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[Adnan20161993]

Hello.

I’m sorry I do not know how to use this but I was hoping somebody would be able to help me or guide me.
I came to the U.K. in January 2018 and my biometrics card expires October this year 2020. So I want to apply to stay for another 2.5 years.

I was employed by a company from February 2018 until April 10 2019. My wife was also employed during this term and together we earned a combination of more than £18,600.

On April 15th 2019 I became self employed. My wife was still employed. For my visa extension she does not meet the requirement alone as she earns only £18,010. The tax year in the U.K. is from 6th April to 5th April. I started my self employment on the 15th April. Everything I have been reading says it has to be a full tax year if self employed. Even though u missed it by just 9 days by starting on the 15th and not the 6th does this now mean we do not meet financial requirements for me to extend my visa this year???

We do have more than £62,500 worth of savings, we have applied for a mortgage. Should we pull out of the house and show our savings instead if I do not meet the requirements? This would of course be devastating to do.
Please please could somebody guide me. Since I have arrived to the U.K. me and my wife have always earned more than £18,600 together. Because I started self employment on 15th and not 6th somebody please guide me

[seagul]

The route of self employment entail an extended range of documents which on many occasions still couldn't convince the UKVI caseworker. In your case as your partner is earning £18010 through a paye job where she can start undertaking another role or starts doing overtime to cover the shortfall. Or you can use your cash savings to meet the financial requirement if you aren't in rush to buy the home. Or you can start doing a part time job as you still have quite reasonable amount of visa left.

[Adnan20161993]

The problem is she is now on maternity leave since December. She currently receives maternity pay of around £700 per month. I got a full time job which started on April 2nd just in case but the biometrics expires in October which means I would not be able to get full 6 months payslip from the company....
Is it best to not show my self employment at all?? Should I continue with my full time job even though I would be short of the full 6 months?? If it’s best to use the savings along with my wife’s pay how does this work now that she is receiving maternity pay?? Is it best we pull out of he house?

[seagul]

The problem is she is now on maternity leave since December. She currently receives maternity pay of around £700 per month. I got a full time job which started on April 2nd just in case but the biometrics expires in October which means I would not be able to get full 6 months payslip from the company....
Is it best to not show my self employment at all?? Should I continue with my full time job even though I would be short of the full 6 months?? If it’s best to use the savings along with my wife’s pay how does this work now that she is receiving maternity pay?? Is it best we pull out of he house?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... d-evidence

If you can provide the documents in relation of your self employment as mentioned in the link above then yes can use self employment. But as you said to have started a new job on 2nd April then if it giving you sufficient income which is £18600 per annum then you can only use that income because by the time you will apply extension in October then you must have received 6 months (April - Sep) payslips. Otherwise you can combine your income with your wife's income under category B if the combined income during the last 12 months will be at least £18600.

[Adnan20161993]

Oh yes perfect I did not think of this. So please help me if I show my full time job, and add my monthly pay with my wife’s monthly maternity pay it must be £1550 a month or more which totals up to £18,600 if we was to do this for the full year is this correct? So if my wife gets £700 a month maternity I must receive £850 per month to combine both?

[seagul]

Oh yes perfect I did not think of this. So please help me if I show my full time job, and add my monthly pay with my wife’s monthly maternity pay it must be £1550 a month or more which totals up to £18,600 if we was to do this for the full year is this correct? So if my wife gets £700 a month maternity I must receive £850 per month to combine both?

If you alone are earning at least £1550 a month then you wouldn't even need to combine your income rather can proceed under category A with 6 months of payslips. Otherwise yes you can carrying on receiving £850 if she will also keep receiving £700. Also if she has earned more than this amount before commencing her maternity then may even rely on that income. But to avoid large paper the easiest option will be if you alone earn £1550 or if you have cash savings which you said to have earlier then don't keep it idle rather show them to meet the financial requirement relatively more easily.

[Adnan20161993]

I earn around £1200 per month so I guess if we combined this with her maternity pay we would meet the criteria. We are currently in the process of buying a house and we have already filed the solicitor work we would pull out if we did not meet the criteria. Does temporary employment not count towards a visa extension? It has to be a permanent contracted job right?

[seagul]

I earn around £1200 per month so I guess if we combined this with her maternity pay we would meet the criteria.

Yes fine but she would need employer letter too

Does temporary employment not count towards a visa extension? It has to be a permanent contracted job right?

Any type of contract either permanent or temporary is allowed.

[Adnan20161993]

OMG! When my wife applied for me to come to the country 2 years ago the immigration solicitor told her only permanent contracts are acceptable as this shows you will still be in employment! I currently have a full time job which I started on the 2nd of April. I have just got myself another full time job which has much better pay, the job I got on the 2nd of April averages my pay to around £1200 a month, my new job (which is temporary for 39 weeks so until January next year) has much better pay with an average of £1800 per month. If I accept this job I would only be able to get 5 months pay slip from them in time for my visa extension, could I combine it with my current job for April pay even if I leave the job? So April payslip from current job, then leave them and 5 months payslip from new 39 weeks temporary job?

[Adnan20161993]

I started temporary employment on October 4th 2019 through an agency where I was earning enough combined with my wife’s employment. She went on maternity in December and is still on maternity receiving maternity pay and will be when we apply for the extension. I was getting paid weekly through the agency. I worked up until March 13th 2020. I then left that job and went abroad. I came back and got a new full time job (this time not through an agency) and started on the 2nd of April this year. I am still currently employed with this job, I have given my notice and this week is my last week so I will have received April and may pay with them, again with my wife’s maternity employment money meeting above the threshold requirement. I have now got another full time job back at my old work place that I started in October (again through the same agency as October last year receiving payslips weekly) My visa extension is due in October this year. If I show the last 6 months, only 5 months would be with the agency job as April payslip would have to be with the current other job that I’ve handed my notice to. How do I combine both incomes from 2 different jobs? From the current full time job along with my new agency job? And if so would I need a letter from the current job before I work my last day which is Sunday to say I worked with them for April pay which would be shown for the application?

[seagul]

You can combine yours and yours wife earnings from all jobs during the last 12 months under category B. And if the aggregation of these earnings reaches to £18600 and you have a job giving you an income of at least £18600 a year then you can easily meet the financial requirement under category B. Also before leaving your present job try to get employer letter for just in case.

[Adnan20161993]

The last 12 months so if we was to apply in August, would this be from August 2019 pay to August 2020 pay or would this be from September 2019 pay to August pay?
So in order to qualify for category B we both must have earned a combination together of at least £18,600 over the last 12 months.


Also with the current pandemic if lockdown is still ongoing, hopefully it will be cured and this virus will go, but if lockdown is still going what do we do regarding English test as the test centres are closed?

And can I just say thank you so so much for your replies and you help, it’s ever so kind of you and has really helped

[seagul]

The last 12 months so if we was to apply in August, would this be from August 2019 pay to August 2020 pay or would this be from September 2019 pay to August pay?

https://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html
Use the above calculator to find the correct 12 months.

So in order to qualify for category B we both must have earned a combination together of at least £18,600 over the last 12 months.

Yes and plus either/both of you must have a salaried income (fixed wages) of £18600 at the time of application.

Also with the current pandemic if lockdown is still ongoing, hopefully it will be cured and this virus will go, but if lockdown is still going what do we do regarding English test as the test centres are closed?

If you have a foreign bachelor degree which is either honors or studied for 3-4 years then you may consider to use NARIC comparability service who are operating remotely.

And can I just say thank you so so much for your replies and you help, it’s ever so kind of you and has really helped

Welcome

[Adnan20161993]

Replying to your comment of either or both must have a salaried income of £18,600 at the time of application,

My agency employment contract says:
“You will be required to work a shift of various shift patterns 8hr/10hr shifts (4-6 days out of 7 days)
your normal working hours will be between 20-40 hours whilst carrying out your temporary employment for 39 weeks. You may be required to work additional scheduled hours above your normal working hours during the course of your assignment.”

We will apply for our application in August, it will be 12 months in August and to today’s date we have already earned a combination of over £20,000 from her employment/maternity and my 3 job roles within the last 12 months (less than 6 months per job role)

But based on your reply- My wife has fixed wages and receives £18,010 yearly which is what it says on her p60 and according to her contracted hours. Does this mean I also qualify for the fixed salaried income you mentioned we must have at the time of application if I am still within my contract as quoted above?

[seagul]

My agency employment contract says:
“You will be required to work a shift of various shift patterns 8hr/10hr shifts (4-6 days out of 7 days)
your normal working hours will be between 20-40 hours whilst carrying out your temporary employment for 39 weeks. You may be required to work additional scheduled hours above your normal working hours during the course of your assignment.”

You seems like a none-salaried person due to be expected to earn highly variable income

We will apply for our application in August, it will be 12 months in August and to today’s date we have already earned a combination of over £20,000 from her employment/maternity and my 3 job roles within the last 12 months (less than 6 months per job role)

That is more than enough to meet the 2nd part of category B

But based on your reply- My wife has fixed wages and receives £18,010 yearly which is what it says on her p60 and according to her contracted hours. Does this mean I also qualify for the fixed salaried income you mentioned we must have at the time of application if I am still within my contract as quoted above?

To decipher this concept & calculations simply make sure to have earned at least £9300 during the last 6 months for meeting the 1st part of category B. Again on this point too you both can combine your incomes.

[Adnan20161993]

Yes sorry my wife and I both are non-salaried as we both get paid hourly.
I’m so sorry I just want to clarify one last time

We can use category B if

-Over the last 12 months we have earned £18,600 or more despite me not being with the same employer for 6 months or more

In the last 6 months of application we must have earned either alone or in combination with each other a total of £9300

This is all the financial requirement needed to be met to apply using category B?

We will both get letters from employers hers stated her job is permanent and my job is 39 week contract along with 12 months of bank statements and p60’s.

[seagul]

Yes sorry my wife and I both are non-salaried as we both get paid hourly.
I’m so sorry I just want to clarify one last time

We can use category B if

-Over the last 12 months we have earned £18,600 or more despite me not being with the same employer for 6 months or more

In the last 6 months of application we must have earned either alone or in combination with each other a total of £9300

This is all the financial requirement needed to be met to apply using category B?

Yes to all above

We will both get letters from employers hers stated her job is permanent and my job is 39 week contract along with 12 months of bank statements and p60’s.

Yes and also 12 months of payslips from all jobs. Also don't attach p60.

[Adnan20161993]

Sorry did you say do not attach p60? What about for the 2 previous employments I’ve had in the last 12 months do I not attach p60 for them?

[seagul]

Sorry did you say do not attach p60? What about for the 2 previous employments I’ve had in the last 12 months do I not attach p60 for them?

Don't attach if you are supplying payslips.

[Adnan20161993]

Does my wife need to attach hers?
She attached hers along with the payslips when she applied for my spouse visa to enter the country

[seagul]

Does my wife need to attach hers?
She attached hers along with the payslips when she applied for my spouse visa to enter the country

She can also not include it. However, sometimes these can be attached as proof of address/cohabitation if other evidences are deficient in numbers.

[Adnan20161993]

Am I correct in thinking I need to fill out the flr m form and attach all evidence required and then I won’t really need to pay solicitor fees?

[seagul]

Am I correct in thinking I need to fill out the flr m form and attach all evidence required

Yes
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... form-flr-m

and then I won’t really need to pay solicitor fees?

Online application usually tells you what to include and what to do next and for a straightforward case there isn't really the need of solicitor.

[Adnan20161993]

Thank you
Going back to the time calculator link you sent me to calculate the 12 months of employment we need to show for category B. The timeline shows it will be from August to August to calculate 12 full months. So from 1st of August 2019 to 1st August 2020. My question is my wife was employed from August 2019 to today’s current date. My agency work started in October 2019. So even though I wasn’t employed in August and September 2019 could we still use this as part of the 12 months as we would have still earned above the £18,600 in 12 months without those 2 months of me being employed? Would we still be able to meet category B with me being employed for 10 months out of the 12 but again still earning over £18,600 in the 12 months and £9300 in the last 6 months only difference is I wasn’t employed for the first 2 months only my wife was

[seagul]

Thank you
Going back to the time calculator link you sent me to calculate the 12 months of employment we need to show for category B. The timeline shows it will be from August to August to calculate 12 full months. So from 1st of August 2019 to 1st August 2020. My question is my wife was employed from August 2019 to today’s current date. My agency work started in October 2019. So even though I wasn’t employed in August and September 2019 could we still use this as part of the 12 months as we would have still earned above the £18,600 in 12 months without those 2 months of me being employed? Would we still be able to meet category B with me being employed for 10 months out of the 12 but again still earning over £18,600 in the 12 months and £9300 in the last 6 months only difference is I wasn’t employed for the first 2 months only my wife was

Should be fine. Just attach your wife's payslips for those 2 months.