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Marriage without having a wedding ceremony

Post by ricardo29 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:37 pm

Hi,

My partner and I are planning to get married in her country next month whilst I am visiting her for a month on a tourist visa. I will have to self-isolate for 2 weeks so I've got only 2 weeks for travel & marriage. We lived together in the UK whilst she was visiting me here on a tourist visa for 7 months.

Our initial plan was to apply for a fiance visa next month & get married in the UK next year but because of the costs & stresses involved, we decided to get married in her country and apply for a spouse visa instead.

But we are not going to have a ceremony due to coronavirus & other personal reasons.
We shared some financial responsibilities when we lived together.

There is a little bit of an uneasy feeling about applying for a marriage visa after having no proper wedding ceremony there.

Would just a marriage certificate with translation without proper wedding pictures be enough as long as our relationship is legitimate? I don't worry about whether the case worker would question whether our relationship is genuine or not. But I will be left with only 2 wks after self-isolation, it might appear the reason why I visited her country was simply to get legally married.

And I think we will tell them the truth that we married outside the UK to save the time & money & stresses. Would it attract attention in a negative way?

Last, we will get married in the UK next year once she enter the country with a spouse visa. We'd like to mention it in the cover letter. Would it be better if we do not mention it at all?

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Re: Marriage without having a wedding ceremony

Post by CR001 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:04 pm

Have you registered a second username to continue asking questions?? Multiple usernames are strictly not permitted on the forum.

https://www.immigrationboards.com/member/father_ted29/

https://www.immigrationboards.com/annou ... 11811.html
We lived together in the UK whilst she was visiting me here on a tourist visa for 7 months.
Did your partner overstay their tourist visa?? You cannot stay in the UK as a tourist for more than 6 months. It is a breach of visa conditions.
Would just a marriage certificate with translation without proper wedding pictures be enough as long as our relationship is legitimate? I don't worry about whether the case worker would question whether our relationship is genuine or not. But I will be left with only 2 wks after self-isolation, it might appear the reason why I visited her country was simply to get legally married.
There is no mandatory requirement to have a wedding reception. It must however be a legal and valid marriage conducted according to the laws of the country you are marrying in. You will also need an officially translated marriage cert if it is not in English.
And I think we will tell them the truth that we married outside the UK to save the time & money & stresses. Would it attract attention in a negative way?
No and there is NO reason you have to even mention this.
Last, we will get married in the UK next year once she enter the country with a spouse visa. We'd like to mention it in the cover letter. Would it be better if we do not mention it at all?
You cannot get married again in the UK if you already got married officially and legally abroad. Once you are married, regardless of where you did it, you are married.
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Re: Marriage without having a wedding ceremony

Post by ricardo29 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:31 pm

Thank you for your reply.

My partner created her own user id on my computer when she was staying with me.

No, she didn't overstay. She stayed in the UK over two visits for a total of 7 months.

The last answer was a very helpful information. We could have made a big mistake!

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A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by ricardo29 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:34 am

Hi,

I jointly own my home with my brother 50/50.
I presume I will need a letter from him confirming he is happy for me and my wife (to be) to reside at the house indefinately if the visa is granted.

Would a copy of his passport be necessary?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:25 pm

ricardo29 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:34 am
Hi,

I jointly own my home with my brother 50/50.
I presume I will need a letter from him confirming he is happy for me and my wife (to be) to reside at the house indefinately if the visa is granted.

Would a copy of his passport be necessary?

Thanks in advance!
Among other documents showing joint ownership, the NOC letter from him will be fine and no harm if with copy of his passport.

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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by seagul » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:34 pm

ricardo29 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:34 am
Hi,

I jointly own my home with my brother 50/50.
I presume I will need a letter from him confirming he is happy for me and my wife (to be) to reside at the house indefinately if the visa is granted.

Would a copy of his passport be necessary?

Thanks in advance!
Copy of title deed and mortgage statement will be needed too.
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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by ricardo29 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:00 pm

Hi again,

The problem is the house was previously owned by my parents and the mortgage has been paid back in full many years ago when the property was still owned by them. I still have the mortgage settlement letter but it's in my deceased mother's name. Would a copy of the deeds be enough to prove there is no mortgage outstanding on the property? (I do not know what a copy of the deeds entails..)

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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by seagul » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:18 pm

ricardo29 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:00 pm
Would a copy of the deeds be enough to prove there is no mortgage outstanding on the property?
If the property now is free from mortgage then no mortgage statement/letter will be needed.
ricardo29 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:00 pm
(I do not know what a copy of the deeds entails..)
https://www.gov.uk/get-information-abou ... s-of-deeds
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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by ricardo29 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:07 pm

Thanks for the reply.

The deeds seem to be made up of different documents. That's where my confusion arises.

Is 'Title register' what's called 'the copy of deeds' required to submit in the visa application?.. Which I think I can get it on the HM Land Registry.

or are there any other deeds that I need to submit along with it?

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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by seagul » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:44 pm

ricardo29 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:07 pm
Which I think I can get it on the HM Land Registry.
Yes
ricardo29 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:07 pm
or are there any other deeds that I need to submit along with it?
No
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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by Korekt » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:03 pm

ricardo29 wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:07 pm
Thanks for the reply.

The deeds seem to be made up of different documents. That's where my confusion arises.

Is 'Title register' what's called 'the copy of deeds' required to submit in the visa application?.. Which I think I can get it on the HM Land Registry.
The title register is different from the deeds.

The title register is more straightforward.
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Re: A copy of passport from house co-owner

Post by seagul » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:46 am

A title and deed are not verily different rather is a same mechanism through which property is owned or transfer. As OP said earlier that he has copy of deed which most likely be acceptable for immigration purpose despite not gets accepted in court for other matters of dispute. Lets look on both:

Title refers to ownership of the property, meaning that you have the rights to use that property. It may be a partial interest in the property or it may be the full. However, because you have title, you can access the land and potentially modify it as you see fit. Title also means that you can transfer that interest or portion that you own to others. However, you can never legally transfer more than you own.

Deeds, on the other hand, are actually the legal documents that transfer title from one person to another. It must be a written document, according to the Statute of Frauds of 1677

In op's case if he already has the legal documents of deeds then these would be enough without even needing for title.
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