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Re: Settlement Visa Applications - INDIA TIMELINES ONLY

Post by arnieghk » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:55 am

Type of visa: Spouse settlement (Husband), wife is a British citizen
Priority/Non-Priority: Priority, Bangalore, India
Applicant Status: Permanent resident of Hong Kong, working for a Hong Kong company
Online Application Submitted: 13 Jan 2019
Bio-metrics taken: 21st Jan 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 21st Jan 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 22nd Jan 2019 (as per VFS since I used their courier service)
Acknowledgment Email from UKVI: N/A
Documents returned to VFS: 7th of Feb 2019
Call from VFS regarding returned documents collection: 7th of Feb 2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an ECO: 7th of Feb 2019
Documents collected from UKVI: 8th of Feb 2019
Sponsor or applicant contacted by UKVI: No
Case not straightforward email: No
Decision made email from UKVI: No
VFS Text for passport delivery: 21st Feb 2019
Passport Delivered to home address: 22nd February 2019 (25 working days from biometrics)
Date of letter stating successful application sent with passport: 19th of Feb 2019 (22 working days from biometrics)

30 day vignette visa valid from 28th Feb 2019 to 30th March 2019.

Good luck to everyone who is waiting for their decision! :)

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Post by brij_amin » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:30 am

Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Priority, Ahmedabad, India
Online Application Submitted : 26 January, 2019
Bio-metrics taken: 29 Jan 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 04 Feb 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 05 Feb 2019
Documents returned: 09 Feb 2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 13 Feb 2019
Sponsor contacted by UKVI : No
Case not straightforward email - N/A
Decision made email from UKVI: 01 march 2019
VFS Text for pas sport collection: 01 march 2019 (24 working days)
Passport Collected: 04 march 2019
Visa status : GRANTED :D

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Post by Sumit_chopra » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:47 pm

Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Non-Priority, jalandhar, India
Online Application Submitted : 17 January, 2019
Bio-metrics taken: 22 Jan 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 28 jan 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 29 jan 2019
Documents returned: 26 Feb 2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 18 Feb 2019
Sponsor contacted by UKVI : yes they called me 1 March but I saw only missed call . I was on work. Now I am waiting for call from 5 days.
Case not straightforward email -
Decision made email from UKVI:
VFS Text for pas sport collection:
Passport Collected:

Update soon. All the best every one.

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Post by Sumit_chopra » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:50 pm

Sumit_chopra wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:47 pm
Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Non-Priority, jalandhar, India
Online Application Submitted : 17 January, 2019
Bio-metrics taken: 22 Jan 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 28 jan 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 29 jan 2019
Documents returned: 26 Feb 2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 18 Feb 2019
Sponsor contacted by UKVI : 1 march yes they called me 1 March but I saw only missed call . I was on work. Now I am waiting for call from 5 days.
Case not straightforward email - no email
Decision made email from UKVI: got mail decision made on 8 March 2019
VFS Text for pas sport collection:
Passport Collected:

Thanks all team of decision make. Prove decision of my application. I will update decision soon. 😊😊 All the best every one.

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Post by Sumit_chopra » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:15 pm

Sumit_chopra wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:50 pm
Sumit_chopra wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:47 pm
Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Non-Priority, jalandhar, India
Online Application Submitted : 17 January, 2019
Bio-metrics taken: 22 Jan 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 28 jan 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 29 jan 2019
Documents returned: 26 Feb 2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 18 Feb 2019
Sponsor contacted by UKVI : 1 march yes they called me 1 March but I saw only missed call . I was on work. Now I am waiting for call from 5 days.
Case not straightforward email - no email
Decision made email from UKVI: got mail decision made on 8 March 2019
VFS Text for pas sport collection:11 March 2019
Passport Collected: 12 March 2019

Got visa
😊😊 All the best every one.

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Post by vkmallick » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:53 pm

Fiance Visa Timeline
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Applicant: Indian (male)
Sponsor: British (Female)

Applying from: Mumbai North

Visa Type: Fiance Visa (6 month settlement visa)

Non priority

Online App: 30 December 2018
Biometrics: 3 January 2019
Docs received in Sheffield: 11 January 2019
Docs returned to sponsor from Sheffield: 25 January 2019
Email from Sheffield: 3 February 2019 "application is being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer...." (seems like a standard email)

Sponsor called Sheffield for an update: 11 February 2019 - I was told nothing more then the status of the application "awaiting decision"

Emailed local MP: 27 February 2019 - despite it not being 60 days we decided to write to the local MP anyway to make them aware of our case and to ask whether he could assist in any way. He responded the same day that he will try and help.

Email Sheffield: 28 February 2019 - we emailed Sheffield asking for an update. You pay just over £5 but can email numerous times for updates so we figured this is the best option. We got a standard reply that we are "awaiting a decision" - nothing out of the ordinary. We followed up with further emails asking for updates on 5 March, 7 March and the 8 March. Given no new information but they always emailed us back within 1-2 days.

14 March 2019 - DAY 50 - Both the sponsor and applicant received an email that we have been requested to attend interviews. Both interviews will be conducted over the phone. Interview's will be separate but at the exact same time. We will be asked the same questions and then our answers will be compared. Questions will be regarding: application, applicants travel history and most importantly our relationship. Interview will be conducted in about a week so still within the 60 day timeline!!!!

Awaiting ......will UPDATE !!!!

Hope this is helpful for some of you

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Post by goodw394 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:52 pm

goodw394 wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:21 pm
Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Priority, VFS Chennai
Online Application Submitted: 23/01/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 30/01/2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 30/01/2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 31/01/2019
Documents returned: 13/02/2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 13/02/2019
Employer contacted by UKVI: No
Sponsor contacted by UKVI: No
Case not straightforward email: No
Decision made email from UKVI: Not Yet
VFS Text for passport collection: Not Yet
Passport Collected:
Status: Decision Awaited
contacted UKVI call center a few times for update and was informed that the decision was made on 6.3.19 but havent received any written confirmation from UKVI or passport collection text from VFS till date. :( :cry: :x :?

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Post by Ben11 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:25 pm

Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Priority, Bangalore, India
Online Application Submitted : 12/02/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 14/02/2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 14/02/2019 (via vfs courier service)
Documents received at Sheffield: 18/02/2019
Acknowledgment Email from UKVI: None
Documents returned: 01/03/2019 (collected from vfs on 04/03/2019)
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 06/03/2019
Sponsor contacted by UKVI : No
Case not straightforward email - No
Decision made email from UKVI: No
VFS Text for passport collection: 19/03/2019 (23 working days)
Passport Collected: 22/03/2019

30 day vignette visa, Good luck to all and continue helping each other.

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Post by Rhenu » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:25 am

Country applied from - India , Chennai (VFS)
Visa type - Settlement - Spouse and dependant child (step child for sponsor)
Priority/Standard: Priority
Date biometrics taken: Jan 10th 2019 at VFS Chennai
Application forwarded to UKVI text from VFS :10th Jan 2019
Date documentation was sent to Sheffield UKVI: 10th Jan 2019 ( doc sent along with application )
Date documentation received by Sheffield UKVI: not known
Email received from Sheffield that case was being considered by case officer : 30 Jan 2019
Documents returned : 05 February 2019
Request for additional financial doc of Sponsor sent to applicant mail - 11 February 2019( given 10 working days to send the docs as scanned copies)
Was travelling so cudn send it immediately . It took a week for us to send the requested docs.
Received another email on 16th Feb 2019 that they sent wrong email to send docs and now sent the correct email id
Sent scanned docs on : 18 February 2019
IHS payment link received for child - 25 February 2019( payment made on same day)
Confirmation from IHS also received on same day.
Called UKVI to check status - 28 Feb ( told decision was made on both applications)
Passport received text from VFS - 01 Mar 2019
Passport received for spouse at house address :2nd Mar 2019
Passport received for child - 04 Mar 2019

Visa approved for spouse and child
Vignette - 08 Mar 2019 - 07 Apr 2019
:D
38 working days from biometric
Hope you find it helpful.

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Post by Sumit_sam » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:07 am

Sharing my timelines below :
Type of visa applied for:Settlement, Husband.
Priority/Non-Priority: Standard, VFS Chandigarh, India
Online Application Completed: 16/01/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 17/01/2019
Documents sent to Sheffield from UK-- 21/01/19
Documents received at Sheffield: 22/01/19.
Documents returned: 07/02/19
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 14/02/19.
Email requesting additional documents by UKVI (if applicable): 27/02/19 like photographs, WhatsApp Calls, conversation etc, gave 10 days to send
Documents sent via Email: 08/03/19.
Case not straightforward email - NO
Decision made email from UKVI: Awaiting!!!
Pls keep praying!! 🙏
Anybody in similar situation, pls do share your timelines... as it really help others to pass through this tough phase. Thanks

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Post by CR001 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:53 am

@shaharsh Please respect that this is a TIMELINE THREAD ONLY. Any questions posts have been and will be removed.
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Post by saif123 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:12 am

Hello all i am new on this.
Please i really need some advice im stressed out soo much i have applied for spouse visa please see below:
NON PRIORITY
Applied 13th january 2019
biometrics 17th january 2019
documents received @ Sheffield on the 21st january 2019
documents returned 6th february 2019
email received it will be forwarded to ECO on the 14th february 2019
this isnt my 1st application has been refused before.
i am sick and worried somebody please give me some advice.

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Post by Sumit_sam » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:52 am

Updates :

Additional documents request received 27 Feb 2019 from UKVI,,, documents fetched and sent dated 08 March 2019.

Today is 50th day from date of application and still counting...

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Post by Shakshi » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:24 am

Hi me also in same boat
My 1st application was refused on 7th Jan 2019
😭😭😭
Country applying from: Sri Lanka
Type of visa applied for: Settlement - Wife
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority
Online Application Completed: 13 Jan 2019
Biometric taken: 16 Jan, 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 28 Jan, 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 29 jan 2019
Email from UKVI: 'Application being prepared for ECO consideration on 14th Feb, 2019
Application not straightforward on 21st March 2019
Sponsor contacted by UKVI (if applicable): No
Documents returned: 7 feb 2019
Decision made email from UKVI: No
Decision made text from VFS :
Passport collected/delivered:

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Post by Moorthy » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:58 am

My 1st application was refused on 4th May 2018

Country applying from: Sri Lanka
Type of visa applied for: Settlement - Wife
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority
Online Application Completed: 18 Jan 2019
Biometric taken: 21 Jan, 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 08 Feb 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 11 Feb 2019
Email from UKVI: 'Application being prepared for ECO consideration on 15 Feb, 2019
Application not straightforward on 27 March 2019
Employer contacted by UKVI: No yet
Sponsor contacted by UKVI: No yet
Decision made email from UKVI: Not yet

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Post by Remm » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:08 pm

Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority, VFS Pune
Online Application Submitted: 29/01/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 31/01/2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 11/02/2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 12/02/2019
Documents returned: -
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 19/02/2019
Employer contacted by UKVI: No
Sponsor contacted by UKVI: No
Case not straightforward email: No
Decision made email from UKVI: Not Yet
VFS Text for passport collection: Not Yet
Passport Collected:
Status: Decision Awaited

40 WD since Biometric App

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Post by CR001 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:09 am

saif123 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:58 am
Please respect that this is a TIMELINE THREAD ONLY. Any questions posts have been and will be removed.
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Post by Shakshi » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:13 am

[quote=Shakshi post_id=1760823 time=1553667887 user_id=215084]
Hi me also in same boat
My 1st application was refused on 7th Jan 2019
😭😭😭
Country applying from: Sri Lanka
Type of visa applied for: Settlement - Wife
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority
Online Application Completed: 13 Jan 2019
Biometric taken: 16 Jan, 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 28 Jan, 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 29 jan 2019
Email from UKVI: 'Application being prepared for ECO consideration on 14th Feb, 2019
Application not straightforward on 21st March 2019
Sponsor contacted by UKVI (if applicable): No
Documents returned: 7 feb 2019
Decision made email from UKVI: No
Decision made text from VFS :
Passport collected/delivered:

Update 52 WD completed very worried 😧

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Post by CR001 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:54 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:53 am
@shaharsh Please respect that this is a TIMELINE THREAD ONLY. Any questions posts have been and will be removed.
If you persist in ignoring the rule for TIMELINE ONLY topics, your access to the forum will be restricted!!!!
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Post by vkmallick » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:56 pm

Applicant: Indian (male)
Sponsor: British (Female)

Applying from: Mumbai North

Visa Type: Fiance Visa (6 month settlement visa)

Non priority

Online App: 30 December 2018
Biometrics: 3 January 2019
Docs received in Sheffield: 11 January 2019
Docs returned to sponsor from Sheffield: 25 January 2019
Email from Sheffield: 3 February 2019 "application is being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer...." (seems like a standard email)

Sponsor called Sheffield for an update: 11 February 2019 - I was told nothing more then the status of the application "awaiting decision"

Emailed local MP: 27 February 2019 - despite it not being 60 days we decided to write to the local MP anyway to make them aware of our case and to ask whether he could assist in any way. He responded the same day that he will try and help.

Email Sheffield: 28 February 2019 - we emailed Sheffield asking for an update. You pay just over £5 but can email numerous times for updates so we figured this is the best option. We got a standard reply that we are "awaiting a decision" - nothing out of the ordinary. We followed up with further emails asking for updates on 5 March, 7 March and the 8 March. Given no new information but they always emailed us back within 1-2 days.

14 March 2019 - DAY 50 - Both the sponsor and applicant received an email that we have been requested to attend interviews. Both interviews will be conducted over the phone. Interview's will be separate but at the exact same time. We will be asked the same questions and then our answers will be compared. Questions will be regarding: application, applicants travel history and most importantly our relationship. Interview will be conducted in about a week so still within the 60 day timeline!!!!

22 March 2019 - Interview conducted: Both of us were interviewed separately on the phone, at exactly the same time, we got asked the same questions

25 March 2019 - Received the classic "not straight forward" automated email. We have contacted the local MP as well as Sheffield asking them what is going on. Apparently they are doing some "mandatory checks" ...does anyone know what these mandatory checks are?

1 April 2019 - DAY 62 .....STILL WAITING !!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Moorthy » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:57 am

My 1st application was refused on 4th May 2018

Country applying from: Sri Lanka
Type of visa applied for: Settlement - Wife
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority
Online Application Completed: 18 Jan 2019
Biometric taken: 21 Jan, 2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 08 Feb 2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 11 Feb 2019
Email from UKVI: 'Application being prepared for ECO consideration on 15 Feb, 2019
Application not straightforward on 27 March 2019
Employer contacted by UKVI: No yet
Sponsor contacted by UKVI: No yet
Decision made email from UKVI: Not yet
Today is 53rd day from biometric

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Post by Sumit_sam » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:08 am

Sharing my timelines below :
Type of visa applied for:Settlement, Husband.
Priority/Non-Priority: Standard, VFS Chandigarh, India
Online Application Completed: 16/01/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 17/01/2019
Documents sent to Sheffield from UK-- 21/01/19
Documents received at Sheffield: 22/01/19.
Documents returned: 07/02/19
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 14/02/19.
Email requesting additional documents by UKVI (if applicable): 27/02/19 like photographs, WhatsApp Calls, conversation etc, gave 10 days to send
Documents sent via Email: 08/03/19.
Case not straightforward email - NO
Decision made email from UKVI: Awaiting!!!
Pls keep praying!! 🙏

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Sumit_sam wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:52 am
Updates :

Additional documents request received 27 Feb 2019 from UKVI,,, documents fetched and sent dated 08 March 2019.

Today is 50th day from date of application and still counting...
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Hi All

Its 56th day today.....still waiting !!!!
Please pray for each other.✋✋✋

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Post by praish » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:08 pm

Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority, VFS chennai
Online Application Submitted: 01/02/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 01/03/2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 08/03/2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 11/03/2019
Documents returned: - 18/03/2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": No
Employer contacted by UKVI: No
Sponsor contacted by UKVI: No
Case not straightforward email: No
Decision made email from UKVI: Not Yet
VFS Text for passport collection: Not Yet
Passport Collected:
Status: Decision Awaited

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Post by saif123 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:42 pm

Just received email today, case not straight forward
I am soooo scared does this mean i have to wait a year :cry :cry:
Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement / Husband
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority,
Online Application Submitted: 13/01/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 17/01/2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 21/01/2019
Documents returned: 06/02/2019
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 14/02/2019
Employer contacted by UKVI: No
Sponsor contacted by UKVI: No
Case not straightforward email: 05/04/2019
Decision made email from UKVI:
VFS Text for passport collection:
Passport Collected:
Status:

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Post by Remm » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:45 pm

Update
Type of visa applied for: Spouse settlement
Priority/Non-Priority: Non Priority, VFS Pune
Online Application Submitted: 29/01/2019
Bio-metrics taken: 31/01/2019
Documents sent to Sheffield: 11/02/2019
Documents received at Sheffield: 12/02/2019
Documents returned: -
Email stating "Your Application is currently being prepared for consideration by an Entry Clearance Officer": 19/02/2019
Employer contacted by UKVI: No
Sponsor contacted by UKVI: No
Case not straightforward email: No
Decision made email from UKVI: Not Yet
VFS Text for passport collection: Not Yet
Passport Collected:
Status: Decision Awaited

46 WD since Biometric App
Still not heard anything and have noticed a lot of people getting emails so later on towards the end of there 12 weeks saying case is not straightforward making me so worried 😟
Also my documents have still not come back and I have noticed a lot of people receiving there documents back much earlier on

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