applying for another 2.5yrs visa extension - advise

[Bucki82]

Hello All,

Apologies if my post is not in the relevant category.

My wife joined me in year November 2015 on UK Spouse Visa with 5 year route.
I need a bit of advise and guidance in getting prepared for the extended spouse visa process.

Criteria's to be met:

- We still live at our parents property
(this also was the case when she applied for initial spouse visa)
- We do not have any bill facilities in our names
(apart from monthly phone usage, bank statement)
- I am still working for the same employer as per the initial application
(still earning more than £18.600 per annual).
- Unfortunately, we have no kids yet

Hint: copy of passports and ID's.


Forms required:

- which forms do I need to fill in ?!
- What are the required proof of documents ?
(I can provide payslips, employment letter, bank statement, proof of address, consent letter from parents)
- ...
- ...


English Test required:

- A2 or B1
http://www.trinitycollege.com/site/?id=3218


Fees:

- NHS Surcharge <£500
- Application >£900



Please advise what else is required from us?
Or any other precautions I should be aware of.


Thank you

[CR001]

A2 English required for a spouse visa extension.

Form FLR(M) lists the documents you require clearly.

Fee is £993 for postal or £1583 for in person same day decision PLUS £500 IHS.

[Bucki82]

Hi,

The information you refer to, is it them:
https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/provide-information

If so then there are some bullet points that do concern me such as:

•your relationship with your partner, for example how you met and how often you see each other
> I already proofed our relationship in the beginning how and when we met and chat logs.

•how long you’ve lived together - you’ll need to send proof like council tax bills
> We still live at my parents and any bills are on their names :/
> Only bank statement are in our names

•things you pay for together
> We share our bank (joint account)

•give details of any previous immigration applications you’ve made
> like what? the details of the initial spouse visa application... ?


My questions:

Will my parents consent be used as evidence?
Also the consent (confirmation) from the housing association about the current tenant ?

Apart from above, I have no other documents
PS: My wife worked for 2 months a temp job and got the payslips but they will be over 6 months by the time we have to apply.


By the way If passes B1 Test will it still be accepted for the extension visa and then for the Indefinite Leave to Remain as well ??

[CR001]

Form FLR(M) link below, see pages 60-65, 'Section 13 - Documents' on what HO expects to see for a spouse visa extension, particularly the document examples at the top of page 64 to prove subsisting relationship and cohabitation.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -04-17.pdf

give details of any previous immigration applications you’ve made
> like what? the details of the initial spouse visa application... ?

Yes, spouse visa.

My questions:

Will my parents consent be used as evidence?
Also the consent (confirmation) from the housing association about the current tenant ?

A letter from your parents is fine. You need a letter from the HA stating your wife (and you) are permitted to live there.

Apart from above, I have no other documents
PS: My wife worked for 2 months a temp job and got the payslips but they will be over 6 months by the time we have to apply.

See the form pages as mentioned above.

By the way If passes B1 Test will it still be accepted for the extension visa and then for the Indefinite Leave to Remain as well ??

B1 is for ILR as the rules stand now. No one knows if this will change in the future or not.

[Bucki82]

Hi,

Thanks for your help and advise.
indeed, upon checking the lists on page 64, I must say that we do not have all the documents as listed.

What we can provide is:

- bank statement (join account)
- monthly mobile bill (on wifes name only)
- GP & NHS letters about recent treatments due to having 3 losses
- Letter from HM Revenue when she got her National Insurance almost 1n half years ago.
- Letter from HA confirming the tenant (same letter was used for the first spouse visa application).

apart from that, there is nothing else we can provide.
Potentially I could change the TV license bill on our name instead but it's one off payment and don't think we receive it on monthly basis.

Regards A2 and B1 test.
Yes I understand at least A2 is required for extending the visa but if she passes B1 - why would that not be acceptable even though B1 is a higher level test and should outweigh the A2 level .

[CR001]

Regards A2 and B1 test.
Yes I understand at least A2 is required for extending the visa but if she passes B1 - why would that not be acceptable even though B1 is a higher level test and should outweigh the A2 level .

My comment above was regarding ILR. B1 will obviously be accepted if from an HO approved test provider.

[Bucki82]

Hello All

Me wife got the spouse visa in year Nov 2015 and the Residence Card will expire in July 2018.
I am in process to gather all the required documents before submitting by end of May (28days earlier).

From my understanding I need the following documents:

- FLR(M) Document filled out
- A2 English test certification
- NHS Surcharge
- Certified copies of Passwords / residence cards
- 2 x passport photos
- Employment Letter
- Employment Contract
- Bank Statement
- 6 PaySlips
- Proof of Address (still living at my parents, no utility bills but only bank statement and mobile contract)
- Letter from the Housing Associations confirming the beds and people in it.
- Marriage certificate ?
- what else?

In terms of the NHS Charge, I have heard that it apparently has doubled in cost, is this correct??
If so, then am I also affected by it ? or is it only valid for NEW applicants ?

In terms of the A2 certificate, can she pass B1 test and hand it instead of A2??
I am hoping that after 2.5yrs she can use the B1 test for the Indefinite leave to remain??

Also how much am I expected to pay for the whole application?


NOTE:

I may be changing my job in next following months and just worried if this may have an effect on the application process?? The new job will be above 26K and at the current job is round 23K atm.

I guess I will have show my current payslips and the new job contract ??

[CR001]

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[CR001]

- what else?

2 years evidence of cohabitation in either joint names or individual names.

In terms of the NHS Charge, I have heard that it apparently has doubled in cost, is this correct??
If so, then am I also affected by it ? or is it only valid for NEW applicants ?

IHS increase will likely only happen later this year. It will affect ALL applicants.

In terms of the A2 certificate, can she pass B1 test and hand it instead of A2??
I am hoping that after 2.5yrs she can use the B1 test for the Indefinite leave to remain??

As previously advised, B1 is fine.

Also how much am I expected to pay for the whole application?

£1,033 PLUS £500 IHS for a postal application. If you apply in person at the premium centre, you add £610 to the figures.

NOTE:

I may be changing my job in next following months and just worried if this may have an effect on the application process?? The new job will be above 26K and at the current job is round 23K atm.

I would suggest you wait till she has her extension visa before changing jobs to keep it simple.

I guess I will have show my current payslips and the new job contract ??

A future job contract is not relevant. You need to submit evidence of your circumstances at the time of application.

[Bucki82]

Thanks for the feedback.
Totally forgot I already asked similar question in the past, my apologies.

As per proving we lived together, well we don't have utility bills as living with parents but we have bank in joint account and then a mobile contract on her name, then I got my payslips.

As per the new job: hmmm that will be tricky cos IF my interview goes well then they may ask me to start working from beginning of June and I cannot decline it cos the salary is much better.

Just wondering, how I will be tackling this case IF I do change my job?
I will have to show my new job contract / employment letter and then also my old payslips ?

there is no other way

[Bucki82]

I would suggest you wait till she has her extension visa before changing jobs to keep it simple.

A future job contract is not relevant. You need to submit evidence of your circumstances at the time of application.

Hi,

The earliest I can submit the forms is by 15th of June (expiry is on 13th July) which makes it 28days.
What issues am I going to have if I start the job by 4th of June, knowing that I won't have any payslips from the new job but only from my old employer?

Also, the current employer won't provide me Employment Letter knowing I am leaving and even if they do; probably they will note that I be leaving the company.

Hmmmm any advise on what to expect ???
Can UKGOV turn the application down just cos I started new job ... :/

[Bucki82]

I would suggest you wait till she has her extension visa before changing jobs to keep it simple.

A future job contract is not relevant. You need to submit evidence of your circumstances at the time of application.

Hi,

The earliest I can submit the forms is by 15th of June (expiry is on 13th July) which makes it 28days.
What issues am I going to have if I start the job by 4th of June, knowing that I won't have any payslips from the new job but only from my old employer?

Also, the current employer won't provide me Employment Letter knowing I am leaving and even if they do; probably they will note that I be leaving the company.

Hmmmm any advise on what to expect ???
Can UKGOV turn the application down just cos I started new job ... :/

[seagul]

I would suggest you wait till she has her extension visa before changing jobs to keep it simple.

A future job contract is not relevant. You need to submit evidence of your circumstances at the time of application.

Hi,

The earliest I can submit the forms is by 15th of June (expiry is on 13th July) which makes it 28days.
What issues am I going to have if I start the job by 4th of June, knowing that I won't have any payslips from the new job but only from my old employer?

Also, the current employer won't provide me Employment Letter knowing I am leaving and even if they do; probably they will note that I be leaving the company.

Hmmmm any advise on what to expect ???
Can UKGOV turn the application down just cos I started new job ... :/

If you are really so stubborn to join the new job despite know the risk of HO likely enquiry from your old employer then preferably use category B. Because your visa expiring on 13th July but you are planning to join job on 4th June, even in that case you can get at least one payslip with new employer. Under category B you would have to attach 12 payslips & bank statements but you might be a lot safer than simply attaching 6 months documents by showing only old job.

[Bucki82]

If you are really so stubborn to join the new job despite know the risk of HO likely enquiry from your old employer then preferably use category B. Because your visa expiring on 13th July but you are planning to join job on 4th June, even in that case you can get at least one payslip with new employer. Under category B you would have to attach 12 payslips & bank statements but you might be a lot safer than simply attaching 6 months documents by showing only old job.

Why am I being stubborn? cos I want to progress in my career in IT. and earn more ??
I am sure HO will not be that idiotic to simply make a decision "well, you changed your job therefore we refuse the extension of the visa" this is absurd in my opinion.

Visa expires on 13th July and the earliest we can apply is on 15th of June (being 28 days).
Surely it does not have to be bang on 28days before and can wait for a few days more ...

With God's willing, if I start the new job on the 4th > there wont be a payslip until the next month (it is a monthly paid job and not weekly) around 2nd of July, which may be a bit too risky to apply via post?

Anyway, as per the payslips > I can provide 12payslips of my "old" current job but then it would be a contract from my new employer (if it comes to that). Including bank statement of course.

So, hmmmm not sure if I just should apply only on Category A as if I am still at my current Employer and not mention about the new job at all, since I will present all payslips from where I am anyway.

Though, the employment letter will probably states that the end date :/

[seagul]

If you still wish with category A then be ready to embrace a great risk but still telling to HO regarding New job will be wiser.

[Bucki82]

If you still wish with category A then be ready to embrace a great risk but still telling to HO regarding New job will be wiser.

I also asked HOW I should talke the situation of a new job ???
Since I will not have any payslips from the new job by the time of the application anyway...

[Londoner007]

You have been clearly advised that you risk issues if Home Office call your old work place and they cannot confirm you are still there.

You have also been informed that it's safer to go CAT B since you wouldn't be in at least 6 months in your new workplace.

You have also been advised to inform them of your situation should you pursue this new job.

You have yet been quiet rude about it and yes so therefore you are quiet stubborn and selfish considering it is your spouse who is at risk of refusal.

Do as you please.

[Bucki82]

You have yet been quiet rude about it and yes so therefore you are quiet stubborn and selfish considering it is your spouse who is at risk of refusal.
Do as you please.

How am I being rude and stubborn about asking for advise ...
One said "you are stubborn because you want to advance in career and earn more money" and other said "well, go for CatB but also include one playslip from the new employer"

I clearly said, I won't be able to provide any payslips from the new employer (IF I GET EMPLOYED) but only from the old (current) job. Therefore, I need to fill Cat A and Cat B out as I understood.

I really don't understand your logic of Home Office refusing an application just cos I got a new job!!!

[Londoner007]

Logic is everyone has advised you with side of caution to protect any risk of your application getting refused.

Like I have said do as you please. I will not be providing any further inputs.

All the best.

[Bucki82]

Well bad news for me ... I was not successful
Therefore in this case I need to stick with Category A and provide 6 month PaySlips + Bank statement + employment letter and contract ???