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Spouse visa

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:33 pm

Hi could do with some advice...

my wife here on a spouse visa 2.5 years - expires October 2020. We want to reapply for the extension.

I get PIP so as I understand we have to meet adequate maintenance and NOT minimum income threshold

My pip is £249.00 a month so as I understand this equates to £62.25 a week.

Current income support rate is £116.80 so this makes me short by £54.55 a week.

I am told I can evidence this with any form of employment or cash savings.

In terms of cash savings - I have £3.2k in an instant saver account. This has been held for over six months. So as I understand they divide this by the number of weeks of stay granted if the applicaton was to go ahead, 2.5 years so 130 weeks? this then works out at £24.61? I have savings of over £10k but rather stupidly they are in a notice account and I didn't realise that they had to be an instant access account - they are not able to be withdrawn as it's Al Rayan bank and they dont allow it instantly withdrawn even if you pay a penalty :( I didn't know this up and till recently.... :cry:

Obviously this means I am still short of the adequate maintenance amount....by around about £30?

So here goes, I have been looking for employment for the last year and have honestly found nothing despite making application after application. It's been a real struggle and I've been at breaking point several times. Then COVID happened and it become from difficult to impossible :( I know they say help is available for those affected by COVID so they use the six months prior to covid Sep-March is this correct?

I lost my previous job relied on for the previous application in 2018. Haven't worked since but am at university doing a Masters degree and do student Ambassador work there since 2016 - I earned about £500 from September 2019-March 2020. The money varies alot, the bulk was in December.

There is some student jobs going at uni but they are voluntary roles. Am I right in thinking that the adequate maintenance does not have to be for six months? Less is OK too? It says the letter should say the form of employment. There is a job going for a 3 month contract with the potential to be extended and I have applied for that but will this help us? it's a temp contract... is all that matters is that I have this income at the time of application or will the start dividing this by a year or 130 weeks or 30 months.

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:35 pm

Sorry forgot to add my wife does not work.
As I have over £16k of savings in total I am not entitled to IS or JSA. It's a notice account which is really annoying.
I get about £30 profit/interest a month? Not sure if this could help.


Really frustrated, its so hard getting a job right now :cry:

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by seagul » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:36 pm

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by seagul » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:39 pm

Also I believe that you have truthfully disclosed your savings to benefit authorities
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Re: Spouse visa

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:39 pm

seagul wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:39 pm
Also I believe that you have truthfully disclosed your savings to benefit authorities
I get PIP only no other benefits, it's not a means-tested benefit.
I dont get IS or JSA due to the savings I have..

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:43 pm

Also as this is a extension visa do we need to do another property inspection?
the last one was 2015 and was fine...

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by seagul » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:48 pm

lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:43 pm
Also as this is a extension visa do we need to do another property inspection?
the last one was 2015 and was fine...
yes if unrelated adults are also living.
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Re: Spouse visa

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:58 pm

seagul wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:48 pm
lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:43 pm
Also as this is a extension visa do we need to do another property inspection?
the last one was 2015 and was fine...
yes if unrelated adults are also living.
living with parents - same as 2015. we have no children yet...

can u attach the 2015 one or not needed now as it's an extension?

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by seagul » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:01 pm

lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:58 pm

...

can u attach the 2015 one or not needed now as it's an extension?
Property inspection report won't be needed if living with parents unless you voluntarily want to.
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Re: Spouse visa

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:02 pm

can anyone please advise.

like I said I have a temp job offer that starts on 14 sep, but her visa expires middle October.

the job is for 14 weeks? is this enough ... do they prefer permanent jobs.

like I said I get pip £249 a month, so thats around £62.25 a week. So it's £116 we need, and I am short by about £54. so I need a job that's around about 6-8 hours a week. This job is about 14 hours so it'll be enough but it doesn't go on for very long as in it can be extended but it's a temporary contract.

as its adequate maintenance and NOT the other route, the link above suggests that if the job is non-salaried which it is, its paid hourly and it's LESS than 6 months, does not express a minimum there then it can be used.

is all that matters is it's active at time of application.

would really appreciate some help, very stressed about this at the moment :cry: I dont know whether to accept it or not

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by mavaas11 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:42 pm

A -B > C (formula for appendix fm guidance)
INCOME - (ACCOMODATION COSTS I.E. RENT AND COUNCIL TAX) > INCOME SUPPORT LEVEL FOR A COUPLE

£116.8 (IS) - £62.25 = £54.55

£54.55 * 130 (WEEKS FOR FLR) = £7,091

This caluclation above is based on if you dont have children, and any housing costs i.e. rent and council tax, for a couple both 18+


So you need about £7,500 savings, to be on the safe side. keep it in a savings account instant access for 6 months.

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Re: Spouse visa

Post by mavaas11 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:47 pm

lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:02 pm
can anyone please advise.

like I said I have a temp job offer that starts on 14 sep, but her visa expires middle October.

the job is for 14 weeks? is this enough ... do they prefer permanent jobs.

like I said I get pip £249 a month, so thats around £62.25 a week. So it's £116 we need, and I am short by about £54. so I need a job that's around about 6-8 hours a week. This job is about 14 hours so it'll be enough but it doesn't go on for very long as in it can be extended but it's a temporary contract.

as its adequate maintenance and NOT the other route, the link above suggests that if the job is non-salaried which it is, its paid hourly and it's LESS than 6 months, does not express a minimum there then it can be used.

is all that matters is it's active at time of application.

would really appreciate some help, very stressed about this at the moment :cry: I dont know whether to accept it or not

Also for a job i think you need 6 months statements, not sure ask someone here, but if you can get £7.5kish + , you would just need your pip statement with award letter and the £7,500 for 6 months in a instant bank account

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SPOUSE VISA Help!!

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:51 pm

OK, my wife's spouse visa runs out on 14th October 2020.
In the past we've used a solicitor but this time we are considering applying ourselves, as money is a little tight.
We are applying for the extension after 2.5 years.

But we've got a number of concerning issues, and can do with some advise on what to do by people who have been through the process

Where to apply
So...where do we apply, is it online if so on which website. Do we post the supporting documents?

I have been chasing a number of people for the documents we need but they may become available to us after the 14th October, can we add them onto our application after the 14th October? So you dont post them no more?

A2 test
My wife took the trinity A2 SELT last week and failed with a D result.
We have been studying for this for a number of months and I was entirely convinced she would get a C.
She doesn't understand why she failed, she said she didn't understand one question and the rest was fine and I did my own mini- test with her and she was answering correctly.
We are retaking the rest but it's a time scale.
If she passes and we get the certificate after the visa, then what?]
If she fails again we have no time left for another test, what do we do then?

Proof of address/cohabiting
My wife doesn't work, nor doesn't have any intention to work - we are Pakistani so it's sort of a family tradition that she would be a housewife and I'd go out to work....
So we didn't apply for a NI number.
We have many issues applying for a bank account, I left it too late to apply for one for her and they wanted a NI number when I tried a few months ago but the Job centre was shut and she needed a face to face appt.
For myself there is no issue - I have bank statements, credit card statements, and all assortment of letters
My my wife the applicant - we only really have NHS letters and GP letters, she has thryoid condition so we have all the letters for that from 2017-2020 and there is a letter for every year during these dates. She is an additional cardholder on my credit card and I have the PIN number and new card arriving letter which I can provide but nothing else. I do all the finances and she isn't very good at it, and doesn't have any interest in that sort of thing either.
What else could we get. Several banks have rejected her saying they want her visa to be at least six months to apply! I didn't know this at the time.

Financial requirement
I get PIP. This is valid until January 2021. I get £249 a month.
So...we don't have to meet the financial requirement but do have to meet adequate maintenance.
So is that say £120 a week? I haven't been employed for some time, until now.
It does in the FLM M booklet thing that you can provide payslips or employment of 6 months or less if it's less.
I commenced employment one in mid September 2020. I get paid next week (cutting it fine before her visa expires). I think I'll get paid about £300-400 for the month. But it's a temporary contract and only lasts till the end of the year but is likely to be extended.
employment two begins next week, this is a job for a year I think , 18 hours a week, so this will easily be enough to meet the requirement
Payslips only come next week too can I send these after we've applied?
I have been trying to find employment for six months and have been lucky to secure these jobs given the current climate but it's less than a month since commencing to her visa.

I'm worried, some advise would be great

Apart from the above what can we include

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Re: SPOUSE VISA Help!!

Post by seagul » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:40 pm

lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:51 pm
OK, my wife's spouse visa runs out on 14th October 2020.
In the past we've used a solicitor but this time we are considering applying ourselves, as money is a little tight.
We are applying for the extension after 2.5 years.

But we've got a number of concerning issues, and can do with some advise on what to do by people who have been through the process

Where to apply
So...where do we apply, is it online if so on which website. Do we post the supporting documents?

I have been chasing a number of people for the documents we need but they may become available to us after the 14th October, can we add them onto our application after the 14th October? So you dont post them no more?

A2 test
My wife took the trinity A2 SELT last week and failed with a D result.
We have been studying for this for a number of months and I was entirely convinced she would get a C.
She doesn't understand why she failed, she said she didn't understand one question and the rest was fine and I did my own mini- test with her and she was answering correctly.
We are retaking the rest but it's a time scale.
If she passes and we get the certificate after the visa, then what?]
If she fails again we have no time left for another test, what do we do then?

Proof of address/cohabiting
My wife doesn't work, nor doesn't have any intention to work - we are Pakistani so it's sort of a family tradition that she would be a housewife and I'd go out to work....
So we didn't apply for a NI number.
We have many issues applying for a bank account, I left it too late to apply for one for her and they wanted a NI number when I tried a few months ago but the Job centre was shut and she needed a face to face appt.
For myself there is no issue - I have bank statements, credit card statements, and all assortment of letters
My my wife the applicant - we only really have NHS letters and GP letters, she has thryoid condition so we have all the letters for that from 2017-2020 and there is a letter for every year during these dates. She is an additional cardholder on my credit card and I have the PIN number and new card arriving letter which I can provide but nothing else. I do all the finances and she isn't very good at it, and doesn't have any interest in that sort of thing either.
What else could we get. Several banks have rejected her saying they want her visa to be at least six months to apply! I didn't know this at the time.

Financial requirement
I get PIP. This is valid until January 2021. I get £249 a month.
So...we don't have to meet the financial requirement but do have to meet adequate maintenance.
So is that say £120 a week? I haven't been employed for some time, until now.
It does in the FLM M booklet thing that you can provide payslips or employment of 6 months or less if it's less.
I commenced employment one in mid September 2020. I get paid next week (cutting it fine before her visa expires). I think I'll get paid about £300-400 for the month. But it's a temporary contract and only lasts till the end of the year but is likely to be extended.
employment two begins next week, this is a job for a year I think , 18 hours a week, so this will easily be enough to meet the requirement
Payslips only come next week too can I send these after we've applied?
I have been trying to find employment for six months and have been lucky to secure these jobs given the current climate but it's less than a month since commencing to her visa.

I'm worried, some advise would be great

Apart from the above what can we include
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... form-flr-m

https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/help-support/o ... eDocuments


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... ikzOcnGwHV
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Re: SPOUSE VISA Help!!

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:00 am

thanks for the links

would appreciate some specific help/advise on my post.

really stressed about this :oops: :(

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Re: SPOUSE VISA Help!!

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:27 pm

anyone? advise appreciated.

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spouse visa extension - what happens if rejected

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:28 pm

if the worst happen and the visa extension was rejected do u immediately get a date to leave the UK/

or can you appeal it straight away and therefore you can stay until this decision made.

is there not a paper appeal option first before a oral one in a court.

court dates are very long waiting these days. can u stay until this court date comes?

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Re: SPOUSE VISA Help!!

Post by seagul » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:44 pm

lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:28 pm
if the worst happen and the visa extension was rejected do u immediately get a date to leave the UK/

or can you appeal it straight away and therefore you can stay until this decision made.

is there not a paper appeal option first before a oral one in a court.

court dates are very long waiting these days. can u stay until this court date comes?
Depending on the circumstances an flrfp visa under 10 years route can be offered as well in substitution of blanket refusal. Also an appeal opportunity may be provided instead, and in case of its in timely lodgement, there wouldn't be any need of leaving the country.
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Re: spouse visa extension - what happens if rejected

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HELP where to apply for spouse visa extension

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:46 am

I am in a maze on the .gov uk website!

everything I click takes me to applying on the basis of private life!

then I click another one and it goes back, very frustrating


want the right form for spouse visa extension after 2.5 yrs in the uk

thx in advance

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Re: spouse visa extension - what happens if rejected

Post by seagul » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:17 am

lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:46 am
I am in a maze on the .gov uk website!

everything I click takes me to applying on the basis of private life!

then I click another one and it goes back, very frustrating


want the right form for spouse visa extension after 2.5 yrs in the uk

thx in advance
Correct form is here for spouse visa extension:
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Re: spouse visa extension - what happens if rejected

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Re: HELP where to apply for spouse visa extension

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:41 pm

hi after 2.5 years in the uk
which one applies, I am so confused

Please choose the reason you are applying for an extension, this includes if you are switching to a partner visa from another type. (Required)

First extension as a partner (following an initial period of entry as a partner, or as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner of a settled person)

Additional extension as a partner

First application as a partner from within the UK (for example, you are currently in the UK on another type of visa or permission to stay)

You delayed your travel to the UK by more than 3 months after the issue of a visa and have not yet completed the required amount of time on a partner visa (not including as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner)

You require more time to meet the Knowledge of Language and Life in the UK requirements to apply for settlement

You were granted entry as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner, but have not yet married or entered into a civil partnership

You are applying for any other reason

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Re: HELP where to apply for spouse visa extension

Post by seagul » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:52 pm

lynntaylor4444 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:41 pm


First extension as a partner (following an initial period of entry as a partner, or as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner of a settled person)
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Re: HELP where to apply for spouse visa extension

Post by lynntaylor4444 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:00 am

THANK YOU.

also:
Responsible adult
XResponsible adult for biometrics

Can the other spouse be the responsible adult? or does it have to be other family?
Why will you not have a parent or legal guardian with you? - this is confusing! her parents live in Pakistan! mother in law and farther in law live in uk with us we live together but obvs not that.

XWere you related before you became partners? Yes
Your relationship to your partner COUSIN
How were you related to Mr ertert ertert before you became partners?
Other Give details of your previous relationship with your partner.

XWhat type of ceremony was your wedding or civil partnership? - this is a odd question
We have a civil marriage service at the register office, how do I write this?
Also a Nikaah ceremony. It was an arranged marriage. do we write both

Xtook the trinity college a2,
is this right?
How did you get your result? Online reference number Awarding body TRINITY COLLEGE

XDid the test assess your speaking and listening skills at a level equivalent to CEFR A1 or higher? A2 so yes?

XWhen did you last travel to the country where you were born and/or any other country whose nationality you hold? n/A
She came from Pakistan In 2017 for our marriage on a fiancé visa. then we went to a spouse visa. now extending it. Hasn't been back to Pakistan ever since. She was born there. So n/a is right?

XHave you previously lived in a country outside the UK including your country of birth? No
So is the correct answer Yes here?

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