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English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Sat May 11, 2019 11:49 pm

Hi, this is my first time using this forum. I am applying for my husband’s spouse visa this week. He has studied a masters degree in Australia which I have obtained a NARIC statement of comparability letter for (red route-£150) to prove that his masters degree is recognised as the equivalent to the UK masters degree. As his degree was taught in Australia, it is assumed that he meets the required English level.

My question is, what documents should I send to prove this. My solicitor said I only need to send the NARIC statement of comparability, but don’t I need his original degree also?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by seagul » Sun May 12, 2019 4:50 am

anonymous1999 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 11:49 pm

My question is, what documents should I send to prove this. My solicitor said I only need to send the NARIC statement of comparability, but don’t I need his original degree also?
You will also need to attach NARIC own issued statement of english proficiency too.
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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Sun May 12, 2019 10:55 am

seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:50 am
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 11:49 pm

My question is, what documents should I send to prove this. My solicitor said I only need to send the NARIC statement of comparability, but don’t I need his original degree also?
You will also need to attach NARIC own issued statement of english proficiency too.

But Australia is part of the list of countries that the home office assumes the degree was taught in English anyways. Also, do I definitely not need my husbands degree then?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by CR001 » Sun May 12, 2019 11:33 am

You need to send the degree.
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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Sun May 12, 2019 1:39 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 11:33 am
You need to send the degree.
Will a copy of the degree be enough or does it have to be the original?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by seagul » Sun May 12, 2019 8:14 pm

anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:55 am
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:50 am
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 11:49 pm

My question is, what documents should I send to prove this. My solicitor said I only need to send the NARIC statement of comparability, but don’t I need his original degree also?
You will also need to attach NARIC own issued statement of english proficiency too.

But Australia is part of the list of countries that the home office assumes the degree was taught in English anyways. Also, do I definitely not need my husbands degree then?
Only Australian national will be exempted from English language not just by holding Australian degree.
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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:20 pm

seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:14 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:55 am
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:50 am
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 11:49 pm

My question is, what documents should I send to prove this. My solicitor said I only need to send the NARIC statement of comparability, but don’t I need his original degree also?
You will also need to attach NARIC own issued statement of english proficiency too.

But Australia is part of the list of countries that the home office assumes the degree was taught in English anyways. Also, do I definitely not need my husbands degree then?
Only Australian national will be exempted from English language not just by holding Australian degree.
Guidance says that ‘’if an academic qualification has been taught or researched in one of the countries listed in section 4.1, we will assume that it was taught or researched in English at or above the required CEFR level.’’

Australia is a part of the list of those countries, hence proving that the degree was taught in English is not required as the home office already assumes it is.

Will a copy of the degree be required along with my NARIC statement of comparability or is the original necessary?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by seagul » Sun May 12, 2019 8:27 pm

anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:20 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:14 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:55 am
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:50 am


You will also need to attach NARIC own issued statement of english proficiency too.

But Australia is part of the list of countries that the home office assumes the degree was taught in English anyways. Also, do I definitely not need my husbands degree then?
Only Australian national will be exempted from English language not just by holding Australian degree.
Guidance says that ‘’if an academic qualification has been taught or researched in one of the countries listed in section 4.1, we will assume that it was taught or researched in English at or above the required CEFR level.’’

Australia is a part of the list of those countries, hence proving that the degree was taught in English is not required as the home office already assumes it is.

Will a copy of the degree be required along with my NARIC statement of comparability or is the original necessary?
Still none-uk degree will have to be assessed through NARIC whether had it been studied in English speaking country or not.
The opinion expressed as above is neither a professional advice nor contesting/competing to other member's opinion/advice.

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:42 pm

seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:27 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:20 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:14 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:55 am



But Australia is part of the list of countries that the home office assumes the degree was taught in English anyways. Also, do I definitely not need my husbands degree then?
Only Australian national will be exempted from English language not just by holding Australian degree.
Guidance says that ‘’if an academic qualification has been taught or researched in one of the countries listed in section 4.1, we will assume that it was taught or researched in English at or above the required CEFR level.’’

Australia is a part of the list of those countries, hence proving that the degree was taught in English is not required as the home office already assumes it is.

Will a copy of the degree be required along with my NARIC statement of comparability or is the original necessary?
Still none-uk degree will have to be assessed through NARIC whether had it been studied in English speaking country or not.
I have the NARIC statement of comparability which states that my husband studied his degree in Australia. Do I also need to show his degree, and if yes then does it have to be the original?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by seagul » Sun May 12, 2019 8:45 pm

anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:42 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:27 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:20 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:14 pm


Only Australian national will be exempted from English language not just by holding Australian degree.
Guidance says that ‘’if an academic qualification has been taught or researched in one of the countries listed in section 4.1, we will assume that it was taught or researched in English at or above the required CEFR level.’’

Australia is a part of the list of those countries, hence proving that the degree was taught in English is not required as the home office already assumes it is.

Will a copy of the degree be required along with my NARIC statement of comparability or is the original necessary?
Still none-uk degree will have to be assessed through NARIC whether had it been studied in English speaking country or not.
I have the NARIC statement of comparability which states that my husband studied his degree in Australia. Do I also need to show his degree, and if yes then does it have to be the original?
Yes degree will have to attach but fortunately through new system you can scan & upload it and keep original with you during the visa process.
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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:50 pm

seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:45 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:42 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:27 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:20 pm


Guidance says that ‘’if an academic qualification has been taught or researched in one of the countries listed in section 4.1, we will assume that it was taught or researched in English at or above the required CEFR level.’’

Australia is a part of the list of those countries, hence proving that the degree was taught in English is not required as the home office already assumes it is.

Will a copy of the degree be required along with my NARIC statement of comparability or is the original necessary?
Still none-uk degree will have to be assessed through NARIC whether had it been studied in English speaking country or not.
I have the NARIC statement of comparability which states that my husband studied his degree in Australia. Do I also need to show his degree, and if yes then does it have to be the original?
Yes degree will have to attach but fortunately through new system you can scan & upload it and keep original with you during the visa process.
Great! I am also confused as to where the documents need to be sent. My husband is a Pakistani national and is in Australia on a post-graduate work visa. So should I send the documents to Sheffield or should I send them to Perth, Australia? Also, his degree is with him in Australia right now and I have the rest of the documents with me. Is there a way for him to upload his degree online and then I upload the rest of the documents from here?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by seagul » Sun May 12, 2019 10:35 pm

anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:50 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:45 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:42 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:27 pm


Still none-uk degree will have to be assessed through NARIC whether had it been studied in English speaking country or not.
I have the NARIC statement of comparability which states that my husband studied his degree in Australia. Do I also need to show his degree, and if yes then does it have to be the original?
Yes degree will have to attach but fortunately through new system you can scan & upload it and keep original with you during the visa process.
Great! I am also confused as to where the documents need to be sent. My husband is a Pakistani national and is in Australia on a post-graduate work visa. So should I send the documents to Sheffield or should I send them to Perth, Australia? Also, his degree is with him in Australia right now and I have the rest of the documents with me. Is there a way for him to upload his degree online and then I upload the rest of the documents from here?
Your partner will have to apply from Australia and he should enquire from his local vfs centre there that whether they scan & upload the documents at the time of appointment which usually is free in many countries. Now the supporting documents are no longer be sent to sheffield they are scanned, uploaded and sent to them electronically.
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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 am

seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:35 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:50 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:45 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:42 pm


I have the NARIC statement of comparability which states that my husband studied his degree in Australia. Do I also need to show his degree, and if yes then does it have to be the original?
Yes degree will have to attach but fortunately through new system you can scan & upload it and keep original with you during the visa process.
Great! I am also confused as to where the documents need to be sent. My husband is a Pakistani national and is in Australia on a post-graduate work visa. So should I send the documents to Sheffield or should I send them to Perth, Australia? Also, his degree is with him in Australia right now and I have the rest of the documents with me. Is there a way for him to upload his degree online and then I upload the rest of the documents from here?
Your partner will have to apply from Australia and he should enquire from his local vfs centre there that whether they scan & upload the documents at the time of appointment which usually is free in many countries. Now the supporting documents are no longer be sent to sheffield they are scanned, uploaded and sent to them electronically.
His local vfs centre in in Perth, I have checked online and they do not scan and upload the documents for you. Does this mean he will have to do it himself?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by seagul » Mon May 13, 2019 8:01 am

anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 am
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:35 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:50 pm
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:45 pm


Yes degree will have to attach but fortunately through new system you can scan & upload it and keep original with you during the visa process.
Great! I am also confused as to where the documents need to be sent. My husband is a Pakistani national and is in Australia on a post-graduate work visa. So should I send the documents to Sheffield or should I send them to Perth, Australia? Also, his degree is with him in Australia right now and I have the rest of the documents with me. Is there a way for him to upload his degree online and then I upload the rest of the documents from here?
Your partner will have to apply from Australia and he should enquire from his local vfs centre there that whether they scan & upload the documents at the time of appointment which usually is free in many countries. Now the supporting documents are no longer be sent to sheffield they are scanned, uploaded and sent to them electronically.
His local vfs centre in in Perth, I have checked online and they do not scan and upload the documents for you. Does this mean he will have to do it himself?
In that case the supporting documents you will have to take to your local vfs centre in UK for scanning & uploading who usually £75. And according to members experience they scan A4 sized copies of original documents but not sure that whether they cross check them with originals.
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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Mon May 13, 2019 10:50 am

seagul wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 8:01 am
anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 am
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:35 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:50 pm


Great! I am also confused as to where the documents need to be sent. My husband is a Pakistani national and is in Australia on a post-graduate work visa. So should I send the documents to Sheffield or should I send them to Perth, Australia? Also, his degree is with him in Australia right now and I have the rest of the documents with me. Is there a way for him to upload his degree online and then I upload the rest of the documents from here?
Your partner will have to apply from Australia and he should enquire from his local vfs centre there that whether they scan & upload the documents at the time of appointment which usually is free in many countries. Now the supporting documents are no longer be sent to sheffield they are scanned, uploaded and sent to them electronically.
His local vfs centre in in Perth, I have checked online and they do not scan and upload the documents for you. Does this mean he will have to do it himself?
In that case the supporting documents you will have to take to your local vfs centre in UK for scanning & uploading who usually £75. And according to members experience they scan A4 sized copies of original documents but not sure that whether they cross check them with originals.
So when I go to my local vfs centre here to upload documents for £75, how will my husband be able to upload his degree which is with him in Australia, is there any way to do this?

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by seagul » Mon May 13, 2019 7:53 pm

anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 10:50 am
seagul wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 8:01 am
anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 am
seagul wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:35 pm


Your partner will have to apply from Australia and he should enquire from his local vfs centre there that whether they scan & upload the documents at the time of appointment which usually is free in many countries. Now the supporting documents are no longer be sent to sheffield they are scanned, uploaded and sent to them electronically.
His local vfs centre in in Perth, I have checked online and they do not scan and upload the documents for you. Does this mean he will have to do it himself?
In that case the supporting documents you will have to take to your local vfs centre in UK for scanning & uploading who usually £75. And according to members experience they scan A4 sized copies of original documents but not sure that whether they cross check them with originals.
So when I go to my local vfs centre here to upload documents for £75, how will my husband be able to upload his degree which is with him in Australia, is there any way to do this?
Ask to your local VFS centre that whether they strictly want to see original degree certificate or they can just scan the copy. If they don't want original then your partner can send you the copy.
The opinion expressed as above is neither a professional advice nor contesting/competing to other member's opinion/advice.

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Mon May 13, 2019 7:59 pm

seagul wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 7:53 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 10:50 am
seagul wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 8:01 am
anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 am


His local vfs centre in in Perth, I have checked online and they do not scan and upload the documents for you. Does this mean he will have to do it himself?
In that case the supporting documents you will have to take to your local vfs centre in UK for scanning & uploading who usually £75. And according to members experience they scan A4 sized copies of original documents but not sure that whether they cross check them with originals.
So when I go to my local vfs centre here to upload documents for £75, how will my husband be able to upload his degree which is with him in Australia, is there any way to do this?
Ask to your local VFS centre that whether they strictly want to see original degree certificate or they can just scan the copy. If they don't want original then your partner can send you the copy.
Brilliant, thank you for your help!

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Re: English Language requirement for spouse

Post by anonymous1999 » Fri May 17, 2019 5:41 pm

seagul wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 7:53 pm
anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 10:50 am
seagul wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 8:01 am
anonymous1999 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 am


His local vfs centre in in Perth, I have checked online and they do not scan and upload the documents for you. Does this mean he will have to do it himself?
In that case the supporting documents you will have to take to your local vfs centre in UK for scanning & uploading who usually £75. And according to members experience they scan A4 sized copies of original documents but not sure that whether they cross check them with originals.
So when I go to my local vfs centre here to upload documents for £75, how will my husband be able to upload his degree which is with him in Australia, is there any way to do this?
Ask to your local VFS centre that whether they strictly want to see original degree certificate or they can just scan the copy. If they don't want original then your partner can send you the copy.
Hi again! My husband is having his biometrics done in Perth and I, the sponsor, am paying the £75 fee to have all the documents scanned here in the UK. My question is, do the documents need to be scanned and submitted before his biometrics appointment as my solicitor is saying that this is the new rule. It would be easier to submit them after, but she is saying otherwise. I am confused because I am reading people’s timelines and they do not seem to be submitting their supporting documents before the biometrics appointment.

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