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Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:35 am

i submitted my application in Nov. i did my postgraduate study in UK, got my degree in 2018. I paid naric but then they refunded me the money as they only domfor overseas degree. So i submitted my application using it. To my surprise i got an email from them saying that they need letter from naric and i need to submit it within 5 days else they will make the decision based ln what they already have. i replied by saying that my degree was from Univ in UK and so i dont need a letter from naric again. but then she replied that they can't accept it as prove of english. so either i submit letter from naric or take english test and she extend it for 2 weeks. i managed to get the test tomorrow so it is not a big problem, except that i have to spend additional £150 and train tickets.

but i still wondering if that is how it suppose to be? if I graduate from UK why can' t i use my degree as prove of my english compatency?

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by zimba » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:09 am

The immigration rules appendix KoLL part 2 very clearly says that an applicant satisfies the English language requirement if the applicant has obtained an academic qualification (not a professional or vocational qualification) which either:

(1) is a UK Bachelor’s degree, Master’s degree or PhD; or
(2) is deemed by UK NARIC to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree or PhD in the UK, from an educational establishment in one of the following countries: Antigua and Barbuda; Australia; The Bahamas; Barbados; Belize; Dominica; Grenada; Guyana; Ireland; Jamaica; New Zealand; St Kitts and Nevis; St Lucia; St Vincent and The Grenadines; Trinidad and Tobago; the UK; the USA; and provides the specified documents;

So having a UK Masters degree will be enough without a need for NARIC certificate (and ofcourse NARIC does not provide a certificate for UK degrees at all) However it is very IMPORTANT to remember that a professional or vocational qualification is NOT acceptable :!:
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:08 am

If I were you, because of the caseworker’s ignorance I will write the test and get my ILR and then claim for a refund of my English language test and train ticket.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:08 am

From HO
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:03 am

i have passed the test, so i emailed them the provisional certificate and enquiry once again regarding this, and she firmly stated it is not accepted.

Unfortunately we could not accept your UK Postgraduate certificate as evidence of English Language but as you have now passed a Secure English Language Test at Trinity College London we will wait for you to send in the certificate before we make a decision on your application.

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Where and how can you reclaim this?

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:19 am

i have a chat with the staff at the test centre and they told me that it is a new rule since 2015 that english test or naric is required even for uk graduate

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by CR001 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:43 am

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i have a chat with the staff at the test centre and they told me that it is a new rule since 2015 that english test or naric is required even for uk graduate
Absolute nonsense. A UK degree is acceptable to meet the English requirement.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by CULLINAN » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:22 am

This CW seems to be really ignorant. You should file an official complaint and ask for a refund after your application is approved. The UK Master’s Degree is definitely accepted. I used that at my extension and it was accepted.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by CR001 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:24 am

apiapiaba wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:03 am
i have passed the test, so i emailed them the provisional certificate and enquiry once again regarding this, and she firmly stated it is not accepted.

Unfortunately we could not accept your UK Postgraduate certificate as evidence of English Language but as you have now passed a Secure English Language Test at Trinity College London we will wait for you to send in the certificate before we make a decision on your application.

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Where and how can you reclaim this?
Perhaps you can clarify. Did you pass all the processes, modules, etc and get a MASTERS degree or did you miss something or not pass something or not complete something and you only got a Certificate of whatever/something.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:39 am

This is real ignorance in the part of the CW. Well just wait till you have your certificate and send it. At least he has confronted wait till the certificate arrives.

Ensure you request for your refund along with damages after you have been approved. It’s an unusual behaviour of the CW. As a matter of fact so many people got their ILR in the last couple of weeks with their UK degree, so I wonder what’s wrong with this one.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:40 am

Sorry He has confirmed that he will wait.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:55 pm

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Perhaps you can clarify. Did you pass all the processes, modules, etc and get a MASTERS degree or did you miss something or not pass something or not complete something and you only got a Certificate of whatever/something.
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passed everything and got official master degree certificate from reputable univ in uk

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:20 pm

It’s really absurd a CW can make this kind of blunder. Which test can be better than a UK degree to confirm English Language.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by srsw » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:53 pm

This does seem quite bizarre.

@apiapiaba just out of curiosity, what master degree did you pursue? Let us know only if you feel comfortable, btw.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:28 pm

Profesional Academic Practice

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by CR001 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:33 pm

apiapiaba wrote:
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Profesional Academic Practice
Are you sure it is a proper Masters Degree and not just a Pg Cert???

https://www.google.co.uk/search?source= ... YCOKglRZH0

https://www.uwl.ac.uk/course/profession ... tice/36185
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by zimba » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:43 pm

Professional qualification are NOT acceptable even if they are awarded as Masters or MAs.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:49 pm

If it’s a professional qualification equivalent to Masters, you should have done a NARIC verification of it. That would have solved the question as UK Masters degree can not be contented.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by CULLINAN » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:00 pm

The CW is right then.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:39 am

it is rewarded as MA and equivalent as master degree so i can't understand why it can't be accepted. but never mind, it is not a big deal

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:54 am

It’s good you share details because of others etc. We help ourselves on this platform
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:04 am

okay.. application approved today. but it seems that there is some error. should i complain or is it ok toleave it be ?i didnot pay for super priority service, just the standard one

this morning
I am pleased to confirm that your application for indefinite leave has now been granted. You will receive your decision letter in due course which will explain your leave in more detail.

Your Biometric Residence Permit (BRP) may take up to 10 working days to be delivered from the date of this email. If it does not arrive after 10 working days please contact us via the following link: https://www.gov.uk/biometric-residence- ... ot-arrived.

just now
Your application was decided on 26 February 2019 but unfortunately this was not within the 24-hour service standard for super priority applications. I am sorry for the delay in dealing with your application and for the inconvenience this may have caused.

We will refund the super priority element of the fee you paid (the difference between the cost of making a standard application and a super priority application). We will refund the amount of £1830 ( 3 x £610) to your credit or debit card in due course.

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by aman90 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:36 am

Wait n see if you actually receive the refund..
once you do..advise them of the mistake and offer to return it..as a moral obligation.

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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by bizman » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:15 pm

Yes it’s an error. They might see and correct it. The money might not be paid to your account. If it is paid then you have to refund it.
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Re: Master degree from UK university was rejected as prove of English

Post by apiapiaba » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:37 pm

it is not there yet, and there is another error. rcvd email this afternoon from home office that it is still under consideration. i am not sure which one is correct.

"We are emailing you to confirm that your recent Home Office application is still under consideration and we expect to make a decision within 6 months of the date of your application, which is our service standard. If we are unable to process your application within 6 months we will tell you as soon as possible.

Our web page contains further information about our service standards and other information that you may find helpful with regard to your application.

If there is a change in your circumstances, please contact us using this link: https://www.gov.uk/change-circumstances-visa-brp

You will be notified of the outcome of your application in writing"

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