June 2018 Restricted COS

[bbo]

Now i am thinking NHS employess have to go through RCOS route till 6th July. Which means they will be included in July allocation too. Until now i was thinking NHS will be out of RCOS for July allocation

Hey everyone, I've been keeping up to date with these discussions but haven't posted anything yet.

Wanted to provide an update as soon as I knew as I just received a call from my employer that 44 points, Non-SOL, Non-NHS has been rejected because it didnt meet the minimum points for the month.

Fingers crossed next month we have a better chance and good luck to the rest of you.

Many thanks for the update boss. I read an article today which states that even though doctors/nurses are removed from tier 2 cap, cap will still be oversubscribed for few more months because of the backlogs of past 7 months including june.

https://theconversation.com/exemption-f ... ture-98516

I didnt understand why the new rule is applicable only in July because then again doctors/nurses will have to go through COS route this month? I am not sure about this.

I am waiting with 36 points from December and I hope to get COS by around august/september which is more realistic at this stage.

All the best to everyone in this forum

Thanks

[astana]

No, they won't. The only requirement is that they will have to do the RLMT. The allocation meeting will be on 11 July so they will not be in the count.

7.15. Changes are being made to exempt doctors and nurses from the Tier 2
(General) limit. This is in response to the particular shortages and pressures facing
the NHS at the current time, and the fact that the limit has been oversubscribed in
each month since December 2017. The changes will mean that health sector
employers will be able to sponsor doctors and nurses without requiring restricted Tier
2 certificates of sponsorship or putting pressure on the limit. This will free up places
within the limit for other key roles which contribute to the UK economy and other
public services. The changes will be kept under review.
7.16. In all other respects, the change preserves the existing arrangements. This
means that all applications for nurses, and all applications for doctors not currently
recognised on the Shortage Occupation List, will continue to be required to
demonstrate that they have met the requirements of the Resident Labour Market Test.
Doctors currently recognised on the Shortage Occupation List will continue to be
exempt from the RLMT.

[UK2018London]

Non SOL 45K salary, refused because didn't meet the minimum points

[krithi1984]

Guys With 45 to 55 Points any updates please let us aware , It would be more helpful for us to figure out what would be the cut off for this month

[UKTier2June2018]

Non SOL 45K salary, refused because didn't meet the minimum points

Sorry to hear that - hope it goes through next month - thank you for the update

[aditri]

Hey everyone, I've been keeping up to date with these discussions but haven't posted anything yet.

Wanted to provide an update as soon as I knew as I just received a call from my employer that 44 points, Non-SOL, Non-NHS has been rejected because it didnt meet the minimum points for the month.

Fingers crossed next month we have a better chance and good luck to the rest of you.

Sorry for the news, but thanks for updating the forum

[krithi1984]

Non SOL 45K salary, refused because didn't meet the minimum points

Sorry to Hear , so let see whether the cut off would be 46 or 51 , people with 50 points get any refusal then cut off would be same as May .

[krimurthy]

Even if it's 46 cut off we should not break our head unlezs, because there will be enough to carry 45 through next month, I will be little concerned if it's 56 because then 45 going through july becomes bleak and then you can expect 40+ going through in august along with 45 due to the few carried ones and returned rcos in July as well as august.

Honestly I still don't see 30+ going through in august I think it will be in sep/Oct. I will be happy if am proven wrong.

[apazhe]

Even if it's 46 cut off we should not break our head unlezs, because there will be enough to carry 45 through next month, I will be little concerned if it's 56 because then 45 going through july becomes bleak and then you can expect 40+ going through in august along with 45 due to the few carried ones and returned rcos in July as well as august.

Honestly I still don't see 30+ going through in august I think it will be in sep/Oct. I will be happy if am proven wrong.

I really want to see how much certificates will be moved to next month. If it will be like 200-400 then it means all above 45 are cleared but it was not enough to clear 45 as well. But if as usual almost all certificates will be spend this month then it will be really strange. It might means that docs and nurses weren't removed from June allocation.

[UK2018London]

Hi All, one question please if anyone can help.

My potential employer had done an RLMT earlier in March with less salary but after seeing the high cut-offs etc they agreed to higher salary and did another RLMT. Now after getting the news of removing docs and nurses they are planning to reduce the salary so can they use the earlier RLMT or will have to do it again?

Thanks

[shushma10]

Hi All, one question please if anyone can help.

My potential employer had done an RLMT earlier in March with less salary but after seeing the high cut-offs etc they agreed to higher salary and did another RLMT. Now after getting the news of removing docs and nurses they are planning to reduce the salary so can they use the earlier RLMT or will have to do it again?

Thanks

they can use the earlier RLMT if it is not older than 6 months.

[Aelzayaty]

Just got an email from employer .
You were rejected again and soc code is 2136. We assume you got rejected due to salary.
This is 3rd trial and the salary I was offered 45k can someone explain if i am on 2136 soc code with 45k salary will always get rejected as they say or assumed? Because they will not change the salary for my role! I think they are missing something ?
Appreciate helping me

[pbindu]

Any 50/55 points got their refusal emails yet?
I am waiting at 50 , NON SOL.....

[abhi_qa]

Hi All, one question please if anyone can help.

My potential employer had done an RLMT earlier in March with less salary but after seeing the high cut-offs etc they agreed to higher salary and did another RLMT. Now after getting the news of removing docs and nurses they are planning to reduce the salary so can they use the earlier RLMT or will have to do it again?

Thanks

It’s clearly mentioned that changes will be applicable 6th July onwards.
That itself means up to june’18 it’s business as usual.

[krithi1984]

Just got an email from employer .
You were rejected again and soc code is 2136. We assume you got rejected due to salary.
This is 3rd trial and the salary I was offered 45k can someone explain if i am on 2136 soc code with 45k salary will always get rejected as they say or assumed? Because they will not change the salary for my role! I think they are missing something ?
Appreciate helping me

Hi

Sorry to hear , Is it rejected or refused , both are different , if it refused means right now Government allocating COS only for candidates having salary more than 50K. Better luck next time.

Rejected means please contact your employer , they might miss something.

[gb1221]

Recent results seem to suggest, the cut-off will be 46. There was one person who had his RCOS approved for 50K salary a few days ago.

[Aelzayaty]

If they are applying under soc code 2136 this means under sol. So how come i am rejected or refused due to points?

[CR001]

If they are applying under soc code 2136 this means under sol. So how come i am rejected or refused due to points?

Not all jobs under 2136 are shortage occupation!! Only very specific jobs and qualifying companies can use SOL for 2136.

[blitzkrieg333]

If they are applying under soc code 2136 this means under sol. So how come i am rejected or refused due to points?

Not all jobs under 2136 are shortage occupation!! Only very specific jobs and qualifying companies can use SOL for 2136.

How can we know about such companies and jobs, because Appendix K doesn't mention anything about this?

[CR001]

If they are applying under soc code 2136 this means under sol. So how come i am rejected or refused due to points?

Not all jobs under 2136 are shortage occupation!! Only very specific jobs and qualifying companies can use SOL for 2136.

How can we know about such companies and jobs, because Appendix K doesn't mention anything about this?

It mentions very clearly WHICH jobs are SOL under this SOC and what a qualifying company is. Posted AGAIN below from the March RCoS thread!!

2136 Programmers and software development professionals

Only the following jobs in this occupation code:

Senior developer employed by a qualifying company, where the job requires a person with a minimum of five years’ relevant experience and demonstrable experience of having led a team.

The following jobs in visual effects and 2D/3D computer animation for the film, television or video games sectors:

software developer
shader writer
games designer
The following jobs in the electronics system industry:
driver developer
embedded communications engineer

Thats the only Software dev related occupation listed, I think.

to add on...In this Appendix “qualifying company” means a company which:
(a) has obtained permission from the Home Office to issue a Certificate of Sponsorship in respect of the relevant job on the basis that the job is included on the Shortage Occupation List and the company:
(i) is licensed as a sponsor for the purposes of Tier 2 of the Points Based System,
(ii) at the time of obtaining such permission, employs between 20 and 250 employees (inclusive), or employs fewer than 20 employees and has provided a letter from the Department for International Trade, confirming that the Department has been working with the company and supports the application in relation to its trade or investment activity,
(iii) is not more than 25% owned by a company which has one or more other establishments in the UK and one of those establishments employs more than 250 employees; and
(iv) has not been established in the UK for the purpose of supplying services exclusively to a single company or company group in the UK; and
(b) will have no more than ten Tier 2 (General) Migrants working for it at any one time in jobs to which the requirement to be employed by a qualified company applies, if all Certificates of Sponsorship in respect of such jobs lead to a grant of leave as a Tier 2 (General) Migrant.

[Batagin]

Any 50/55 points got their refusal emails yet?
I am waiting at 50 , NON SOL.....

I am also waiting at 50 , NON SOL.....

[Aelzayaty]

If they are applying under soc code 2136 this means under sol. So how come i am rejected or refused due to points?

Not all jobs under 2136 are shortage occupation!! Only very specific jobs and qualifying companies can use SOL

Thanks

[hopefully1989]

Hii Guys

there are some more good news also for IT/Teaching profession. UK Govt is considering review of its shortage list and considering allowing unlimited number of IT/Teachers once they complete the review of its shortage list.

The new structure would allow an unrestricted number of non-EU professional to enter the UK in the acute shortage areas like IT, engineering and teaching.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nr ... 619479.cms

Let us hope this is also effective from july.

[Aelzayaty]

If they are applying under soc code 2136 this means under sol. So how come i am rejected or refused due to points?

Not all jobs under 2136 are shortage occupation!! Only very specific jobs and qualifying companies can use SOL for 2136.

How can we know about such companies and jobs, because Appendix K doesn't mention anything about this?

It mentions very clearly WHICH jobs are SOL under this SOC and what a qualifying company is. Posted AGAIN below from the March RCoS thread!!

2136 Programmers and software development professionals

Only the following jobs in this occupation code:

Senior developer employed by a qualifying company, where the job requires a person with a minimum of five years’ relevant experience and demonstrable experience of having led a team.

The following jobs in visual effects and 2D/3D computer animation for the film, television or video games sectors:

software developer
shader writer
games designer
The following jobs in the electronics system industry:
driver developer
embedded communications engineer

Thats the only Software dev related occupation listed, I think.

to add on...In this Appendix “qualifying company” means a company which:
(a) has obtained permission from the Home Office to issue a Certificate of Sponsorship in respect of the relevant job on the basis that the job is included on the Shortage Occupation List and the company:
(i) is licensed as a sponsor for the purposes of Tier 2 of the Points Based System,
(ii) at the time of obtaining such permission, employs between 20 and 250 employees (inclusive), or employs fewer than 20 employees and has provided a letter from the Department for International Trade, confirming that the Department has been working with the company and supports the application in relation to its trade or investment activity,
(iii) is not more than 25% owned by a company which has one or more other establishments in the UK and one of those establishments employs more than 250 employees; and
(iv) has not been established in the UK for the purpose of supplying services exclusively to a single company or company group in the UK; and
(b) will have no more than ten Tier 2 (General) Migrants working for it at any one time in jobs to which the requirement to be employed by a qualified company applies, if all Certificates of Sponsorship in respect of such jobs lead to a grant of leave as a Tier 2 (General) Migrant.

The position is senior software developer.
So let me get this straight they can apply under this code number and this means it is not under sol ?

[CR001]

Not all jobs under 2136 are shortage occupation!! Only very specific jobs and qualifying companies can use SOL for 2136.

How can we know about such companies and jobs, because Appendix K doesn't mention anything about this?

It mentions very clearly WHICH jobs are SOL under this SOC and what a qualifying company is. Posted AGAIN below from the March RCoS thread!!

2136 Programmers and software development professionals

Only the following jobs in this occupation code:

Senior developer employed by a qualifying company, where the job requires a person with a minimum of five years’ relevant experience and demonstrable experience of having led a team.

The following jobs in visual effects and 2D/3D computer animation for the film, television or video games sectors:

software developer
shader writer
games designer
The following jobs in the electronics system industry:
driver developer
embedded communications engineer

Thats the only Software dev related occupation listed, I think.

to add on...In this Appendix “qualifying company” means a company which:
(a) has obtained permission from the Home Office to issue a Certificate of Sponsorship in respect of the relevant job on the basis that the job is included on the Shortage Occupation List and the company:
(i) is licensed as a sponsor for the purposes of Tier 2 of the Points Based System,
(ii) at the time of obtaining such permission, employs between 20 and 250 employees (inclusive), or employs fewer than 20 employees and has provided a letter from the Department for International Trade, confirming that the Department has been working with the company and supports the application in relation to its trade or investment activity,
(iii) is not more than 25% owned by a company which has one or more other establishments in the UK and one of those establishments employs more than 250 employees; and
(iv) has not been established in the UK for the purpose of supplying services exclusively to a single company or company group in the UK; and
(b) will have no more than ten Tier 2 (General) Migrants working for it at any one time in jobs to which the requirement to be employed by a qualified company applies, if all Certificates of Sponsorship in respect of such jobs lead to a grant of leave as a Tier 2 (General) Migrant.

The position is senior software developer.
So let me get this straight they can apply under this code number and this means it is not under sol ?

2136 is a non shortage in Appendix J and a shortage in Appendix K. To qualify as a shortage occupation, it must be a job with a qualifying company (as explained above). The specific sector listed above is also one which is only applicable to 2136 being shortage occupation.