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bcos i hold a spouse visa

Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:33 am

hi guys

just a quick one, after finishing uni 2 months ago ive been applying for jobs. However, HMRC, British Gas and NHS have told me i do not meet their one criterion, which me haveing a spouse visa and it expires next july. Although i am still waiting for some outcome from some more interviews ive done.

i then rang the UKBA this moring about my anger they told me they were aware some company do this especially the NHS. i then told the bloke on the phone that what happens next year when i want to apply for ILR and i have no payslips to show what will u lot do? deny me an ILR? his answer was " i cannot answer that as there is no directive for that"

surely this could be related to denying one the right to work, earn a living, and subjected to working in limited organisations. i know some of you could argue that some organisation will still employ me but should i be denied a job for having a spouse visa and experienced enough to do the job i have applied for with proven track record compared to someone with limited experience without a spouse visa (other visa).

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Post by vinny » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:48 am

Perhaps the Guidance booklets may help convince prospective employers that you can work.
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Re: bcos i hold a spouse visa

Post by whirly » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:53 am

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:hi guys

just a quick one, after finishing uni 2 months ago ive been applying for jobs. However, HMRC, British Gas and NHS have told me i do not meet their one criterion, which me haveing a spouse visa and it expires next july. Although i am still waiting for some outcome from some more interviews ive done.

i then rang the UKBA this moring about my anger they told me they were aware some company do this especially the NHS. i then told the bloke on the phone that what happens next year when i want to apply for ILR and i have no payslips to show what will u lot do? deny me an ILR? his answer was " i cannot answer that as there is no directive for that"

surely this could be related to denying one the right to work, earn a living, and subjected to working in limited organisations. i know some of you could argue that some organisation will still employ me but should i be denied a job for having a spouse visa and experienced enough to do the job i have applied for with proven track record compared to someone with limited experience without a spouse visa (other visa).
Smooth Operator,
I know your frustration. Like you say, someone out there will employ you but it's difficult in the meantime. When I was in your situation, I did not mention my spouse visa expiry date either on my CV or in interviews - only when asked directly. Are you offering the information, or only when asked? If asked about the expiry, just be confident: 'My spouse visa ends in July when I get indefinite leave to remain.' (Can you tell that I am in marketing - I can put a positive spin on almost anything?!)

I was also looking at smaller companies - I didn't have very good responses from big multi-nationals. Obviously your industry might dictate where you can apply, but I found that smaller companies were more responsive, especially for a non-EU recent postgrad in marketing, which (let's face it) anyone can do.

Another thing to remember about your ILR next year is that you don't have to prove you've been working - as a spouse visa holder, they're more interested in knowing that your marriage is real. Don't worry so much about the payslips - didn't they just release new ILR forms which only ask for 6 docs over 2 years anyway?

Best of luck!

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:53 pm

thanks whirly

i only tell them whenever they ask and not the other way round ive been applying everywhere from multinational companies to labouring jobs and believe me it aint easy. ive got a Human Resource Management BA(Hons), Human Resource Management MA with Distinctions and also CIPD qualified. and even thinking of doing a PGCE at the moment. ive been for an interview in both Dubai, Qatar, Texas and Mexico for HR jobs with some oil companies and have been offered 2 jobs but this will forfit me applying for ILR as the Mrs loves her job here and my step son will miss his dad which is understandable, but guess i'll have to get a low paid job then lol lol if i find one !!!!!

by the way i'll check the new ILR form for documents needed

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:07 pm

whirly just checked the new form

just past 10A on SET M form:

Evidence of your finances. Bank statements, building society savings book(s), pay slips or other formal documents as evidence
of your and your partner’s ability to maintain and accommodate yourself and any dependants without recourse to public
funds (see Note 6).

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Post by whirly » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:12 pm

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:whirly just checked the new form

just past 10A on SET M form:

Evidence of your finances. Bank statements, building society savings book(s), pay slips or other formal documents as evidence
of your and your partner’s ability to maintain and accommodate yourself and any dependants without recourse to public
funds (see Note 6).
It does say '... or ...'

I'm not saying payslips aren't an important part of your ILR ap. I know it's essential to be able to show that you can support yourselves without recourse to public funds. My only point was that payslips are not the only way to show some degree of financial health...

As for the job hunt, I truly hear ya, dude. I was out of work for one year (gasp!) before I found someone willing to take me on. Most of what keeps me here is dread of going through that process again! Hang in there.

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Post by Sammie » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:28 am

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:Evidence of your finances. Bank statements, building society savings book(s), pay slips or other formal documents as evidence
of your and your partner’s ability to maintain and accommodate yourself and any dependants without recourse to public
funds (see Note 6).
In the absence of payslips, to prove that you are financially stable you could provide your bank statements and also a letter from the Job Centre that states that neither of you have ever claimed any benefits.
Visa: Spouse
Submitted: 12/03/08 (Mirpur VAC, PAkistan)
Time Elapsed:10 Working Days
Result: VISA ISSUED 28/03/2008
ILR App: 18/03/2010-28/03/2010
ILR App Sent: 25/03/2010
ILR Received: 30/07/2010 - YAY!!

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Post by John » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:46 am

Smooth Operator, you are worrying unnecessarily, in the sense that it is not even a requirement that an applicant for ILR, using form SET(M), has ever worked in the UK.

And quite a lot of such applicants will never have had paid employment, although to describe a mother with young children as unemployed might be going a bit too far! Probably very hard work, but unpaid, so no payslips.
John

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:45 am

thanks dudes

i a worry head lol lol lol lol i was born that way lol but im relaxed now after reading ur notes. thanks once again. by the way john how's the mrs.

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