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Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by noz173 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:16 pm

Hello everyone,

Thanks in advance to whoever is monitoring these posts - your replies helped me enormously when we made the first application.

I am a British citizen and sponsored my husband’s visa application in 2018. He was already here on a tier 2 work visa and after we married we applied for the first FLR(M) spouse visa. This was approved on 26 April 2018 and the expiry date on his current biometrics is 26 October 2020.

I’d appreciate your help with a couple queries please as the first time we applied we used the paper form and attended a same day appointment, and the process is slightly different now.

1) as the expiry date on his biometrics states 26 October 2020, I’m assuming we have until this date to submit the online application, is that correct?

2) do you think there would be any issues if we submitted the application on the last day, being 26 October? The reason I ask is because I recently started a new job back in April. I will have 6 months worth of payslips (for the financial requirement) by the application date but unfortunately my salary is paid in on the 26th the month so I won’t be able to provide evidence of corresponding bank statements showing salary for 6 months unless I submit the application on the 26th.

The thought of leaving everything to the last day of my husbands current visa terrifies me but I’m otherwise afraid that if I submit on the 23/24th October, they will reject the application if my corresponding bank statement for the 6th month is dated a day after the application date.

Grateful for some advice here - Option 1) have all evidence in hand but only if I submit the online application on the last day; or Option 2) submit my application on the day I receive the 6th month payslip and just provide a post dated bank statement when uploading the documents online.

Thank you for your help!

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:37 pm

noz173 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:16 pm
Hello everyone,

Thanks in advance to whoever is monitoring these posts - your replies helped me enormously when we made the first application.

I am a British citizen and sponsored my husband’s visa application in 2018. He was already here on a tier 2 work visa and after we married we applied for the first FLR(M) spouse visa. This was approved on 26 April 2018 and the expiry date on his current biometrics is 26 October 2020.

I’d appreciate your help with a couple queries please as the first time we applied we used the paper form and attended a same day appointment, and the process is slightly different now.

1) as the expiry date on his biometrics states 26 October 2020, I’m assuming we have until this date to submit the online application, is that correct? Yes, that is the last date by which you can normallt submit your online application.

2) do you think there would be any issues if we submitted the application on the last day, being 26 October? No, if it is exact The reason I ask is because I recently started a new job back in April. I will have 6 months worth of payslips (for the financial requirement) by the application date but unfortunately my salary is paid in on the 26th the month so I won’t be able to provide evidence of corresponding bank statements showing salary for 6 months unless I submit the application on the 26th.

The thought of leaving everything to the last day of my husbands current visa terrifies me but I’m otherwise afraid that if I submit on the 23/24th October, they will reject the application if my corresponding bank statement for the 6th month is dated a day after the application date.

Grateful for some advice here - Option 1) have all evidence in hand but only if I submit the online application on the last day; or Option 2) submit my application on the day I receive the 6th month payslip and just provide a post dated bank statement when uploading the documents online.

Thank you for your help!

Kind regards
N
Were you by any means employed before covid-19 started? Is the other spouse employed?

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by noz173 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:44 pm

Thank you!

New employment started mid April 2020.

I was employed before this date, but I had my own company of which I was a director and received a salary and dividends but I dissolved the company a few months ago when I started my new role. The application form only requires 6 months of payslips, and I’ve been at my current employer for 6 months so it’s fine and avoids the drawn out documentation requirements for when you’re self employed!

My husband, the applicant, was working pre-Covid but has been freelance since late last year. He would easily meet the financial requirement but again, as self employed, it’s a lot more straight forward to rely on my employment salary which is comfortably above the financial requirement, and I’ll have an employers letter confirming my start date, nature of employment and salary,

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:53 pm

noz173 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:44 pm
Thank you!

New employment started mid April 2020.

I was employed before this date, but I had my own company of which I was a director and received a salary and dividends but I dissolved the company a few months ago when I started my new role. The application form only requires 6 months of payslips, and I’ve been at my current employer for 6 months so it’s fine and avoids the drawn out documentation requirements for when you’re self employed!

My husband, the applicant, was working pre-Covid but has been freelance since late last year. He would easily meet the financial requirement but again, as self employed, it’s a lot more straight forward to rely on my employment salary which is comfortably above the financial requirement, and I’ll have an employers letter confirming my start date, nature of employment and salary,
Well understood, as you noted leaving it all till the last day is dicey, so please do get everything ship shape and apply as soon as you can on your intended date.

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by noz173 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:23 pm

Thanks again for replying so quickly.

I would definitely prefer to submit the application at least 4/5 days before the visa expiry. The only issue with that is not being able to provide the corresponding bank statement for my 6th payslip as my salary will only be paid in on the 27th. Do you think this would be an issue? If I submit the application on the 23rd Oct, would they reject a bank statement that was dated 27th Oct?

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:24 pm

noz173 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:23 pm
Thanks again for replying so quickly.

I would definitely prefer to submit the application at least 4/5 days before the visa expiry. The only issue with that is not being able to provide the corresponding bank statement for my 6th payslip as my salary will only be paid in on the 27th. Do you think this would be an issue? If I submit the application on the 23rd Oct, would they reject a bank statement that was dated 27th Oct?

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I would think it will not be acceptable. That means on the day of application you did not qualify since the evidence you are using as support comes after the application date.
E.G. Even for people whose application process got stuck due to covid, any evidence like account statements, payslips being used now is till the date of submission not being told to supply those dated after submission despite the months that has passed.

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by noz173 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:32 pm

Understood, thank you!

I guess I’ll have to suck up the anxiety and submit everything on the 27th, being the last day! :cry:

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by seagul » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:15 pm

noz173 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:32 pm
Understood, thank you!

I guess I’ll have to suck up the anxiety and submit everything on the 27th, being the last day! :cry:
If the date of visa expiry is on 26th then 27th will lead to an out of time application. Simply apply on the last day which will perfectly be fine provided you got everything in possession dated till the date of application. Aside this, if you and/or your partner has cash savings of £62500 then that will considerably mitigate your worries.
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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by noz173 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:19 pm

Thanks Seagull! Apologies that was a typo - I meant the 26th. 26th is the last day of his visa and the date I suppose I’ll have to submit the application. We do have cash savings but unfortunately they haven’t been held in an account for the required time as I only recently liquidated my company and withdrew the funds.

I’ve already filled out the online form and saved the answers, next step is submission and payment.

Which brings up another query - Last time we logged into the online form a pop up came up saying there had been some changes to the application form and that we should go back and check, but the online form didn’t bring up any incomplete sections so isn’t clear at all what might have changed. When you go back to the previous section it just shows your answers and there was no prompt to answer anything new. Has anyone had this issue before? Would you suggest redoing the form from scratch with a new email address, or not necessary?

Thanks everyone :) this forum is really helpful and I’m super grateful for your time and responses.

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Re: Spouse visa - first extension queries

Post by seagul » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:31 pm

noz173 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:19 pm

I’ve already filled out the online form and saved the answers, next step is submission and payment.

Which brings up another query - Last time we logged into the online form a pop up came up saying there had been some changes to the application form and that we should go back and check, but the online form didn’t bring up any incomplete sections so isn’t clear at all what might have changed. When you go back to the previous section it just shows your answers and there was no prompt to answer anything new. Has anyone had this issue before? Would you suggest redoing the form from scratch with a new email address, or not necessary?
Better to wait a bit while keeping a constant eye over it which most likely be a glitch/ maintenance work unless something new has changed dramatically to this convention from very recently.
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IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by noz173 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:52 am

Hi everyone

We originally applied for FLR(M) and the biometric permit was granted from 27 April 2018 to 27 October 2020. This was granted on a 5 year route.

We applied for the flr(m) extension this morning (27th) - ideally didn’t want to leave it to the last day but I only got my 6th month payslip this morning.

Application was submitted fine and we have all the required supporting documentation. However, when the page took me to pay the IHS fee it calculated a higher amount. I thought it was £400 per year (so 2.5 years would be £1,000). However, I was charged £1560 which is an unusual amount and I can’t figure out how this was calculated.

Please could someone give me a steer on why this might have happened and if I can do anything about it?

Application was submitted online and I guess due to Covid there was no other option than to apply for the standard service. Can’t seem to book a biometric appointment at the moment as all the core, enhanced and premium service locations don’t have any availability up to end of November at the moment.

Many thanks!
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Re: IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by TODMATT » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:15 pm

noz173 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:52 am
Hi everyone

We originally applied for FLR(M) and the biometric permit was granted from 27 April 2018 to 27 October 2020. This was granted on a 5 year route.

We applied for the flr(m) extension this morning (27th) - ideally didn’t want to leave it to the last day but I only got my 6th month payslip this morning.

Application was submitted fine and we have all the required supporting documentation. However, when the page took me to pay the IHS fee it calculated a higher amount. I thought it was £400 per year (so 2.5 years would be £1,000). However, I was charged £1560 which is an unusual amount and I can’t figure out how this was calculated.

Please could someone give me a steer on why this might have happened and if I can do anything about it?

Application was submitted online and I guess due to Covid there was no other option than to apply for the standard service. Can’t seem to book a biometric appointment at the moment as all the core, enhanced and premium service locations don’t have any availability up to end of November at the moment.

Many thanks!
Nola
You have been charged the correct amount because IHS fee has increased today 27th.

Each year is £624

"You’ll pay half of the yearly amount if your application includes part of a year that is less than 6 months."

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigrati ... w-much-pay
£312 half a year + 2 years(£1248) = £1560
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Re: IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by noz173 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:39 pm

Bummer, had no idea it went up today!! At the time of application the form wasn’t updated and still said it was £400 per year.

Thank you for responding so quickly and confirming this.
Christmas is definitely cancelled this year! :)

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Re: IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by CR001 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:55 pm

Can you clarify exactly when her current visa expired as you previously posted it expired on the 26th, which was yesterday, and submitting today inline would be an out of time apllication.
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Re: IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by noz173 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:38 pm

Thank you CR001 - Apologies the previous post was my error. Current biometrics definitely says valid from 27 April 2018 - 27 October 2020, and the extension application was submitted today (27th).

Thanks again!

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Re: IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by poper » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:30 pm

noz173 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:39 pm
Bummer, had no idea it went up today!! At the time of application the form wasn’t updated and still said it was £400 per year.

Thank you for responding so quickly and confirming this.
Christmas is definitely cancelled this year! :)
UKVI should've atleast sent a note to those applicants who'd left their applications incomplete on the fee increase. The increase was substantial and would've caught many more like you with rude shock :shock:
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Re: IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by noz173 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:43 pm

An additional £560 is definitely hard to swallow. I just hope the additional funding is indeed going to the NHS and not another way for the gov to clawback Covid spend.

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Re: IHS surcharge - incorrect fee paid

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:40 pm

poper wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:30 pm
noz173 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:39 pm
Bummer, had no idea it went up today!! At the time of application the form wasn’t updated and still said it was £400 per year.

Thank you for responding so quickly and confirming this.
Christmas is definitely cancelled this year! :)
UKVI should've atleast sent a note to those applicants who'd left their applications incomplete on the fee increase. The increase was substantial and would've caught many more like you with rude shock :shock:
They are not obliged to. The information about proposed increase and updates on it are readily available in the public domain.

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