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3 month a year absence

Post by notirishyet » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:50 pm

Hi,

I've heard that one on Stamp 4 cannot be absent from the State for longer than 3 month per year or the residency gets revoked. But I struggle to find any official information. Does anybody has a link?

I plan to apply for citizenship next year and I'm sick counting the days I can travel tbh. Once I get my documents back, I want to make up for the time lost with my family. The question is how long can I be absent to not affect the processing of my application or worse - denied entry at the border?

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Re: 3 month a year absence

Post by littlerr » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:26 am

All immigrant based permissions have an inherent requirement of maximum 3-month absence per year, with a few exceptions (EU Treaty, investment scheme, pregnancy, family bereavement etc).

I have not been able to find the information myself but I had confirmed this with the both the border staff and official BMU INIS unit.

Note that the 3-month limit applies to your Stamp 4 permission, not to the citizenship application. Your citizenship application has a maximum absence limit of 6 weeks per year.

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Re: 3 month a year absence

Post by notirishyet » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:02 pm

Yeah, but 6 weeks is only before I submit the application, right?
After that I can travel for 3 months?

I still find the lack of official info on that strange.
Like how strict is that, e.g. I travel 4 months instead of 3? Instant "black mark" or some warning first?

What about the pregnancy case you mentioned there?

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Re: 3 month a year absence

Post by littlerr » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:56 pm

You are still required to report your travel details to INIS if you intend to travel for more than 6 weeks per annum after your application. It is explicitly pointed out on the citizenship webpage.
If you are outside the State for longer than 6 weeks after you submit your application, you must notify ISD by letter or email to explain why.
Strictly speaking, 90 days mean 90 days. Not 1 day more. However, in reality, the Irish immigration unit is very lenient compared to most other countries. Border officers don't ask that many questions. COVID-19 is another factor that may cause people to be stuck abroad. Many people were able to get in without any questions asked. They won't be able to get your absence days at the border instantly.

It also depends on your nationality. As an EU national who has lived in Ireland for 5 years, you automatically obtain permanent residency and you can leave for 4 months or 6 months or 10 months - nobody would give you any hard time (as long as you don't want to apply for citizenship).

As a non-EU who has a residence permission (other than 4EUFAM and IIP), your future renewal *may* be impacted if you leave the state for more than 90 days, although nobody really has any detailed numbers as to how many people were rejected renewal or being refused entry solely based on this.

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Re: 3 month a year absence

Post by notirishyet » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:15 pm

The link doesn't work.

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Re: 3 month a year absence

Post by notirishyet » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:39 pm

Ok, I found that:
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/citizen ... processing

Does it mean 6 weeks per year same as for pre-application rules? Or 6 weeks in a row?

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Re: 3 month a year absence

Post by littlerr » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:30 pm

Apologies about the link.
6 weeks in a year.

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