Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

[snooky]

Members this the link for CITIZENS RIGHT under the withdrawal Agreement

Just read it yourself too

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/202 ... /3/enacted

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

[Zambrano_ombudsman

PART 3

Citizens' rights

Rights in relation to entry and residence
7Rights related to residence: application deadline and temporary protection

Remember the UK parliament are treating people with derivative as EEA nationals.

No offence. Provision is already agreed in the WA

Snooky,

You have pasted a lot of information with no link to the original text.

You have not said which aspect of the long text relates specifically to Zambrano carers.

Copying and pasting information that is not properly referenced is not particularly helpful.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

The Home Office have little incentive to abide by the Transition agreement because any legal challenges would probably not be successful in time to make a difference.

Transition agreements make sense only if a new agreement is likely to occur.

Experts agree that a hard Brexit is the most likely outcome right now. Therefore no new agreement is likely.

The transition would be a transition to nowhere.

[Prettymum]

The Home Office have little incentive to abide by the Transition agreement because any legal challenges would probably not be successful in time to make a difference.

Transition agreements make sense only if a new agreement is likely to occur.

Experts agree that a hard Brexit is the most likely outcome right now. Therefore no new agreement is likely.

The transition would be a transition to nowhere.

Hi Zambrano_ombudsman

Thank you for the Lectures... I want you to know before or after February 01 2020 members of this forum will start posting their Zambrano carer Successful Applications ..then we will all know if your argument is right.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

@Prettymum

I guess you know better than Members of Parliament?

The Home Office have little incentive to abide by the Transition agreement because any legal challenges would probably not be successful in time to make a difference.

Transition agreements make sense only if a new agreement is likely to occur.

Experts agree that a hard Brexit is the most likely outcome right now. Therefore no new agreement is likely.

The transition would be a transition to nowhere.

Hi Zambrano_ombudsman

Thank you for the Lectures... I want you to know before or after February 01 2020 members of this forum will start posting their Zambrano carer Successful Applications ..then we will all know if your argument is right.

Thangam Debbonaire MP Bristol West, January 2020

The Government talk of the 2.5 million people who have been granted status but many of those who have applied for settled status and are entitled to it have been granted only pre-settled status, which does not give that promised certainty. Many people are not aware that they need to apply, particularly those who have been here since childhood. Others may not apply in time, for many good reasons. The Secretary of State says that late applications for good reasons will be considered, but we do not really know what good reasons will count. That does not give certainty. -

My right hon. Friend is exactly right. I ask Government Members to imagine a future constituency surgery in which they are asked to explain to their constituents who are EU citizens why they have been denied a physical document or settled status or have experienced delays in getting that status changed, and have thus been refused a job or a home—because their MP refused to back this amendment. Their constituents will ask, “Why did you vote this way?” and they will need a good answer.

I turn to the CJEU and Lords amendments 2 and 3. In clause 26, the Government signal their intention to create chaos and uncertainty in our legal system. I can do no better than quote from the noble Lord Pannick, who said he supported the amendment for the following reason:

“Clause 26 is fundamentally objectionable, because it would give the Minister a delegated power to decide which courts should be able to depart from judgments of the Court of Justice and what test those courts should apply.”

Every Government Member must understand—it seems that several possibly do, although they are no longer in their places—that if they pass the Government’s motions to disagree with amendments 2 and 3, the separation of powers will be blurred, there will be legal chaos and it will be impossible for Parliament to change. These are not powers that should be exercised through regulation. We should not risk ministerial interference in judicial processes. The Government should think again and withdraw their motions to disagree. If they do not, we will vote against them.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/ ... 5.4#g333.0

[Obie]

The Home Office have little incentive to abide by the Transition agreement because any legal challenges would probably not be successful in time to make a difference.

Transition agreements make sense only if a new agreement is likely to occur.

Experts agree that a hard Brexit is the most likely outcome right now. Therefore no new agreement is likely.

The transition would be a transition to nowhere.

Just stop this. Your posts are extremely misleading and wrong. The withdrawal agreement has already sorted out the Citizens rights question. The future negotiations has nothing to do with citizenship rights, that has been sorted by the withdrawal agreement. Whatever happens with the future agreement, the citizenship rights aspect is sorted and will not be visited.

The protocol on Ireland is not going to be open, unless a new treaty is agreed with the parties.

Therefore whatever happens on 31-12, citizens rights are unaffected, even if there is no deal.

[mubashir1981]

Only txt not pic i think. Or u can type txt or use image to txt app.

Other way of doing is to upload pic on Google drive and then share its link.

Like this
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NFsjLLiBvfC3QoZN8

Hadjer123 if u r using android plz.go to ur photos and click on relevant photo then click on share icon then at the botton it will give u create link option then u can copy past tht link here.
Thanks

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Just stop this. Your posts are extremely misleading and wrong. The withdrawal agreement has already sorted out the Citizens rights question. The future negotiations has nothing to do with citizenship rights, that has been sorted by the withdrawal agreement. Whatever happens with the future agreement, the citizenship rights aspect is sorted and will not be visited.

The protocol on Ireland is not going to be open, unless a new treaty is agreed with the parties.

Therefore whatever happens on 31-12, citizens rights are unaffected, even if there is no deal.

The Withdrawal Agreement does not provide protections for Zambrano carers who live in the UK. This thread is about Zambrano carers. The Withdrawal Agreement principally addresses EU citizens.

You have not provided evidence that the Withdrawal Agreement protects Zambrano carers. It is not enough to just wish for protection. The protection should be in writing. We looked at Articles 9 and 10 of the Withdrawal Agreement. You said the second point on Article 10 didn't apply to Zambrano carers. It is clear that the first point on Article 10 does not apply to Zambrano carers, either.

You are just throwing insults. You aren't providing evidence to support your position. Moreover, any evidence should come from the Withdrawal Agreement.

[Chris90]

All who have not gotten a decision and is waiting over 45 days should organise and ring resolution centre tomorrow at 9 am and demand updates and query what's the hold up and post the findings if any here.

They told me to keep eye on my emails few days ago, today they told me they will ring me with decision or if they need any further details. Last week it was under consideration.

One thing is clear they do not give zambrano applicants proper updates.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

An immigration minister can block the settled status scheme for Zambrano carers "at the drop of a hat" by changing the immigration rules.

Stuart McDonald Shadow SNP Spokesperson (Immigration, Asylum and Border Control), Shadow SNP Spokesperson (Attorney General) on 7 January 2020

I like to be fair, so let me acknowledge one good decision that the Government have made. That was the decision to open the settled status scheme to a broader category of citizen than was strictly required by the withdrawal agreement. Amendment 6 seeks to cement that into primary legislation, rather than leaving it to the whim of an immigration Minister to do away with at the drop of a hat by changing the immigration rules. The official Opposition’s new clause 5 would do the same thing.

On the Independent Monitoring Authority:

A third disappointing choice that the Government have made relates to the make-up of the Independent Monitoring Authority—that is, the body tasked with ensuring that citizens’ rights under the agreement are properly protected. The withdrawal agreement gives broad discretion as to how the board should be made up. Given the torrid time that EU citizens are enduring, the last thing they want to see are provisions that mean that the person appointing the members of the IMA is a person who has ignored all the other concerns and broken the key commitment that she made to them during the referendum. That is of course the Home Secretary.

On the right to appeal a negative result on an EU Settlement Scheme application:

Turning to the issue of appeals, it is positive that the Bill makes provision for a right of appeal against settled status decisions, but not that it does so only by way of regulations or immigration rules. There should be a statutory right of appeal in the primary legislation. These are significant rights that are not to be toyed with on the whim of a Minister

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/ ... ano#g336.3

[mubashir1981]

Just stop this. Your posts are extremely misleading and wrong. The withdrawal agreement has already sorted out the Citizens rights question. The future negotiations has nothing to do with citizenship rights, that has been sorted by the withdrawal agreement. Whatever happens with the future agreement, the citizenship rights aspect is sorted and will not be visited.

The protocol on Ireland is not going to be open, unless a new treaty is agreed with the parties.

Therefore whatever happens on 31-12, citizens rights are unaffected, even if there is no deal.

The Withdrawal Agreement does not provide protections for Zambrano carers who live in the UK. This thread is about Zambrano carers. The Withdrawal Agreement principally addresses EU citizens.

You have not provided evidence that the Withdrawal Agreement protects Zambrano carers. It is not enough to just wish for protection. The protection should be in writing. We looked at Articles 9 and 10 of the Withdrawal Agreement. You said the second point on Article 10 didn't apply to Zambrano carers. It is clear that the first point on Article 10 does not apply to Zambrano carers, either.

You are just throwing insults. You aren't providing evidence to support your position. Moreover, any evidence should come from the Withdrawal Agreement.

U r right can u just plz stop here now. Really appreciate. If u have anything else u share plz share. We got it there is no protection for zambrano in wd agrement. Plz do not make more post about this now. Thanks

[Billyosa]

Billyosa good morning

You are perfectly right. Negativity has come to this platform. We are here to encourage with positivities to achieve the vibration of their dreams.

Again you’re top notch to say everything will be normal at least to 31/12/2020.

Thank you very much

Everyone please remember what Billyosa and Snooky are saying today. Decide for yourself if you want to trust their advice over the next 11 months. Note: Billyosa and Snooky offer you zero evidence for their claims.

Hard facts:

The UK never wanted to give the migrant single parents of British children leave to remain. They fought the EU hard to stop it. The EU ruled against them.

For years, the UK denied Zambrano carers derivative residence cards - in clear and total violation of EU law. From this Friday, there is no EU law in place for Zambrano carers to guide the UK's actions.

Zambrano_Ombudsman

1 Zambrano is now part of UK immigration laws and would continue to apply until the government decides otherwise
2. DRF-1 has been replaced by Zambrano
3. UK will finally lay bare the relationship between the movement of capital and people as per 2004/38/EC law whether the freedom to move around EU and the UK would continue
4. But for now there is no change between now and Dec 2020 and upward to June 2021 still subject to what the final agreement will be.
5. We are expecting a good deal which would be that of negotiations regarding the trade deal – which is about people and capital movement inclusive
6. People must take opportunity while it lasts. There is no need to argue, this is time for action. Arguing is a waste of time and unprofitably unproductively unwarranted. 2 Tim 2:14 says Keep reminding God's people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Amen
7. As you are now having a pre-settled or Settled status apply for anyone within your remit and radar you can assist. Do not wait
8. The requirements are two: relationship and status of the sponsor and other notable documents

A word to the wise .....

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Billyosa good morning

You are perfectly right. Negativity has come to this platform. We are here to encourage with positivities to achieve the vibration of their dreams.

Again you’re top notch to say everything will be normal at least to 31/12/2020.

Thank you very much

Everyone please remember what Billyosa and Snooky are saying today. Decide for yourself if you want to trust their advice over the next 11 months. Note: Billyosa and Snooky offer you zero evidence for their claims.

Hard facts:

The UK never wanted to give the migrant single parents of British children leave to remain. They fought the EU hard to stop it. The EU ruled against them.

For years, the UK denied Zambrano carers derivative residence cards - in clear and total violation of EU law. From this Friday, there is no EU law in place for Zambrano carers to guide the UK's actions.

Zambrano_Ombudsman

1 Zambrano is now part of UK immigration laws and would continue to apply until the government decides otherwise
2. DRF-1 has been replaced by Zambrano
3. UK will finally lay bare the relationship between the movement of capital and people as per 2004/38/EC law whether the freedom to move around EU and the UK would continue
4. But for now there is no change between now and Dec 2020 and upward to June 2021 still subject to what the final agreement will be.
5. We are expecting a good deal which would be that of negotiations regarding the trade deal – which is about people and capital movement inclusive
6. People must take opportunity while it lasts. There is no need to argue, this is time for action. Arguing is a waste of time and unprofitably unproductively unwarranted. 2 Tim 2:14 says Keep reminding God's people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Amen
7. As you are now having a pre-settled or Settled status apply for anyone within your remit and radar you can assist. Do not wait
8. The requirements are two: relationship and status of the sponsor and other notable documents

A word to the wise .....

Billyosa,

Thank you for your points. This thread is about the EU Settlement Scheme for Zambrano carers. It seems to me that UK immigration laws are a separate issue.

Please provide a link to documentation that says "DRF-1 has been replaced by Zambrano"

When you say there is no change - in what, exactly? The UK leaves the EU on Friday. That is a big change in my book.

There is going to be a hard Brexit this December 2020. Or, so it seems. The June 2021 date is not realistic deadline at this point. It could give people a false sense of security.

I agree it is important to apply before 31 January 2020. It is also important to prepare for a refusal, or even no decision before December 2020. In either scenario, what are the next steps? One must act quickly, given the December deadline.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

U r right can u just plz stop here now. Really appreciate. If u have anything else u share plz share. We got it there is no protection for zambrano in wd agrement. Plz do not make more post about this now. Thanks

Mubashir,

People on this forum keep repeating incorrect information about the Withdrawal Agreement and Zambrano carers. False information should be challenged. Otherwise, people will make poor choices. I will look for new, interesting points to post. Thanks

[Obie]

I think this discussion has run it course.

This thread must now return to it original purpose, which is Zambrano application, paper application request and timeline.

It will help if this thread revert to that original purpose.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

The transition period
https://www.gov.uk/transition

After 31 January 2020 there will be a transition period until the end of 2020, while the UK and EU negotiate additional arrangements.

The current rules on trade, travel, and business for the UK and EU will continue to apply during the transition period.

You, your family or your business can take some actions now to prepare for 2021.

What you can do now

Actions you can take now that do not depend on negotiations.

Preparing your business

If you move goods into or out of the EU, you must get an EORI number.

You should also decide how you want to make customs declarations and whether you need to get someone to deal with customs for you.

Staying in the UK if you’re an EU citizen

Check if you need to apply to the settlement scheme if you or your family are from the EU, or from Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein.

Check what you need to do to stay in the UK

Living and working in the EU

Living and working in an EU country depends on the rules in that country.

You may need to register or apply for residency. You should check that you’re covered for healthcare.

You may also need to exchange your UK driving licence for a licence issued by the EU country where you live.

Check what you must do in the country where you live

[Obie]

Please do not post or promote any event or organisation here. We do not know the nature of the event. Whether it is profit making or anything. I have therefore deleted that post.

Please @Zambrano_ombudsman desist from doing that.

[Billyosa]

I think this discussion has run it course.

This thread must now return to it original purpose, which is Zambrano application, paper application request and timeline.

It will help if this thread revert to that original purpose.

Agreed... No more long posts here..
Let the timelines begin before and after 31/1/20..
Please brothers and sisters enough of this wrangling and heckling..
Let this thread serve it's purpose.
God bless..

[Prettymum]

I think this discussion has run it course.

This thread must now return to it original purpose, which is Zambrano application, paper application request and timeline.

It will help if this thread revert to that original purpose.

Agreed... No more long posts here..
Let the timelines begin before and after 31/1/20..
Please brothers and sisters enough of this wrangling and heckling..
Let this thread serve it's purpose.
God bless..

Hi Billyosa,

Yes ooo my brother.

[mubashir1981]

Hi Every one,

i was checking DRF1 form website they have change date 30/12/2020 to 30/06/2021.
https://www.gov.uk/derivative-right-residence
"There will be no change to the rights and status of EU citizens currently living in the UK until 30 June 2021. You and your family can apply to the EU Settlement Scheme to continue living in the UK."
yesterday it was 30/12/2020 now its june i think eu parliament has approved the wd agreement that is way it has been updated.

Note.Zambrano omabdsma i know we are not eu national so no argument here plz. it is just general information.

Thanks

[Billyosa]

Hi Every one,

i was checking DRF1 form website they have change date 30/12/2020 to 30/06/2021.
https://www.gov.uk/derivative-right-residence
"There will be no change to the rights and status of EU citizens currently living in the UK until 30 June 2021. You and your family can apply to the EU Settlement Scheme to continue living in the UK."
yesterday it was 30/12/2020 now its june i think eu parliament has approved the wd agreement that is way it has been updated.

Note.Zambrano omabdsma i know we are not eu national so no argument here plz. it is just general information.

Thanks

I like that part
Anyway it's a good news and it all applies to a British citizen child carer.. aka Zambrano carer.. as I said this will be normal for now... no more arguments
I pray for a successful applications.
God bless

[snooky]

Morning Zambrano derivative brethren and sister, as we have finally approached the EVE OF BREXIT CUM ZAMBRANXIT, let all of us first say thank you to every misfortune of brexit.

Some of us due to this chaotic shenanigans, we have been blessed and/or going to be blessed with INDEFINITE LEAVE TO REMAIN.

The count down for the END OF THE NEW BEGINNING starts from 12 O'clock this noon.

I humbly ask our CREATOR (YAWEH) to protect all and lead us through a successful Red sea.

Amen

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Please do not post or promote any event or organisation here. We do not know the nature of the event. Whether it is profit making or anything. I have therefore deleted that post.

Please @Zambrano_ombudsman desist from doing that.

You have deleted a post about an event sponsored by the London Mayor's office to help people obtain competent legal advice from immigration solicitors.

Well done, Obie.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Hi Every one,

i was checking DRF1 form website they have change date 30/12/2020 to 30/06/2021.
https://www.gov.uk/derivative-right-residence
"There will be no change to the rights and status of EU citizens currently living in the UK until 30 June 2021. You and your family can apply to the EU Settlement Scheme to continue living in the UK."
yesterday it was 30/12/2020 now its june i think eu parliament has approved the wd agreement that is way it has been updated.

Note.Zambrano omabdsma i know we are not eu national so no argument here plz. it is just general information.

Thanks

I find general information useful. Some people on this thread do not want general information to be posted, however.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Hi Every one,

i was checking DRF1 form website they have change date 30/12/2020 to 30/06/2021.
https://www.gov.uk/derivative-right-residence
"There will be no change to the rights and status of EU citizens currently living in the UK until 30 June 2021. You and your family can apply to the EU Settlement Scheme to continue living in the UK."
yesterday it was 30/12/2020 now its june i think eu parliament has approved the wd agreement that is way it has been updated.

Note.Zambrano omabdsma i know we are not eu national so no argument here plz. it is just general information.

Thanks

I like that part
Anyway it's a good news and it all applies to a British citizen child carer.. aka Zambrano carer.. as I said this will be normal for now... no more arguments
I pray for a successful applications.
God bless

Billyosa,

Your idea that EU citizens automatically includes Zambrano carers is obviously wrong. You have proved nothing. You are just making assumptions.