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Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

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Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by mohsensari » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:15 am

I’ve check the newest policy (v. 4/2018) , HO has removed monthly words from the guidance.
In evidence of job creation (FPS requirement ) it was a paragraph which it said “ the total payments made to the settlement workers on Hmrc document must show third earning for each week or month that they worked for you.”
This and and at the end of policy (job creation example) confirm that they will accept the monthly payslip and FPS.
As in new policy wasn’t clear about monthly and they removed all monthly words, shall we transfer from monthly to weekly to be in safe side?

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Re: Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by marcnath » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:11 am

mohsensari wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:15 am
I’ve check the newest policy (v. 4/2018) , HO has removed monthly words from the guidance.
In evidence of job creation (FPS requirement ) it was a paragraph which it said “ the total payments made to the settlement workers on Hmrc document must show third earning for each week or month that they worked for you.”
This and and at the end of policy (job creation example) confirm that they will accept the monthly payslip and FPS.
As in new policy wasn’t clear about monthly and they removed all monthly words, shall we transfer from monthly to weekly to be in safe side?
It was ALWAYS clear that they will accept monthly payslip.

Nothing has changed on that aspect.
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Re: Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by mohsensari » Tue May 01, 2018 12:54 am

Thanks,
Monthly working hours not clear from the guidance,
Any way if an employer on monthly basis, is 130 hours acceptable per job?

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Re: Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by zimba » Tue May 01, 2018 1:16 am

Payslips should cover the total number of weeks you are claiming. That is the standard
You can pay your employees weekly, monthly, quarterly, etc. That does not matter as long as all the payslips cover the min 104 weeks of full time work
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Re: Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by marcnath » Tue May 01, 2018 6:47 am

mohsensari wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 12:54 am
Thanks,
Monthly working hours not clear from the guidance,
Any way if an employer on monthly basis, is 130 hours acceptable per job?
Monthly hours have never been specified in the immigration rules, which supersedes the guidance anyway.
The only requirement in the immigration rules is 30 hrs/week. As long as you can justify that, it is fine.
130 hrs/month is something that just helps calculate that as it is the average if you employ someone for 12 months. But as @zimba pointed out, the key thing is to have two jobs of 52 weeks each.
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Re: Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by mohsensari » Tue May 01, 2018 1:29 pm

zimba88 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 1:16 am
Payslips should cover the total number of weeks you are claiming. That is the standard
You can pay your employees weekly, monthly, quarterly, etc. That does not matter as long as all the payslips cover the min 104 weeks of full time work
Dose it mean HO using the a formula for example:
(Total Gross paid for 12 months / hourly rate= Total hours worked) and then ( Total hours / 52 = weekly working hours) and if it’s more than 30 hours, conciderable as a full time.
They may argue that to prove employee worked exactly 30 hours every week not for example worked 20 hours one week and worked 40 hours the week after.

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Re: Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by marcnath » Tue May 01, 2018 2:42 pm

mohsensari wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 1:29 pm
zimba88 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 1:16 am
Payslips should cover the total number of weeks you are claiming. That is the standard
You can pay your employees weekly, monthly, quarterly, etc. That does not matter as long as all the payslips cover the min 104 weeks of full time work
Dose it mean HO using the a formula for example:
(Total Gross paid for 12 months / hourly rate= Total hours worked) and then ( Total hours / 52 = weekly working hours) and if it’s more than 30 hours, conciderable as a full time.
They may argue that to prove employee worked exactly 30 hours every week not for example worked 20 hours one week and worked 40 hours the week after.
While we don't know the exact formula, your example would be pretty close to what I think they do.
There is no requirement to show that employees worked 30 hrs/week. But yes, they can ask all sort of information if they have a reason to suspect things like that are going on. I am sure they have enough work anyway and will not just ask such proof to create more work for them.
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Re: Monthly or weekly FPS for policy guidance 4/2018

Post by zimba » Tue May 01, 2018 3:06 pm

mohsensari wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 1:29 pm
Dose it mean HO using the a formula for example:
(Total Gross paid for 12 months / hourly rate= Total hours worked) and then ( Total hours / 52 = weekly working hours) and if it’s more than 30 hours, conciderable as a full time.
They may argue that to prove employee worked exactly 30 hours every week not for example worked 20 hours one week and worked 40 hours the week after.
Pretty much as the context matters here. If you paid an employee consistently on a monthly basis, there is no reason why they should doubt that you are reporting it correctly on the balance of probabilities.
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