British Citizenship - New Online Application

[alterhase58]

Hi

In the NDRS online application form, as well as in the passport application form, I am required to write the full names of both my parents. Would it be useful to also submit copies of their passports in the appointement?

Regards

Passports of your parents are not required.

[spawnmild]

Hello all,

I was filling my online naturalisation form ( have been filling it on and off since mid October 2018) and needed some advice in the employment section:

I am currently a director at 4 companies but only drawing a salary from 1. However, I can only enter 1 current employment. What should I do? Since technically non of the other 3 directorships fall under "previous employments"

Thanks!

If it matters, the reason I ask is that one of the companies I am a director of is what I used to obtain Tier 1 entrepreneur visa however I do not draw a salary from that company currently.

[nakau]

Quick question regarding online application.

One of the questions is, Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?
Does that mean you need to list every single visa application you've ever made for the uk such as a spousal visa or working holiday, indefinite leave to remain etc?

Thank you for your time. I had my paper application ready to go but have decided to go with the online form instead.

[CR001]

Quick question regarding online application.

One of the questions is, Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?
Does that mean you need to list every single visa application you've ever made for the uk such as a spousal visa or working holiday, indefinite leave to remain etc?

Thank you for your time. I had my paper application ready to go but have decided to go with the online form instead.

Yes that is what it is asking.

[samsindo]

Hi all,

I have submitted my online application today and will have my NDRS appointment tomorrow (14/11/2018) at the council. So probably will not be able to receive a decision before the end of the year. Is it OK if I go on a holiday during the Christmas break? would there be a problem if a decision is made while I am away?

Many thanks

[CR001]

Hi all,

I have submitted my online application today and will have my NDRS appointment tomorrow (14/11/2018) at the council. So probably will not be able to receive a decision before the end of the year. Is it OK if I go on a holiday during the Christmas break? would there be a problem if a decision is made while I am away?

Many thanks

You are free to travel. Thers is no requirement that you must not leave the UK.

[samsindo]

Thanks very much CR001. Please bear in mind that with the new service (with Sopra Steria), it says in the link below that you may not travel until a decision is made, check out the link below.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... ce-centres

Under "Appointement" it says

"You may not be able to use your passport for travel until you have received a decision on your application."

[CR001]

Thanks very much CR001. Please bear in mind that with the new service (with Sopra Steria), it says in the link below that you may not travel until a decision is made, check out the link below.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... ce-centres

Under "Appointement" it says

"You may not be able to use your passport for travel until you have received a decision on your application."

It does also say you will in most case get your original supporting documents back including passport. So why do you think you won't be able to travel??

[samsindo]

I thought of a scenario where on the way back to the UK, my name shows on the screen for the person at the immigration desk as British citizen, while I'm entering in the UK with another passport + an ILR? that's the only thing I was concerned about.

[CR001]

I thought of a scenario where on the way back to the UK, my name shows on the screen for the person at the immigration desk as British citizen, while I'm entering in the UK with another passport + an ILR? that's the only thing I was concerned about.

You are ONLY British once you have attended your citizenship ceremony, not from date of approval letter!!!

[Alex-makedon]

It looks like the online application form does hot work today.
Does anyone have the same problem?

[melhaj]

Hello,

Could someone please help me with the following:

1- When do I fill and submit the "Apply for naturalisation as a British Citizen" form? In my case on January 8 2019 it's exactly 12 months since I got my ILR and I've been in the UK on that day 5 years ago. The new service shows that I need to book an appointment within 5 days of submission. So can I submit my application earlier than 8 January 2019?

2- In the form it asks: When did you first arrive in the UK? I got ILR on 8/01/2018 on 5 years rout. I first entered the UK to study on 25 August 2008 but went back home and then back to UK on 9 January 2009 to study at a different university as the first one didn't work for me, at that time you didn't need to get a new visa if you change university.

Thanks

[Tnj1976]

Thanks very much CR001. Please bear in mind that with the new service (with Sopra Steria), it says in the link below that you may not travel until a decision is made, check out the link below.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... ce-centres

Under "Appointement" it says

"You may not be able to use your passport for travel until you have received a decision on your application."

It does also say you will in most case get your original supporting documents back including passport. So why do you think you won't be able to travel??

Further details re the new service:
"Waiting for a decision on your application

You should not leave the UK until you have received a decision on your application. If you travel outside the “Common Travel Area” (CTA) before the decision is made on your application, your application will be treated as withdrawn.

The CTA is:

UKRepublic of IrelandChannel IslandsIsle of Man

If the decision is made while you are outside the UK and your current leave has expired you will not have a right to return to the UK and you may be refused entry at the UK border."

I had hoped to travel over the Christmas holiday, but have only just submitted my application and haven't been to a new centre yet to submit my passport and other docs. So what now? Do I have to cancel my travel plans?

[CR001]

Thanks very much CR001. Please bear in mind that with the new service (with Sopra Steria), it says in the link below that you may not travel until a decision is made, check out the link below.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... ce-centres

Under "Appointement" it says

"You may not be able to use your passport for travel until you have received a decision on your application."

It does also say you will in most case get your original supporting documents back including passport. So why do you think you won't be able to travel??

Further details re the new service:
"Waiting for a decision on your application

You should not leave the UK until you have received a decision on your application. If you travel outside the “Common Travel Area” (CTA) before the decision is made on your application, your application will be treated as withdrawn.

The CTA is:

UKRepublic of IrelandChannel IslandsIsle of Man

If the decision is made while you are outside the UK and your current leave has expired you will not have a right to return to the UK and you may be refused entry at the UK border."

I had hoped to travel over the Christmas holiday, but have only just submitted my application and haven't been to a new centre yet to submit my passport and other docs. So what now? Do I have to cancel my travel plans?

It does NOT apply to citizenship applications. It is only relevant to visa and immigration application!!

[Tnj1976]

Thanks very much CR001. Please bear in mind that with the new service (with Sopra Steria), it says in the link below that you may not travel until a decision is made, check out the link below.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... ce-centres

Under "Appointement" it says

"You may not be able to use your passport for travel until you have received a decision on your application."

It does also say you will in most case get your original supporting documents back including passport. So why do you think you won't be able to travel??

Further details re the new service:
"Waiting for a decision on your application

You should not leave the UK until you have received a decision on your application. If you travel outside the “Common Travel Area” (CTA) before the decision is made on your application, your application will be treated as withdrawn.

The CTA is:

UKRepublic of IrelandChannel IslandsIsle of Man

If the decision is made while you are outside the UK and your current leave has expired you will not have a right to return to the UK and you may be refused entry at the UK border."

I had hoped to travel over the Christmas holiday, but have only just submitted my application and haven't been to a new centre yet to submit my passport and other docs. So what now? Do I have to cancel my travel plans?

It does NOT apply to citizenship applications. It is only relevant to visa and immigration application!!

Ah, okay, that's great. (I'm new to this, as you may gather )

[melhaj]

Hello,

Could someone please help me with the following:

1- When do I fill and submit the "Apply for naturalisation as a British Citizen" form? In my case on January 8 2019 it's exactly 12 months since I got my ILR and I've been in the UK on that day 5 years ago. The new service shows that I need to book an appointment within 5 days of submission. So can I submit my application earlier than 8 January 2019?

2- In the form it asks: When did you first arrive in the UK? I got ILR on 8/01/2018 on 5 years rout. I first entered the UK to study on 25 August 2008 but went back home and then back to UK on 9 January 2009 to study at a different university as the first one didn't work for me, at that time you didn't need to get a new visa if you change university.

Thanks

I would appreciat it a lot if someone could help answering my questions please. I’ve been trying to get an answer but no one seems to have one. Especially on when I’m able to submit online application. Thanks

[Ancestor]

Hello,

Could someone please help me with the following:

1- When do I fill and submit the "Apply for naturalisation as a British Citizen" form? In my case on January 8 2019 it's exactly 12 months since I got my ILR and I've been in the UK on that day 5 years ago. The new service shows that I need to book an appointment within 5 days of submission. So can I submit my application earlier than 8 January 2019?

2- In the form it asks: When did you first arrive in the UK? I got ILR on 8/01/2018 on 5 years rout. I first entered the UK to study on 25 August 2008 but went back home and then back to UK on 9 January 2009 to study at a different university as the first one didn't work for me, at that time you didn't need to get a new visa if you change university.

Thanks

I would appreciat it a lot if someone could help answering my questions please. I’ve been trying to get an answer but no one seems to have one. Especially on when I’m able to submit online application. Thanks

It is all in the guidance notes. Date of Submission of Application is Date of Application and you have to have held ILR for at LEAST 12 months counting back from the Date of Submission.

[Zrj]

It does also say you will in most case get your original supporting documents back including passport. So why do you think you won't be able to travel??

Further details re the new service:
"Waiting for a decision on your application

You should not leave the UK until you have received a decision on your application. If you travel outside the “Common Travel Area” (CTA) before the decision is made on your application, your application will be treated as withdrawn.

The CTA is:

UKRepublic of IrelandChannel IslandsIsle of Man

If the decision is made while you are outside the UK and your current leave has expired you will not have a right to return to the UK and you may be refused entry at the UK border."

I had hoped to travel over the Christmas holiday, but have only just submitted my application and haven't been to a new centre yet to submit my passport and other docs. So what now? Do I have to cancel my travel plans?

It does NOT apply to citizenship applications. It is only relevant to visa and immigration application!!

Ah, okay, that's great. (I'm new to this, as you may gather )

Are you sure it doesn't apply to citizenship applications? How do you know?

[Ancestor]

Further details re the new service:
"Waiting for a decision on your application

You should not leave the UK until you have received a decision on your application. If you travel outside the “Common Travel Area” (CTA) before the decision is made on your application, your application will be treated as withdrawn.

The CTA is:

UKRepublic of IrelandChannel IslandsIsle of Man

If the decision is made while you are outside the UK and your current leave has expired you will not have a right to return to the UK and you may be refused entry at the UK border."

I had hoped to travel over the Christmas holiday, but have only just submitted my application and haven't been to a new centre yet to submit my passport and other docs. So what now? Do I have to cancel my travel plans?

It does NOT apply to citizenship applications. It is only relevant to visa and immigration application!!

Ah, okay, that's great. (I'm new to this, as you may gather )

Are you sure it doesn't apply to citizenship applications? How do you know?

It doesn't as advised, it is a generic statement and Nationality and Immigration Law totally separate.

The statement

If the decision is made while you are outside the UK and your current leave has expired

refers to "current leave has expired" and settled status does not expire and can only be cancelled if you away for 2 years.

The only risk whilst awaiting a decision is not picking up any possible mail and not responding within any deadlines IF applicable or necessary and isn't there a deadline to submit documents by 5 days or so at a "new centre" I thought I had read and you get them back on the new process?

Trust me, CR001 knows and is a knowlegeable Moderator like they all are.

[tancolocsiga]

Further details re the new service:
"Waiting for a decision on your application

You should not leave the UK until you have received a decision on your application. If you travel outside the “Common Travel Area” (CTA) before the decision is made on your application, your application will be treated as withdrawn.

The CTA is:

UKRepublic of IrelandChannel IslandsIsle of Man

If the decision is made while you are outside the UK and your current leave has expired you will not have a right to return to the UK and you may be refused entry at the UK border."

I had hoped to travel over the Christmas holiday, but have only just submitted my application and haven't been to a new centre yet to submit my passport and other docs. So what now? Do I have to cancel my travel plans?

It does NOT apply to citizenship applications. It is only relevant to visa and immigration application!!

Ah, okay, that's great. (I'm new to this, as you may gather )

Are you sure it doesn't apply to citizenship applications? How do you know?

I'm really not sure how people can be so confident to state this doesn't apply to citizenship applications. I wish they were right, but when I called the HO (I also have tickets home for Christmas), they said it's a new system so even though I have PR, they can't give me a definite answer and I should try calling them again maybe next week when they might know the answer to this. So until the HO can give you a definite yes or no, I wouldn't risk it just because someone in this forum said you're ok to travel (as knowledgable as I'm sure they are and please don't take this as an offence, whoever claimed this, it's just not very reassuring when the HO can't tell you for sure!)

[Discretion16]

I agree with the moderator, i have an Immigration adviser that will represent my British Citizenship application this December, i booked my flights to leave after they submit my application, he said that i am free to travel after my application has been lodged because my ILR don’t expire, so this doesn’t apply to me. I guess the only risk is if they asking for more documents and you can’t supply it in time incase you are out of the country.

[Ancestor]

I agree with the moderator, i have an Immigration adviser that will represent my British Citizenship application this December, i booked my flights to leave after they submit my application, he said that i am free to travel after my application has been lodged because my ILR don’t expire, so this doesn’t apply to me. I guess the only risk is if they asking for more documents and you can’t supply it in time incase you are out of the country.

Exactly, and as has been proven many times on the forum, the HO call center and now probably same with Sopra Steria have been known to get it wrong and read generic responses from script cards as they are not allowed to give immigration or naturalization law advice.

[tancolocsiga]

I agree with the moderator, i have an Immigration adviser that will represent my British Citizenship application this December, i booked my flights to leave after they submit my application, he said that i am free to travel after my application has been lodged because my ILR don’t expire, so this doesn’t apply to me. I guess the only risk is if they asking for more documents and you can’t supply it in time incase you are out of the country.

Exactly, and as has been proven many times on the forum, the HO call center and now probably same with Sopra Steria have been known to get it wrong and read generic responses from script cards as they are not allowed to give immigration or naturalization law advice.

I'm sure you're right but I'm too paranoid to just go on my travel when on the gov.uk the paragraph is very black and white in saying your application will be withdrawn if you travel. it doesn't say what type of application. So how can you guarantee that that won't happen? I just don't want to waste the £1300 fee and potentially damage my future chances!

[Ancestor]

I agree with the moderator, i have an Immigration adviser that will represent my British Citizenship application this December, i booked my flights to leave after they submit my application, he said that i am free to travel after my application has been lodged because my ILR don’t expire, so this doesn’t apply to me. I guess the only risk is if they asking for more documents and you can’t supply it in time incase you are out of the country.

Exactly, and as has been proven many times on the forum, the HO call center and now probably same with Sopra Steria have been known to get it wrong and read generic responses from script cards as they are not allowed to give immigration or naturalization law advice.

I'm sure you're right but I'm too paranoid to just go on my travel when on the gov.uk the paragraph is very black and white in saying your application will be withdrawn if you travel. it doesn't say what type of application. So how can you guarantee that that won't happen? I just don't want to waste the £1300 fee and potentially damage my future chances!

Your choice at the end of the day, me personally as a pedantic accountant I would go with what Discretion16 above and CR001 below have advised.

It does NOT apply to citizenship applications. It is only relevant to visa and immigration application!!

What I do know is that that statement is generic and applies to all applications which includes all visa categories, permanent settlement (ILR) and naturalisation and what I do know is that ILR DOES NOT EXPIRE as other limited leave Visa categories do, so as long as you have retained your travel documentation and/or BRP, then no problem.

As I said, the only risk is that if they require more info and you do not pick up the request and respond timeously then you may have a problem.

Life is full of choices, as I said, your choice how you wish to handle, no worry.

[samsindo]

Hi all,

I wanted to be fully sure about travelling while waiting for a decision, so I contacted the Home Office because I made an application on the 14/11/2018 and I am hoping to travel for the Christmas holidays.

The lady said "it's up to you to travel as long as you have the right document to get you back in". Since I hold an ILR, I think it will be fine in my case.

As the guys mentioned it only becomes critical if you miss reading post letters requesting further documents or a letter requesting you to contact the local authority to arrange a ceremony following a citizenship approval. In a citizenship approval letter, it says you must contact your local authority within 21 days, which may be tight for someone away during the holidays.

I am planning to let a friend check my posts to inform me in case I receive a letter from HO while I am away.