Tier 1 Worldwide from 30 June, 2008 !!??

CoolestGuyC · Post by **CoolestGuyC** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:30 pm

Please read the following statement of changes:

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... iew=Binary

Particularly page 32, paragraph 7.28:

7.28 This Statement of Changes deletes the following routes from the Immigration Rules:
7.28.1 The Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (which has already been deleted incountry
and for applications made in India);
7.28.2 Investors (the old route that appeared in paragraphs 224-229 of the Immigration
Rules);
7.28.3 Businesspersons;
7.28.4 Writers, Composers and Artists;
7.28.5 International Graduates Scheme;
7.28.6 Innovators;
7.28.7 Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland.

Post by **geriatrix** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:53 pm

Looks like it is going to happen, after all.

The following states it even more clearly!

Page 32 (of 42) Section 2.1 wrote:2.1 This Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules contains the following changes:
It fully implements Tier 1 of the Points Based System, introducing new provisions for highly skilled migrants, entrepreneurs, investors and recent graduates from UK universities.
Tier 1 was partly implemented by Statement of Changes HC321, which was laid before Parliament on 6 February. That Statement of Changes can be found at http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ofchanges/
Statement of Changes HC321 implemented the Tier 1 (General) route for highly skilled migrants applying in-country (from 29 February 2008) and in India (from 1 April 2008). It also made provision for their dependants.
This Statement of Changes extends Tier 1 (General) to applicants throughout the world, and introduces the three other subcategories of Tier 1: Tier 1 (Entrepreneur), Tier 1 (Investor) and Tier 1 (Post-Study Work), each in relation to applicants in the UK and globally.

Welcome citizens, to the world of Tier 1 (General) Point Based System - sponsored by UK government's esteemed and respected Bloody Insane Agency (BIA)

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regards

Post by **John** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:09 pm

Welcome citizens, to the world of Tier 1 (General) Point Based System - sponsored by UK government's esteemed and respected Bloody Insane Agency (BIA)

Arrh well, the BIA is no more, and has been renamed the UKBA ... UK Borders Agency. I would not like to guess what what words you might put to the initials UKBA????/

Post by **geriatrix** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:14 pm

How does Utterly Knackered Bloody Asses (UKBA) sound?? Have a obvious substitute for Bloody, but I believe in maintaining a healthy decorum here on the forum

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regards

hussainkothari · Post by **hussainkothari** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:56 am

Just a thought.. With T1 only in India and UK, their processing times are over 5 weeks. How do you think they would manage the rest of the world? Its unbelievable that they would be holding passports for more than 6+ weeks for many people. They and we are going to have a tough time!

rajesh9pl · Post by **rajesh9pl** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:46 pm

Has anyone enquired at local Visa center about these changes? Are they aware?

I have checked in Germany and they don't know anything about it.

Post by **geriatrix** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:56 pm

There hasn't been any public announcement from UKBA as yet. In all likelihood, BHCs, VFS and other VACs are aware of the upcoming transition but they will not formally acknowledge it unless UKBA makes a formal announcement to the effect.

regards

rajesh9pl wrote:Has anyone enquired at local Visa center about these changes? Are they aware?

I have checked in Germany and they don't know anything about it.

ulm · Post by **ulm** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:29 pm

Hi,

This is still unclear.

I have checked in BIA website as well as in the british embassy website of Germany. There is nothing mentioned when Tier1 GHSM will start in Germany

rajesh9pl · Post by **rajesh9pl** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:04 pm

sushdmehta wrote:There hasn't been any public announcement from UKBA as yet. In all likelihood, BHCs, VFS and other VACs are aware of the upcoming transition but they will not formally acknowledge it unless UKBA makes a formal announcement to the effect.

regards
rajesh9pl wrote:Has anyone enquired at local Visa center about these changes? Are they aware?

I have checked in Germany and they don't know anything about it.

I understand they would be aware. However, what applicants will do if their application is ready? Those who want to apply before 30th, have only one week.

Post by **John** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:41 pm

Please be aware of this Written Ministerial Statement. This mentions changes to the Immigration Rules, but I am currently failing to spot those details.

Post by **geriatrix** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:51 pm

UKBA might go for a suspension period (like they did when they introduced new rules for HSMP in Dec'06).

When Tier 1 was rolled out in UK and India, UKBA had announced the transition well in advance and probably that is why there was no suspension period as such. But if they are wanting to do it for the rest of world from 30-Jun (or around that), then there is hardly any time - so a suspension period could be something they are thinking of.

Anyhow, this is only speculation. We won't know until there is a formal annoucement.

regards

Post by **John** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:45 pm

Right, I have now spotted the following ... click here. That is probably the longest-ever change to the Immigration Rules .... 28 pages of changes, and then, starting on the 29th page, some explanations.

Having just had a read through it seems that the changes come into force on 30.06.08 ... in less than 2 weeks time. But because not yet in force, the wording of those changes not yet incorporated into the consolidated version of the Immigration Rules.

rajesh9pl · Post by **rajesh9pl** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:45 pm

John wrote:Right, I have now spotted the following ... click here. That is probably the longest-ever change to the Immigration Rules .... 28 pages of changes, and then, starting on the 29th page, some explanations.

Having just had a read through it seems that the changes come into force on 30.06.08 ... in less than 2 weeks time. But because not yet in force, the wording of those changes not yet incorporated into the consolidated version of the Immigration Rules.

Hi John,
I couldn't understand the point you have tried to make here. Are you saying these changes might not come into effect from 30th June because they are yet not published on BIA?

Cheers!
Rajesh.

Post by **John** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:00 pm

No I am not saying that. I am merely saying that the consolidated version of the Immigration Rules does not yet include the changes that will come into effect on 30.06.08.

Belchonok · Post by **Belchonok** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:15 pm

UKBA might go for a suspension period (like they did when they introduced new rules for HSMP in Dec'06).

When Tier 1 was rolled out in UK and India, UKBA had announced the transition well in advance and probably that is why there was no suspension period as such. But if they are wanting to do it for the rest of world from 30-Jun (or around that), then there is hardly any time - so a suspension period could be something they are thinking of.

Is such scenario really possible? how it may look like? if they are saying the Tier1 will roll out world-wide on 30th of June, then how this suspension would work? could they announce that HSMP closes at 30th of June for all countries but Tier1 for all countires (except India and UK) will start only, say, from 1st of Sept?..

Post by **John** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:34 pm

Having waded through the 28 pages of changes, that will come into force on 30.06.08, I have no reason to think that the changes will not take effect that day.

Also, specifically in the changes to the Immigration Rules :-

7.31 These Rules provide that any application made in the categories referred to at paragraphs 7.28 and 7.29 before this Statement comes into operation on 30 June will considered under the Rules in force on 29 June.

That is, any application made on the 29th June or earlier will be considered on the basis of the pre-change rules ..... the existing rules .... even if the application is dealt with on or after 30th June.

Can't see any need for a suspension period.

jen__ · Post by **jen__** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:54 pm

The New Zealand High Commission has stated that they will be processing Tier 1 applications from 30 June 2008:

"From 30 June, all new Tier 1 applications will be processed at the British High Commission in Wellington. Currently, applicants first have to apply to the UK for a Letter of Acceptance and then to the British High Commission for their visa. " - from their website.

Which annoys me, as I just sent my application in on Monday to the Home Office for the long wait for it to be approved.
Does this mean that I will receive entry clearance for 2 years or 3 years when I apply? As I will have a HSMP approval letter, and then apply for entry clearance.

Thanks

Post by **John** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:22 pm

As I posted earlier :-

any application made on the 29th June or earlier will be considered on the basis of the pre-change rules ..... the existing rules .... even if the application is dealt with on or after 30th June.

rajesh9pl · Post by **rajesh9pl** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:54 am

jen__ wrote:The New Zealand High Commission has stated that they will be processing Tier 1 applications from 30 June 2008:

"From 30 June, all new Tier 1 applications will be processed at the British High Commission in Wellington. Currently, applicants first have to apply to the UK for a Letter of Acceptance and then to the British High Commission for their visa. " - from their website.

Which annoys me, as I just sent my application in on Monday to the Home Office for the long wait for it to be approved.
Does this mean that I will receive entry clearance for 2 years or 3 years when I apply? As I will have a HSMP approval letter, and then apply for entry clearance.

Thanks

As per old process you will get HSMP approval for two years. However, validity of actual entry clearance will depend on when and where you will apply for EC. By the time you apply for EC in NZ, T1 will be in place and you will be charged and granted 3 years long visa. As it was done when T1 was implemented in India and UK.

CoolestGuyC · Post by **CoolestGuyC** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:07 am

Official news:

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/ne ... id=3778872

Post by **geriatrix** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:51 am

rajesh9pl wrote:As per old process you will get HSMP approval for two years. However, validity of actual entry clearance will depend on when and where you will apply for EC. By the time you apply for EC in NZ, T1 will be in place and you will be charged and granted 3 years long visa. As it was done when T1 was implemented in India and UK.

Well, the HSMP approval is just an approval - not an approval for X years. The validity of the HSMP approval is six months from the date of issue and one has to apply for EC within those 6 months, else the approval becomes invalid.

An EC granted on basis of HSMP (in absence of Tier 1 in the country) is for a max. of 2 years. An EC granted under Tier1 on basis of an HSMP approval letter (where Tier 1 is in place, worldwide 30-Jun-expected) is for a max. of 3 years.

regards

Post by **geriatrix** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:54 am

I will strongly recommend people (from outside UK and India) to start maintaining 2800 (main applicant) and 1600 (each dependent) pounds balance in your bank accounts as soon as they can. Don't let the balance fall below the min. requirement for even a single day, and you will have maintain this for 3 months.

I am suggesting this because there was no waiver offered to people applying from India when Tier 1 was rolled out there (unlike UK where transitional arrangements were offered) and my guess is there will no waiver for the rest of the world. Everyone is safe if UKBA offers some waiver, but if not, best to start preparing ASAP.

regards

T123 · Post by **T123** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:59 pm

7.5 A fundamental difference between Tier 1 (General) and the immigration rules for highly
skilled migrants will be the concept of the single decision. Under the immigration rules
for highly skilled migrants, applicants applying for entry clearance, or to switch from
another immigration category, are required to obtain an approval letter from the Border
and Immigration Agency. Once they obtain that letter, they need to make a separate
application under the immigration rules for entry clearance or leave to remain. Under
Tier 1 (General), they will make one application in which all the requirements will be
considered. This will provide a more efficient and transparent service to migrants, while
strengthening the Border and Immigration Agencyâ€™s control of the system

Need some clarification on this paragraph from the new statement of changes by the BIA....
On the 30th of June Once tier 1 starts worlwide...does this paragraph also mean that ppl who already hold a HSMP approval document and are applying for EC will also fall under this Single decision.
Or is this only for new approval documents issued from June 30th.....

thx...

Post by **geriatrix** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:17 pm

T123 wrote:On the 30th of June Once tier 1 starts worlwide...does this paragraph also mean that ppl who already hold a HSMP approval document and are applying for EC will also fall under this Single decision.
Or is this only for new approval documents issued from June 30th

IMO, everyone with an HSMP approval letter will follow the same process currently in place for people in UK and India under similar circumstances (HSMP approval in hand, Tier 1 replaces HSMP, what next?). The details can be viewed here

regards

rajesh9pl · Post by **rajesh9pl** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:33 pm

WorldBridge has following information on its fornt page.

Points Based System Notice
Tier One (General) Migrant of the Points Based System was launched in the UK on 29 February 2008 replacing the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). From 30 June 2008 applicants both in the UK and overseas must submit applications for all categories of Tier One. These are Tier One (General) Migrant, Tier One (Investor), Tier One (Entrepreneur) and Tier One (Post-Study work).

https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/Welcome.aspx

Folks,
Welcome to world of T1. Good luck.

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Tier 1 Worldwide from 30 June, 2008 !!??

Tier 1 Worldwide from 30 June, 2008 !!??