non EU want ot get maried with british citizen in ireland

uk212223 · Post by **uk212223** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:47 pm

hi ya,I am no EU citizen my fiancee is british citizen,we couldnt get maried in england because of the new law as i am illegal in england, have to go back to my coutry and apply for spouse visa but i dont ant to do that,We thinking to move to ireland and live there.Can we get maried in ireland even i am illegal?would you please advise me what the procedure?how long take to sort the immigration mutter?what do we need to do?
i know my fiancee has to work in ireland but how long she has to reside to be allowed to get maried?

knapps · Post by **knapps** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:55 pm

can u show a proof that you were in the uk for atleast 1 year and it was legal any sort of proof then you can get write to DOJ to get married otherwise i think the chances are grey. Things are kinda stupid enough here but worth a lawyer visit

uk212223 · Post by **uk212223** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:51 pm

thanks for reply,no i can show any preuve as i am ellegal in uk,but can we gt maried in ireland?

yankeegirl · Post by **yankeegirl** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:00 pm

thanks for reply,no i can show any preuve as i am ellegal in uk,but can we gt maried in ireland?

The more immediate question is, can you get into Ireland?

First, what country are you from? Do you need a visa to enter Ireland? If so, you may not be able to apply for an Irish visa from within the UK since you won't be able to provide proof of legal residence in the UK.

uk212223 · Post by **uk212223** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:06 pm

i will be getting to ireland its easy from uk,just go to belfast on plaine than by route to dublin,but can i get maried in ireland even i am illegal?

yankeegirl · Post by **yankeegirl** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:20 pm

Ok, you are living illegally in the UK, and are planning on entering Ireland illegally?

As to whether you can marry if illegally in Ireland, I think it is up to chance. Some places will check your status, others won't. I have been told of immigration officers meeting the party at the registry office on the day of the wedding, but I don't know how widespread this is. (I was told this by someone at the Immigrant Council).They are bringing in changes to check a person's status, but I'm not sure if it's been implemented. The process just to get married takes at least 3 months.

*If* you manage to get married in Ireland, I highly doubt you'll be able to change your status to a legal one from within Ireland. People in Ireland LEGALLY as the spouses of EU citizens are facing enormous difficulties in trying to be able to stay.

Any way you look at it, your best bet is going to be to return to your home country and apply to enter either Ireland or the UK from there.

uk212223 · Post by **uk212223** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:32 pm

can any one confirm this reply please about immigration checking the status of couple at the register the day of mariage?

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:39 pm

uk212223 wrote:can any one confirm this reply please about immigration checking the status of couple at the register the day of mariage?

I can't, no. But would it have hurt to have thanked yankeegirl for the useful advice she has given to you?

Anyway, all legal issues aside (and I strongly advise you to do things the legal way, returning to your home country, applying for a visa etc.), IF you can enter Ireland via the route you have suggested - and IF you can marry in Ireland - you MAY then, possibly, get Stamp 3 during your certain fight to get Stamp 4. Assuming your spouse, by that time, is working in Ireland (or exercising another EU Treaty right).

Since Stamp 3 gives you legal (dependent) status in Ireland, you MAY then be able to apply to the UK authorities for an EEA Family Permit and then, IF granted, move to mainland UK - or to Northern Ireland - to live legally with your spouse.

You see all the ifs and maybes? Can you imagine the headache? Better keep within the law (and keep your sanity), and apply for a visa from your country of origin.

uk212223 · Post by **uk212223** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:02 pm

thanks for all replies,it wil be very hard for me to go bak to my country,if i dont get y visa i will be stuck and part from my fiancee,butif i could get maried in ireland and sort my immigration will be good.can u explain wat stamp 3 please.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:30 pm

uk212223 wrote:can u explain wat stamp 3 please.

Stamp 3 is a limited stamp which indicates that the person cannot work or study full time in Ireland. This is usually given to visitors or spouse dependants.

In short, allowed to reside but not allowed to work.

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