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FLR HO Application questions

Post by olubee » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:49 pm

HELP PLEASE!

Was advised to apply for FLR (HRO) as a means to extend my leave due to Covid- currently on ODW- overseas domestic worker visa but i have to shield due to high risk (health issues). I do not want to risk my health by taking a flight and going back until I can take a vaccination. However, I was NOW told that FLR HRO visa will be decided in 2-3 months MAX! For £2200 cost of visa + nhs charge, 2-3 months extension is not going to help me as vaccine might not be available and Covid is still a real risk! My visa expires in 10 DAYS! What should I do? I am very worried now.

ANYONE HAVE EXPERIENCE OF ACTUAL TIMES FOR PROCESSING FLR HRO IN 2020? Thanks

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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by CR001 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:59 pm

You do realise that this application, if short term visa is granted, doesn't permit you to work, study or get public funds either, page 10 in the link below.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 1.0ext.pdf

What are your compelling health issues that you cannot travel back to your home country?

Who advised you to make this application? Why did you not renew your domestic worker visa?? An FLR(HO) approval, will cancel and invalidate your previous visa.

Also, if you are from Ghana, as your flag indicates, they have very low cases of new infections etc. Accra airport reopened yesterday.
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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by olubee » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:13 pm

Thanks for your reply. Pls see mine

You do realise that this application, if short term visa is granted, doesn't permit you to work, study or get public funds either, page 10 in the link below.

YES, I am currently shielding and my employer treats me like family. They continue to pay me my full salary altough I am not working technically due to shielding. I am not looking for access to work or study or benefits. I have a very comfortable situation and they have my best interest in heart.



What are your compelling health issues that you cannot travel back to your home country?

I am sickle cell and so I am at extremely high risk of complications if I get covid. This risk is documented by health organisations.

Who advised you to make this application? Why did you not renew your domestic worker visa?? An FLR(HO) approval, will cancel and invalidate your previous visa.

I was advised by lawyer (and i have seen on Home Office website) that cannot renew ODW visa if current visa was granted for 6 months. There is no option to renew unless the current visa was granted for less than 6 months. Of course if this was possible to extend, my employer is willing to do this as would be the easiest option. If you know otherwise, please let me know. My current visa was 6 months granted March 2020.


Also, if you are from Ghana, as your flag indicates, they have very low cases of new infections etc. Accra airport reopened yesterday.

I am from Ghana but my country of residence is Nigeria- where i came from with my employers. There have been plans to re-open but nothing yet. also, due to Covid, my employer is also staying in UK for longer because she is also high risk due to her health. The issue is not that we cannot fly due to closure, it is that I have a serious risk to my health and there is a high chance that if i get covid, i will get very very sick. I want to stay here with my employer until we are both able to get a vaccince OR Covid is no longer a pandemic and the risk to us is shown to be significantly lower.

I hope to hear back if you have further advise. thanks

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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by olubee » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:06 pm

Hello. I would like to know whether application for exceptional assurance- if granted- will make me UNABLE to apply for FLR HRO if situation doesnt change.

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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:54 pm

olubee wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:13 pm
I want to stay here with my employer until we are both able to get a vaccince OR Covid is no longer a pandemic and the risk to us is shown to be significantly lower.
I have a lot friends from both countries (ghana + Nigeria) between the ages of 35-72 years and all of them are healthily working who also confirms that their countries have been contracted with virus very mildly than other EU countries (same as CR001 said earlier). In my opinion here you might be on more risk than your own country because here as per the current analysis the bame community has been hitting more hard disproportionately. Also there is no timeframe within which the vaccine will be discovered but whenever it will come in hands, then more likely these will be injected first on their own British people on ventilators.
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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by olubee » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:15 pm

Thanks.

My concern is that I am in a high risk group due to MY personal health conditions.

We are all unique and the risks are different for each person. I know the risks to myself and so I have been isolating since April.

I know FLR HRO might not be the best option for me, but there is no other form to apply for Leave outside the rules. There is also no way to extend my current visa here.

IF I contract Covid- at some point during my journey- on the train to the airport/in the taxi/at the airport/on the plane/at my arrival destination...due to my existing health conditions, I am an an increased risk of severe complications and illness. That is a fact. And so I wish to continue to mitigate this risk by continuing to stay put- for now- until much more is known about how I can effectively reduce the risk of exposure AND get back home. I am not looking to stay in the UK long-term. I do not wish to stay longer than is necessary. Now, I am safe in a house- being looked after and i need not go out and expose myself. I will certainly expose myself by making the flight back and that is not a risk i wish to take if it can be avoided at least until there is clear guidance for at-risk people like me that it is safe to travel by air.

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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:59 pm

olubee wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:15 pm

IF I contract Covid- at some point during my journey- on the train to the airport/in the taxi/at the airport/on the plane/at my arrival destination...due to my existing health conditions, Now, I am safe in a house- being looked after and i need not go out and expose myself. I will certainly expose myself by making the flight back and that is not a risk i wish to take if it can be avoided at least until there is clear guidance for at-risk people like me that it is safe to travel by air.
Your proposition is generically valid to some extents but unfortunately isn't invincible enough over immigration matters which always refute to all counterfactual occurrences.
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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by olubee » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:18 pm

I guess I would have to wait and see what the HO decides.

I do not expect that I will be required to provide evidence of people with similar health conditions catching Covid-19 as a direct result of air travel and then going on to develop severe complications as a result.
The WHO and CDC have clearly stated (and I can submit evidence of this) that individuals with my health conditions are at increased risk and should avoid air travel.

It would be interesting to see how the HO evidences these "counterfactual occcurences" seeing as international travel to and from Africa has been severely limited since March and it is only in the next few weeks we will begin to see whether the re-opening of borders will lead to increased Covid cases in Nigeria for example. Bear in mind that Nigeria with a population of over 160million, has carried out less than 500k tests- and that is the "official" number, so the actual number is definitely less. They have no idea, neither do the local authorities care how many people actually have Covid or are dying from it. I know at least 20 people who have died from complications of Covid. They were all "healthy" and aged between 30 and 70.

Hopefully, soon Covid will be behind us and we can carry on with our lives. Not everyone wishes to stay in the UK on a permanent basis.

(P.S. if I was not decently educated, I would have found your response impossible to decipher.)

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Re: FLR HO Application questions

Post by seagul » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:43 pm

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus ... -residents

At the moment the only temporary exemptions/concessions which ostensibly are available are in above link. But unfortunately the major gamut of public news which we most often watch/listen/read in tv/newspaper is for their local British people.
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