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A lot are doing it. This may be why the backlog. I may be stepping out on a limb here but from what I understand the uk applying for Irish passport is something other than the EU situation or brexit. It is soe kind of agreement between the two countries. A UK citizen can go and live in Ireland and get benefits nhs etc right away and vice versa.
You are incorrect in your assumption!! A person of any nationality can only naturalise as Irish or claim Irish citizenship through descent, which is what those British citizens that qualify by descent are doing. It is a lengthy process for most as FBR registration is often required first. It has nothing do with the agreement between Ireland and the UK and the CTA etc.saeef wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:49 pmA lot are doing it. This may be why the backlog. I may be stepping out on a limb here but from what I understand the uk applying for Irish passport is something other than the EU situation or brexit. It is soe kind of agreement between the two countries. A UK citizen can go and live in Ireland and get benefits nhs etc right away and vice versa.
If your wife is a non visa required national to Ireland then enter the country with her as you do on holidays and once in the country follow the process explained in the link below.sumosi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:04 pmI am a British Citizen (Can obtain Irish citizenship via grandparent )
Can someone kindly advise - I am due to come to Ireland from a non EU country having been working overseas. My wife is a non EU national
Where and how would be the best way to start? I can apply for Irish citizenship however will need to register as a citizen via birth decent which will take a ages.
Does anyone know what the alternative procedure would be?
Would it be best if I came over first and then sent for my spouse?
Really need help as to where to start
Thanks
Yes. And, only an Irish citizen is entitled to an Irish passport.CR001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:56 pm
A British citizens cannot just arrive in Ireland and apply for citizenship if they have no claim to Irish ancestry or claim benefits unreservedly etc. NHS is UK not Republic of Ireland!
Please, if you are not sure, please rather do not post incorrect information.
Many people unfortunately assume the CTA encompasses all, which it does not and it is frustrating when incorrect information is posted.PasadenaTom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:22 pmYes. And, only an Irish citizen is entitled to an Irish passport.CR001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:56 pm
A British citizens cannot just arrive in Ireland and apply for citizenship if they have no claim to Irish ancestry or claim benefits unreservedly etc. NHS is UK not Republic of Ireland!
Please, if you are not sure, please rather do not post incorrect information.
Post-Brexit, British citizens may enjoy some rights not afforded to other countries under the Common Travel Arrangement between UK and Ireland. I don't think this has been completely settled. But there was a CTA before EU, as it seems to have been in the interest of both countries to allow freedom of movement.
Common travel area a bilateral issue for UK and Ireland, says Tánaiste
Thanks for the response but I think you may have misread me. I never said that a UK citizen can just arrive in Ireland and claim citizenship. I said a lot of people are applying from uk for Irish passport.CR001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:56 pmYou are incorrect in your assumption!! A person of any nationality can only naturalise as Irish or claim Irish citizenship through descent, which is what those British citizens that qualify by descent are doing. It is a lengthy process for most as FBR registration is often required first. It has nothing do with the agreement between Ireland and the UK and the CTA etc.saeef wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:49 pmA lot are doing it. This may be why the backlog. I may be stepping out on a limb here but from what I understand the uk applying for Irish passport is something other than the EU situation or brexit. It is soe kind of agreement between the two countries. A UK citizen can go and live in Ireland and get benefits nhs etc right away and vice versa.
A British citizens cannot just arrive in Ireland and apply for citizenship if they have no claim to Irish ancestry or claim benefits unreservedly etc. NHS is UK not Republic of Ireland!
Please, if you are not sure, please rather do not post incorrect information.
saeef wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:49 pmA lot are doing it. This may be why the backlog. I may be stepping out on a limb here but from what I understand the uk applying for Irish passport is something other than the EU situation or brexit. It is soe kind of agreement between the two countries. A UK citizen can go and live in Ireland and get benefits nhs etc right away and vice versa.
So, in this link it is talking about Ireland or the republic of Ireland. now I am getting confused:CR001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:27 pmMany people unfortunately assume the CTA encompasses all, which it does not and it is frustrating when incorrect information is posted.PasadenaTom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:22 pmYes. And, only an Irish citizen is entitled to an Irish passport.CR001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:56 pm
A British citizens cannot just arrive in Ireland and apply for citizenship if they have no claim to Irish ancestry or claim benefits unreservedly etc. NHS is UK not Republic of Ireland!
Please, if you are not sure, please rather do not post incorrect information.
Post-Brexit, British citizens may enjoy some rights not afforded to other countries under the Common Travel Arrangement between UK and Ireland. I don't think this has been completely settled. But there was a CTA before EU, as it seems to have been in the interest of both countries to allow freedom of movement.
Common travel area a bilateral issue for UK and Ireland, says Tánaiste
Thanks for posting the link, was looking for it but on my phone so intermittent reception on the train.
ok thanks. I did say I might be stepping out on a limb on that, and seems I did. I stand corrected.CR001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:02 pmThe quotes of your posts below are what is incorrect.
British citizenship gives no automatic entitlement to apply for an Irish passport or Irish citizenship and doesn't have anything to do the agreement either.
68.1% of the Irish population don't qualify for the medical card and have to pay for certain health care services.
saeef wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:49 pmA lot are doing it. This may be why the backlog. I may be stepping out on a limb here but from what I understand the uk applying for Irish passport is something other than the EU situation or brexit. It is soe kind of agreement between the two countries. A UK citizen can go and live in Ireland and get benefits nhs etc right away and vice versa.