Sent back from Dublin Ireland

[Lalitha]

Hi Everyone,

I'm in need of some advice.

I am eligible to apply for UK ILR as I have completed 5 years on my work permit Tier 2 General. I have noticed that we need to submit the travel dates / tickets etc on the application form. I am confused because I have a situation to address but I don't know the best way of doing this.

3 years ago my boyfriend and I went to Dublin,Ireland from Holyhead, UK on IrishFerries. We read through the visa rules for Ireland. I thought that I can go without a visa because I had a 3 year work permit which is a classified as long-term visa. Ireland visa rules said that if you have a long term UK visa, you can go to Ireland without a visa. So we went and there was no visa check from the port at Holyhead so I was not stopped at the exit. After reaching Dublin, I was not allowed to enter because I didnt have a visa. I explained to the officials there that it was a mistake in understanding the visa requirements. They were kind enough to not stamp on my passport and I was sent back on the ferry the same day.

I didn't have any problems in entering England but the next time I travelled to France (obviously I had schengen), upon return I was questioned about the previous trip I made to Ireland. I answered them whatever that happened and I was allowed to enter UK. But this happened twice or thrice whenever I traveled abroad that they questioned me at the arrivals back in the UK about the Dublin travel.

So - Question is:
Should I mention the travel to Ireland on my ILR application form?
Or is it okay to not include the travel date to ireland seeing that it has already been 3 years and no one questions me now at the point of departure or arrivals.
Also I didn't enter Ireland, i was just sent back with no stamp on passport.
At times I would think I should mention, at times I think it is not needed but I think some professional advice on this would be much helpful.

Please suggest what to do.

Thank you

-Lalli

[aman90]

Hi Everyone,

I'm in need of some advice.

I am eligible to apply for UK ILR as I have completed 5 years on my work permit Tier 2 General. I have noticed that we need to submit the travel dates / tickets etc on the application form. I am confused because I have a situation to address but I don't know the best way of doing this.

3 years ago my boyfriend and I went to Dublin,Ireland from Holyhead, UK on IrishFerries. We read through the visa rules for Ireland. I thought that I can go without a visa because I had a 3 year work permit which is a classified as long-term visa. Ireland visa rules said that if you have a long term UK visa, you can go to Ireland without a visa. So we went and there was no visa check from the port at Holyhead so I was not stopped at the exit. After reaching Dublin, I was not allowed to enter because I didnt have a visa. I explained to the officials there that it was a mistake in understanding the visa requirements. They were kind enough to not stamp on my passport and I was sent back on the ferry the same day.

I didn't have any problems in entering England but the next time I travelled to France (obviously I had schengen), upon return I was questioned about the previous trip I made to Ireland. I answered them whatever that happened and I was allowed to enter UK. But this happened twice or thrice whenever I traveled abroad that they questioned me at the arrivals back in the UK about the Dublin travel.

So - Question is:
Should I mention the travel to Ireland on my ILR application form?
Or is it okay to not include the travel date to ireland seeing that it has already been 3 years and no one questions me now at the point of departure or arrivals.
Also I didn't enter Ireland, i was just sent back with no stamp on passport.
At times I would think I should mention, at times I think it is not needed but I think some professional advice on this would be much helpful.

Please suggest what to do.

Thank you

-Lalli

You didn't enter Ireland so you didn't leave UK? Did you go through immigration on ur return to UK?
It can't be considered an absence coz you technically didn't leave UK. Seems like a non issue to me. The leaving/arrival dates are not counted in absences calculation. Neither did you leave or arrive..
The only issue is that you were denied entry. That you should mention if at any point asked in the application.

[CULLINAN]

Just wanted to add on what aman said.

You are not supposed to mention it as an absence as it does not count as one (departure and arrival date is not counted anyways)

This is for sure that immigration has it as highlighted in their system that is why they question you everytime at UK arrival.

You will have to mention Ireland in the visa denied question as it is a must. The form will allow you to explain the reason so you can explain there and clarify yourself.

[bizman]

I think it’s better you mention it and be clear about it. It costs nothing to do so

[Lalitha]

Hi Everyone,

I'm in need of some advice.

I am eligible to apply for UK ILR as I have completed 5 years on my work permit Tier 2 General. I have noticed that we need to submit the travel dates / tickets etc on the application form. I am confused because I have a situation to address but I don't know the best way of doing this.

3 years ago my boyfriend and I went to Dublin,Ireland from Holyhead, UK on IrishFerries. We read through the visa rules for Ireland. I thought that I can go without a visa because I had a 3 year work permit which is a classified as long-term visa. Ireland visa rules said that if you have a long term UK visa, you can go to Ireland without a visa. So we went and there was no visa check from the port at Holyhead so I was not stopped at the exit. After reaching Dublin, I was not allowed to enter because I didnt have a visa. I explained to the officials there that it was a mistake in understanding the visa requirements. They were kind enough to not stamp on my passport and I was sent back on the ferry the same day.

I didn't have any problems in entering England but the next time I travelled to France (obviously I had schengen), upon return I was questioned about the previous trip I made to Ireland. I answered them whatever that happened and I was allowed to enter UK. But this happened twice or thrice whenever I traveled abroad that they questioned me at the arrivals back in the UK about the Dublin travel.

So - Question is:
Should I mention the travel to Ireland on my ILR application form?
Or is it okay to not include the travel date to ireland seeing that it has already been 3 years and no one questions me now at the point of departure or arrivals.
Also I didn't enter Ireland, i was just sent back with no stamp on passport.
At times I would think I should mention, at times I think it is not needed but I think some professional advice on this would be much helpful.

Please suggest what to do.

Thank you

-Lalli

You didn't enter Ireland so you didn't leave UK? Did you go through immigration on ur return to UK?
It can't be considered an absence coz you technically didn't leave UK. Seems like a non issue to me. The leaving/arrival dates are not counted in absences calculation. Neither did you leave or arrive..
The only issue is that you were denied entry. That you should mention if at any point asked in the application.

Hi Aman,
Thanks very much for the response.
There wasn't a immigration because I travelled on a Ferry. No immigration at Holyhead when I went and I returned. So yes, I didnt leave UK or enter Ireland technically but the next time i took a flight i was questioned at immigration. This happened twice but then later they removed the flag. This happened in 2015 and I applied for Tier 2 extension in 2016 without mentioning this scenario in the refused entry question and it was all fine. Do you still think I need to mention this. Please tell me the possibility of them rejecting my application if I state this?

I am little worried.

[Lalitha]

I think it’s better you mention it and be clear about it. It costs nothing to do so

Thanks for the response. Much appreciated

[Lalitha]

Just wanted to add on what aman said.

You are not supposed to mention it as an absence as it does not count as one (departure and arrival date is not counted anyways)

This is for sure that immigration has it as highlighted in their system that is why they question you everytime at UK arrival.

You will have to mention Ireland in the visa denied question as it is a must. The form will allow you to explain the reason so you can explain there and clarify yourself.

Thanks for the response. Much appreciated

[Lalitha]

Please can some one advise a bit more.

Thanks for the help.

- Lalli

[CULLINAN]

Please can some one advise a bit more.

Thanks for the help.

- Lalli

You should mention it and provide the reason.

[bizman]

It’s really not a problem, just mention it as earlier said