Dna test with supporting docs ancestry visa

[saeef]

Hello, my son's ancestry visa got refused because he never got a birth certificate and has to use an affidavit which he used to get his Bahamas passport. They claimed that this is not enough proof to show that he has blood ties to my father who is British born. Is this really a good enough reason? Isn't a birth certificate nothing more than a kind of affidavit? How many kids are not really blood relatives of birth certificate father for whatever reason?
So, we are going with a dna test to prove lineage. I have contacted alphabiolabs for this service. They claim they are home office approved. Is any one familiar with this company and is it recommended or any other suggestions? Thanks saeef

[CR001]

What do you mean an affidavit, from who or where saying what?

A birth cert is mandatory for ancestry visa and is not the same as an affidavit as far as I am aware.

[saeef]

What do you mean an affidavit, from who or where saying what?

A birth cert is mandatory for ancestry visa and is not the same as an affidavit as far as I am aware.

Hello. In the Bahamas if you do not get a birth certificate within a certain amount of time after the birth you can never again get a birth certificate. We made that mistake. So an affidavit by a parent had to be sworn. In The Bahamas this is sufficient/the same as a birth certificate to obtain a Bahamas passport.
The wording of the refusal: "You stated your birth certificate was not registered at the time of birth and therefore you are unable to provide a full birth certificate stating the name of your father. I've noted the affidavit you have provided, however this does not confirm your eligibility for UK ancestry visa. In the absence of a birth certificate I am unable to confirm the relationship between yourself, father and grandfather. I am therefore not satisfied you qualify for UK ancestry visa. I have therefore refused your application because I am not satisfied, on the balance of probabilities that you meet all the requirements of the relevant paragraph of the United Kingdom Immigration Rules."
Thanks, saeef

[secret.simon]

Isn't a birth certificate nothing more than a kind of affidavit?

Generally no. A birth certificate is a record kept by the state, is generally issued within a specific number of days of birth (42 in England and Wales) and could be corroborated by other sources at the time of issue (the midwife who assisted at the delivery, hospital records, etc). An affidavit is not a record kept by the state, but merely a sworn statement in front of a relevant (generally judicial) authority. Not quite the same. Indeed, in some countries, affidavits are not admissible even in courts as evidence on their own.

In The Bahamas this is sufficient/the same as a birth certificate to obtain a Bahamas passport.

It may be sufficient for the Bahamanian authorities, but not for the UK Home Office.

I have contacted alphabiolabs for this service. They claim they are home office approved. Is any one familiar with this company and is it recommended or any other suggestions?

Recommendations or otherwise for professional services (such as barristers/solicitors/DNA firms, etc) cannot be made on these forums.

[saeef]

I have contacted alphabiolabs for this service. They claim they are home office approved. Is any one familiar with this company and is it recommended or any other suggestions?

secret.simon wrote: Recommendations or otherwise for professional services (such as barristers/solicitors/DNA firms, etc) cannot be made on these forums.

Ok But out of interest do you think that the dna test would be accepted by them to establish lineage for ancestry visa if done by an approved business? I assume strongly that it would, but asking just to be sure.
Thanks saeef

[secret.simon]

A DNA test should be acceptable.

186.The requirements to be met by a person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom on the grounds of his United Kingdom ancestry are that he:
(i) is a Commonwealth citizen; and
(ii) is aged 17 or over; and
(iii) is able to provide proof that one of his grandparents was born in the United Kingdom and Islands and that any such grandparent is the applicant’s blood grandparent or grandparent by reason of an adoption recognised by the laws of the United Kingdom relating to adoption; and
...

[saeef]

A DNA test should be acceptable.

186.The requirements to be met by a person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom on the grounds of his United Kingdom ancestry are that he:
(i) is a Commonwealth citizen; and
(ii) is aged 17 or over; and
(iii) is able to provide proof that one of his grandparents was born in the United Kingdom and Islands and that any such grandparent is the applicant’s blood grandparent or grandparent by reason of an adoption recognised by the laws of the United Kingdom relating to adoption; and
...

ok thanks

[saeef]

Hello, I had to do a dna test for my son because he didn't have a birth certificate due to error.
I have included the results with his supporting docs for his second ancestry visa application. First was refused because the affidavit of birth was not sufficient. Do I have to also request the lab to send the results somewhere to a uk govt agency also or is including the results in the supporting docs from the uk govt approved lab good enough? Thanks saeef