved at 45 points and employer is not ready to increase salary to make it to 50 points. Not sure what to do.

LVP
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by LVP » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:24 am

Hi , I am having 36 points.my application would be submitted for 1st attempt in May allotment. Looking at the trend it looks quite disappointing , but fingers cross .
Any chances for people holding 30's range?? :(

noble2004
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by noble2004 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am

I'am in the same situation with 35 points :(

nshar4
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by nshar4 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:34 am

I am not sure what is taking HO to send out rejections and shatter the hope once and in for all . What is the point to drag it when they don't want to do anything about it . This would literally save us days of frustration and waiting

MikeyTier2
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by MikeyTier2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:43 am

Refused 45 points non shortage.
Plan B Entrepreneurs visa.
Good luck to everyone for next month 🤘

SG_1
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by SG_1 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:54 am

MikeyTier2 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:43 am
Refused 45 points non shortage.
Plan B Entrepreneurs visa.
Good luck to everyone for next month 🤘
Hey, did you receive the reply today?

sptula
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by sptula » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:58 am

maticskhadka wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:53 am
What a disaster, People with 30 points and less are now left with no hope.
May be after 3-4 months 30 point application may go through

MikeyTier2
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by MikeyTier2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:00 pm

SG_1 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:54 am
MikeyTier2 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:43 am
Refused 45 points non shortage.
Plan B Entrepreneurs visa.
Good luck to everyone for next month 🤘
Hey, did you receive the reply today?
Yes at 10:54 this morning.

sptula
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by sptula » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:03 pm

tej_san wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:18 am
mschase wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:08 am
tej_san wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:29 pm
If they don't consider these 9 applicants under exceptional case, then all the 409 applicants have to be refused.
"If they don't consider these 9 applicants under exceptional case, then all the 409 applicants have to be refused." - How do you know this?


Having been in this situation since September 2017, a few things to me are clear now:

1) Neither HO nor the Minister of Immigration are interested in addressing this situation as curbing migration and recruiting nationally is their key focus. We can beg, cry, complain all we want but it will all fall under deaf ears. Classic irony is the medical crisis - on one hand they have identified that there is a shortage of doctors and skilled medical recruits yet no action in easing the process of recruiting them internationally.

2) HO has proven to be adamant in making any rule changes or exempting nurses from shortage-occupation list as it would have already been done this month if they wanted. This situation has been ongoing for 5 months so April should have seen some rule changes. This tells me that they want this situation to resolve naturally in the coming months (if it ever does), which of course would be too late for majority of us.

3) Yes we are all selected 'skilled' professionals by our companies/industries in UK yet our situation is of least concern to the government. I would assume a couple more months of this fiasco to continue till it actually becomes a debate in the parliament (again wishful thinking).

4) I'm starting to believe that HO wants employers to become disheartened from this situation, enforcing them to hire locally - which again is something the government really wants.

5) I've realized that we can speculate, calculate and assume all we want but have absolutely no idea of what is happening behind the curtain. A cut-off of atleast 45 this month would have implied positive progress, 46 as neutral, 50 as really bad (most likely the cutoff this month). The backloggers and growing number of applications each month (peak period of hiring) is worrying.

My greatest disappointment, which even @sptula shares, is that few of us applied in Nov with proper RLMT and points well-above the cutoff, yet our application was dragged onto December 2017 where it was officially refused for the first time. My employer's appeal in September 2017 was also ignored (despite being a Tier A sponsor). I can't argue for unfairness but it just goes to show that UK's Tier 2 system is beyond broken.

I wish everyone best of luck with their applications. Time for me to consider other options now as this situation has gone outside my control. My employer has lost confidence too and it would be unrealistic for me to pressure them for reapplication, salary hike, appeal etc.
"If they don't consider these 9 applicants under exceptional case, then all the 409 applicants have to be refused." - How do you know this?

As I have mentioned, it's either the entire lot has to be approved together or else refused. If 300 certificates are remaining with 409 applicants at the same point band (say 50), even if 100 certificates borrowed from next month (the rule book says each month maximum 100 certificates can be borrowed from next month), it becomes 400 certificates. What to do with remaining 9 applicants, either approve these 9 or refuse all 409 and carry over 300 certificates to next month.

Look at the Dec-17 figures, where 91 certificates were borrowed to accommodate 55 points band.

However, In Jan and Feb the applicants in 45 points band were far more than 115+100 and 201+100 respectively, so the entire lot of 45 point band was refused and the balance certificates (115 and 201) were carried over to next month.

I hope it's now clear to everyone.

My greatest disappointment, which even @sptula shares, is that few of us applied in Nov with proper RLMT and points well-above the cutoff, yet our application was dragged onto December 2017 where it was officially refused for the first time. My employer's appeal in September 2017 was also ignored (despite being a Tier A sponsor). I can't argue for unfairness but it just goes to show that UK's Tier 2 system is beyond broken.


May I know how did your employer appeal? I got to know that appeal process or administrative review is not possible for RCoS, it's only for visa applications. I have a similar situation where in I missed opportunity in October and November due to HO's mistake. We have been highlighting this by writing email to them every month, but I don't get any reply nor they listen or accept their mistake!

The only option for me to get RCoS is if HO accepts their mistake in Oct/Nov where my points were well within cut-off. But, I really don't know how. Appreciate if anyone can help me. Thanks!

There is no way you can appeal on RCOS decision unless you are told your application is rejected for some mistake in the application. Even then they will accept you are right and will consider your application for next month's aloocation...it has to follow same selection criteria of cut-off points

mhib
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by mhib » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:05 pm

sptula wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:58 am
maticskhadka wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:53 am
What a disaster, People with 30 points and less are now left with no hope.
May be after 3-4 months 30 point application may go through
Unfortunately, after 3-4 months the number of COSs available will also reduce. I think it is 2200 for April, then 2000 between May and September.

tej_san
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by tej_san » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:12 pm

sptula wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:03 pm
There is no way you can appeal on RCOS decision unless you are told your application is rejected for some mistake in the application. Even then they will accept you are right and will consider your application for next month's aloocation...it has to follow same selection criteria of cut-off points
Do you have any link to this rule? I couldn't find it anywhere.

Here, HO made a mistake in Oct/Nov due to which I am stuck for last 6 months with no sign of getting RCoS in coming months!

I understand they should consider such errors due to which someone's life is messed up badly apart from the mental stress and anxiety for last 6 months! There is no point in comparing the points now with current month's cut-off. My points were sufficient to get RCoS in Oct/Nov and HO ruined this chances, that's it!

Please let me know if you or anyone else knows more on how to deal with this situation.

pizzapizza
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by pizzapizza » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:05 pm

worldlukie wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:13 am
pizzapizza wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:43 am
JalajArora wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:20 am
is there anyone else left with 50?
I am at 50 and no response yet from HO.
Not on SOC.
Im still waiting on 50 points.
Did anyone with 50 points get a refusal/rejection yet? :?: The wait is excruciating.

SG_1
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by SG_1 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:16 pm

pizzapizza wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:05 pm
worldlukie wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:13 am
pizzapizza wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:43 am
JalajArora wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:20 am
is there anyone else left with 50?
I am at 50 and no response yet from HO.
Not on SOC.
Im still waiting on 50 points.
Did anyone with 50 points get a refusal/rejection yet? :?: The wait is excruciating.
Still waiting at 50.

canadarox
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by canadarox » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:50 pm

I think we need to bring this to the attention of the media.
Anyone interested in starting a petition on https://www.change.org/?

suren2331
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by suren2331 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:59 pm

Got refused at 40 points non shortage occupation,I have been applying since last December.The company said that they will not pursue anymore,my UK hopes are dashed as of now.All the best for rest of the people

JalajArora
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by JalajArora » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:09 pm

Approved with 50 points Non Shortage. RCOS Issued. Thanks guys

SG_1
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by SG_1 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:12 pm

JalajArora wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:09 pm
Approved with 50 points Non Shortage. RCOS Issued. Thanks guys
Congratulations. Is it a normal approval or it states exceptional/out of monthly allocation?

JalajArora
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by JalajArora » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:12 pm

Guys need some help.

I was on a Tier 2 Short term (1 year) visa valid from sept 2016 - sept 2017. According to new rules on April 1 2017- Tier 2 ICT SHORT TERM visa was pushed off by the UK govt. Need to check am I facing any kind of cooling period ?

JalajArora
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by JalajArora » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:13 pm

SG_1 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:12 pm
JalajArora wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:09 pm
Approved with 50 points Non Shortage. RCOS Issued. Thanks guys
Congratulations. Is it a normal approval or it states exceptional/out of monthly allocation?
Normal Approval only

pizzapizza
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by pizzapizza » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:18 pm

JalajArora wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:13 pm
SG_1 wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:12 pm
JalajArora wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:09 pm
Approved with 50 points Non Shortage. RCOS Issued. Thanks guys
Congratulations. Is it a normal approval or it states exceptional/out of monthly allocation?
Normal Approval only
Congratulations JalajArora!! Could you please share what SOC was it applied for?

krishpa
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by krishpa » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:21 pm

canadarox wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:50 pm
I think we need to bring this to the attention of the media.
Anyone interested in starting a petition on https://www.change.org/?
yes better we all sign up.. expertise can give a right statement and how to approach and where to?

pizzapizza
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by pizzapizza » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:24 pm

Guys I just got through. 50 points. non soc. Was stuck since september due to various reasons. Good luck to all, please don't lose hope.

thisB
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Re: April 2018 Restricted COS

Post by thisB » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:30 pm

pizzapizza wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:24 pm
Guys I just got through. 50 points. non soc. Was stuck since september due to various reasons. Good luck to all, please don't lose hope.
Congrats! That's such a long wait - good for you for sticking through. Go enjoy the lovely British Summer!

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