T1E ILR 5YEAR ROUTE JOB CREATION AND JOB TITLE

[CULLINAN]

Thanks Tier1147 for your reply, Yes I will update Fresh CAR, But I meant CR company Registration Certificate. And I will seriously take Aman's advice.

You dont need CR. CAR is enough.

[aman90]

I am going to take chance as I was waiting for 24 months for my decision its really uncertain situation for every one those who waiting this long for their status.

Do not attempt to rely on job creation evidence of 2017-2018 only.
When do you plan on varying?

So as you suggest I am going to add up rest of the updated documents for the past two years. I already show my investment in my extension application (June-2017) I supplied personal bank statement, business statement to show the transfer. Also accountant letter,Directors Loan agreement, audited accounts to prove the investment on top when I had interview (feb-2018) again I provide proof for the source of money and investment and spent the money in business (invoices) etcc.. So I believe those are enough to prove investment point. Please suggest, did they consider these previous documents or should I provide fresh documents again ?? Like current annual accounts, accountant letter etc..

A fresh accountants letter won’t hurt as their membership is also important.

I am going to quote in my covering letter CW can refer the previous application document for the investment this is the same I am going to do for my Degree certicate and CR (not CAR) etcc.. Please advice which will be better.

That’s ok. What is CR? CT41G?
Point is life must be continuing as before.
For business registration:
CAR ( proves company and directorship exists)
CT600 ( company is registered and paid corporation tax)
A business bank letter stating ur the sole signatory
A single business bank statement.( these two tie up the evidence above)
Annual accounts submitted and to date( that have yet to be submitted). The directors loan must be shown within the accounts as per HO requirement.

Job creation:
RTI FPS & payslips
All since ext application to date.
The employees’ details and the new joiners within the same jobs ur claiming for since extension.


Liuk

The above is the top of my head that I can think of so ur covered from every aspect and if it comes to arguing ur case there is nothing missing. You will only have a right to an administrative review and that how closely you have matched the documents to the rules and requirements.

Search the forum for any posts pertaining to ur situation as well. I believe a variation ought to be allowed on submission of continuing evidence.
But this is a complex route and this situation has not been addressed in the guidance. I’m not learned enough to guarantee that the above will work out.

[CULLINAN]

There are a couple members who reported successful variation. Search for their posts and follow their advice also.

[aman90]

There are a couple members who reported successful variation. Search for their posts and follow their advice also.

Just read ur posts. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Could you post links to those who varied from tier1 to ILR(under tier1 ENT not LR)

[CULLINAN]

There are a couple members who reported successful variation. Search for their posts and follow their advice also.

Just read ur posts. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Could you post links to those who varied from tier1 to ILR(under tier1 ENT not LR)

I really dont have the access to the links. But I recall reading on the forum. Maybe CR001 can help here.

[rihan]

Thanks Aman for your reply,

Planning to apply - technically I will be qualified to apply by 10-05-19
Accountant Letter- Yes I am going to submit fresh accountant letter with updates directors loan amount (because since two years my directors investment gone up) and updated employee job table.

Also submitting following documents

CT41G,
CT600,
CT603,
CR Copy,
CAR,
Confirmation Statement Copy
VAT reg Certificate
PAYE reg certificate
Pension Reg Certificate
P32
P11
RTI FPS (two years)
Duplicate Payslip (2 years)
P45 and P60
Employee ID and Address proof
2 Month Business bank statement
LIUK Pass Certificate
2 year audited accounts (showing directors investment)
2 year vat account statement
2 year PAYE payment proof

these are the document list which I prepare. Please advice if anything missing.

I searched forum for those who varied same as my situation but unfortunately i couldn't find any. Some one who can find similar post please post their link here, it will be really great full.

Thanks

[CULLINAN]

There are a couple members who reported successful variation. Search for their posts and follow their advice also.

Just read ur posts. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Could you post links to those who varied from tier1 to ILR(under tier1 ENT not LR)

I really dont have the access to the links. But I recall reading on the forum. Maybe CR001 can help here.

Maybe that was LR basis. I am not sure.

[rihan]

There are a couple members who reported successful variation. Search for their posts and follow their advice also.

Just read ur posts. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Could you post links to those who varied from tier1 to ILR(under tier1 ENT not LR)

I really dont have the access to the links. But I recall reading on the forum. Maybe CR001 can help here.

Maybe that was LR basis. I am not sure.

There are a couple members who reported successful variation. Search for their posts and follow their advice also.

There are a couple members who reported successful variation. Search for their posts and follow their advice also.

Just read ur posts. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Could you post links to those who varied from tier1 to ILR(under tier1 ENT not LR)

Sorry I didn't notice these post, that will be really helpful if any one can post those link here, thanks for the hope tier1147 and Aman

[aman90]

Planning to apply - technically I will be qualified to apply by 10-05-19

Initial visa grant date?
So ur gonna take the risk with the employee gap or going to wait till August?


Accountant Letter- Yes I am going to submit fresh accountant letter with updates directors loan amount (because since two years my directors investment gone up) and updated employee job table.

please state the job creation table you plan to submit omitting name.

Also submitting following documents

CT41G, (haven’t you already sent this?)
Certificate of incorporation. (Not important though)
CT600, (send all to date)
CAR, (fresh via web check)
PAYE reg certificate ( not sent already?)
RTI FPS (two years) include May 2019
Duplicate Payslip (2 years) include May 2019
Employee ID & settled status proof (address not required)
1 Month Business bank statement
LIUK Pass Certificate
2 year audited accounts (showing directors investment) in ur name
2 year vat account statement
UK Degree? ( already sent?)
Directors job description & role in day to day activities
Job description of jobs claiming for.
Also
Business bank letter confirming you are sole signatory of the account, if so.
Business insurance certificate. (It can be checked online.. send it anyways)

Current year’s prepared accounts till April if applying in May.

I recall sending 3 years and 3 months accounts at time of ext. 2 years that had been submitted to HMRC plus 1 year & 3 months prepared.

As this is a complex case, your cover letter should be well written. Thorough but to the point.
Do you have dependants?

[rihan]

Yes covering letter has to be strong as you said. No I don't have dependent ? Any other suggestions ?

[aman90]

Did you read the post in entirety?
I mentioned much more within it.
Anyways I came across this:
uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/job-creati ... 78232.html

[rihan]

Thanks Aman for sending this link. It make me bit confused about the job creation. I think I have to rethink about varying application as there is no benefit other than some visa fee refund is in it?? Aman according to your experience what are the benefit to varying application ?? Still HO going to assess ILR application on the basis of document which i provide for the extension. For instance if they going to refuse my extension application still they going to do the same for ILR is it?? But if ILR is refused can I get appeal right (Not AR) ?? Or is there any other benefit for varying application. Please suggest me better option as i am really confused and stress .

Thanks

[aman90]

Thanks Aman for sending this link. It make me bit confused about the job creation. I think I have to rethink about varying application as there is no benefit other than some visa fee refund is in it?? Aman according to your experience what are the benefit to varying application ?? Still HO going to assess ILR application on the basis of document which i provide for the extension. For instance if they going to refuse my extension application still they going to do the same for ILR is it?? But if ILR is refused can I get appeal right (Not AR) ?? Or is there any other benefit for varying application. Please suggest me better option as i am really confused and stress .

Thanks

Lol. Why so negative! Why would ur ext or even ur ILR be refused? Are you enjoying living in a limbo? You’ve already been interviewed. Have you contacted home office?
The benefit I see in varying is that you nudge the process. You are completing 5 years so why not..
Each case has its individual merits. As long as you fulfil the requirements you ought to be confident .
And I think you only get admin review under PBS.

State your visa grant date and also ur job creation table here. The one you submitted and with all the changes after.

[rihan]

Aman I am not being negative, Literally I lost my confidence level, no one enjoy living in this situation. I contacted HO 3 times but received standard reply its in process, escalate to next stage etc.. For ILR as you quoted about my job creation As I have gap between, i don't full fill 12 month continues backward from the date of application, but this condition in the case of people who got extension less than 12 months. That's what my understanding Unfortunately I couldn't find any policies or rules which is matching my situation so that's make me really confused.

The jobs must have existed for at least 12 months during your most recent
grant of leave or, where that leave was granted less than 12 months ago, for at
least the 12 months immediately before the date of your current application.

Policy guidance page no :33 Table F Point 3

I am not clear about this point. Please advice me.

Thanks

[aman90]

Aman I am not being negative, Literally I lost my confidence level, no one enjoy living in this situation. I contacted HO 3 times but received standard reply its in process, escalate to next stage etc.. For ILR as you quoted about my job creation As I have gap between, i don't full fill 12 month continues backward from the date of application, but this condition in the case of people who got extension less than 12 months. That's what my understanding Unfortunately I couldn't find any policies or rules which is matching my situation so that's make me really confused.

The jobs must have existed for at least 12 months during your most recent
grant of leave or, where that leave was granted less than 12 months ago, for at
least the 12 months immediately before the date of your current application.

Policy guidance page no :33 Table F Point 3

I am not clear about this point. Please advice me.

Thanks

Ur case is unprecedented. Caution must be exercised by covering most rules within the guidance.
Let’s say you receive ur approval tomorrow! You will not be able to apply for ILR till August 31st 2019 coz that’s when your full time employee completes 12 months without a gap.
It’s possible that the above point is not even relevant to you as you need 12 months of employment within initial grant and 12 months from extension or within the last grant of leave.
You only have one grant of leave and you have atleast 24 months of employment within it, so you fulfil the requirement.
So chill out!

[rihan]

Thanks Aman your comment make me better again , yes lets take the positive side of it. Will try my luck . Once I made my application at least they will give decision what ever it is. One more thing according to my annual accounts Directors investment gone up since 2017 eg in 2017 it was £70k in 2019 it is £85k so does this make any confusion to CW and when I prepare accountant letter Should I mention the current figure, Even the directors loan agreement was same as 2017. Please advice.

Thanks

[aman90]

Thanks Aman your comment make me better again , yes lets take the positive side of it. Will try my luck . Once I made my application at least they will give decision what ever it is. One more thing according to my annual accounts Directors investment gone up since 2017 eg in 2017 it was £70k in 2019 it is £85k so does this make any confusion to CW and when I prepare accountant letter Should I mention the current figure, Even the directors loan agreement was same as 2017. Please advice.

Thanks

I wouldn’t think so. As long as ur accounts are balanced it should be fine. The requirement is 50k for you. Anything more shouldn’t require a directors loan agreement and doesn’t need to be submitted.

[rihan]

Thanks Aman For your reply, I will keep update if I have any more queries.

Regards