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British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:18 am

Dear Sir/Madam,

I submitted my application for Indefinite Leave to Remain in early October 2020 and still waiting for a decision from Home Office. My husband has been granted Indefinite Leave to Remain in June 2020. My baby born in England in April 2020. I have the following questions:

(1) Does my newborn baby eligible to apply for British Citizenship? If so, please could you advise what is the right form to fill up?

(2) When can I submit the citizenship application of my newborn baby at the latest?

Thank you.

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by CR001 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:52 am

1. Yes, form MN1

2. At any time before child turns 18.
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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:56 pm

Dear CR001,

Thanks for your reply. I am now in the process of filling up the MN1 form. I have a following questions with regard to filling up the form:

(1) Have you lived at your current address for 5 years? As my son born in April 2020, I have to say no. However, the system doesn't let me proceed further, I was required to fill up previous address which is impossible, as my son only 6 month old.

(2) Country of nationality
Type the name of a country; use the arrow keys to navigate and 'enter' to select one.
If you have previous or additional nationalities, you will be able to add these later in the application. 

What should I fill up in this item? So far my son has British Birth Certificate. My husband and I are both Malaysian. My son hasn't been registered in Malaysian Embassy.

(3) One of the requirements of the first referee is as below:
Referees must:
know or have known the applicant personally for more than 3 years

My son is only 6 month old, it is impossible to find someone who knows him for more than 3 years.

I would be much appreciated if you are able to advise me with the above 3 items.
Thank you.

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:37 pm

1) Say yes.
2) Malaysian.
3) Does not matter. HO knows that.
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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:07 pm

Hi Culliman,

Many thanks for your reply.
For the registration of British Citizenship, I am required to provide 2 referees.
I guess there must be some requirements to be qualified as referees.
I struggle to find this within the www.gov.uk
Please could you provide me a weblink that listing qualified referees?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you in advance.

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:09 pm

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:45 pm

Hi Cullinan,

Many thanks for your prompt reply.

I have looked into your provided document. The document stated that 'For all applications, the second referee must normally be the holder of a British citizen passport and either a professional person or over the age of 25.'

May I ask is there any document that listing the acceptable professional person?

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by CR001 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:40 pm

ILR-1982 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:45 pm
Hi Cullinan,

Many thanks for your prompt reply.

I have looked into your provided document. The document stated that 'For all applications, the second referee must normally be the holder of a British citizen passport and either a professional person or over the age of 25.'

May I ask is there any document that listing the acceptable professional person?

Thank you.
Page 24 in the document link below.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... y-guidance
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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:18 pm

My son born in England in April 2020 and my husband got his indefinite leave to remain in June 2020. My husband and I are Malaysian citizens. I am now applying for British Citizenship for my son through MN1. Due to this pandemic, I haven't brought my son to the Malaysia embassy (London) to apply for a Malaysian Passport. Furthermore, Malaysia does not recognize dual nationality. Consequently, I am not able to provide any required details issued by the Malaysian government in the MN1 form e.g. travel documents. Would it be more advisable to acquire for Malaysian passport, which makes the application more straightforward? In particular, I feel awkward when answering the following questions:

Do you have a valid national identity card?
No

Do you have a most recent expired national identity card?
No

Do you have a travel document?
No

Explain why you are unable to provide a valid form of identification.
Malaysian doesn't recognize dual nationality, and I intend to register as a British citizen. In this case, I wouldn't apply for a Malaysian Passport and National ID issued by the Malaysian Government.


Looking into the yellow highlighted item, does the answer acceptable? Would it be more advisable to apply for a Malaysian Passport to proceed with the British Citizenship Application (MN1)?

For your information, the only identification document of my son is a British Birth Certificate. Your advice is very much appreciated. Many thanks

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:34 pm

No. Your child does not need any Malaysian documents to be registered as British Citizen. You only need child’s UK birth certificate and at least one parent’s ILR status.

However, even mentioning child’s nationality as “Malaysian” will have no impact on your child’s registration as BC.

You do not need any Malaysian documents for the child.
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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:58 am

Hi Cullinan,

Thanks for your reply.
So, in terms of answering the following question in MN1 form:

2) Country of nationality
Type the name of a country; use the arrow keys to navigate and 'enter' to select one.
If you have previous or additional nationalities, you will be able to add these later in the application. 


I just put my son as 'Malaysian' without supporting evidence. Is this acceptable for the home office?

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:04 am

No evidence is needed. Many including myself have done the same for my daughter where we input home country as nationality for our child and had no issues. The only other option you have is to select “stateless.”
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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:48 pm

Dear Sir/Madam,

My son born in April 2020 and My husband has been granted Indefinite Leave to Remain in June 2020. We would like to register our son as British Citizen. At the moment, I am having 2 referees but not sure if the referees are acceptable?

The first Referee:
Church Pastor (with title Rev), above 25 years old, British Citizen

The second Referee:
Mechanical Engineer (with Chartered Membership from Engineering Council), above 25 years old, British Citizen

Please could you advise if the above 2 referees are acceptable for registration of British Citizenship of my son? Thank you.

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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:49 pm

Yes
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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:02 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:49 pm
Yes
Thanks for your reply. I am at the stage of preparing the documents for my son's British Registration. In the home office online system, I need your advice on the required items as below:

Proof of [Father's name] parental responsibility for [Son's Name].

Proof of [Mother's name] parental responsibility for [Son's Name].
Proof of [Mother's name] parental responsibility can include:
A copy of the birth certificate
A parental responsibility order, care order, adoption order or special guardianship order


[Son's Name] birth certificate (showing details of both parents)

For the above three items, I can only provide the British Birth Certificate of my son. In the Birth certificate, that includes me and my husband's name. In other words, one document (British Birth Certificate) addresses the three items. Would this be okay? If not, please could you advise?

For the item as below:

A letter of consent from [Son's Name] parent(s) or legal guardian(s)

Please could you advise where could we download the consent letter within the home office weblink? Or we have to write a consent letter with the signatures of me and my husband?

Again, your advice is much appreciated. Thank you.

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Post by CULLINAN » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:05 pm

1) Yes

2)
Consent to the application:

Mother’s consent:

I (Full name of mother) consent to this application for the registration of (Full name of child) as a British Citizen.

Signature:
Date:
Address:
Mobile:

Father’s consent:

I (Full name of father) consent to this application for the registration of (Full name of child) as a British Citizen.

Signature:
Date:
Address:
Mobile:
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Re: British Citizenship - Child

Post by ILR-1982 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:02 pm

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thanks for your prompt reply.
I looked into the referee declaration form on supporting the application of British Registration of my son (under 1 year old). It seems that there is no mention anywhere about the countersign of photo, perhaps I miss out this point?
May I check with you if we need countersign of the photograph of my son?
If so, how do I effectively do that since I am expected to submit everything online?
Your advice is much appreciated.
Thank you.

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Post by CR001 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:14 pm

Photo is not countersigned. Just the actual form with the photo on. Once signed by both referees, you upload with supporting documents.
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Re: British Citizenship - Child under 18

Post by ILR-1982 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:46 pm

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am approaching the end of filling up an application form for my son (10 months old) to register for his British Citizenship. At the end of the system, I have been asked to choose one of the following items:

I confirm that:
(Required)

A. I am the applicant

B. I am a representative of the applicant and have been authorised to act on their behalf and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

Obviously, my son is only 10 months old and he is not able to apply by himself. As a mother, shall I choose A. or B?


Your advice is much appreciated.
Thank you.

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Post by CULLINAN » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:42 pm

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British Citizenship - Report a change of circumstances

Post by ILR-1982 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:48 pm

Dear Sir/Madam,

I sent in an online application for British Registration on 28th February for my son of 11 month old. During the application, only my husband has Indefinite leave to remain but I am still under Tier 2 dependent visa. Therefore, in the application form, I only fill up 'yes' for the father having the settlement, and I have NO settlement during the time of sending the application.

I just received an email from home office today (15th March 2021) which stated that my application for Indefinite Leave to Remain has been successful. Of course, this is a very good news. Therefore, my son application needs to be updated in such a way that both father and mother have settlement.

I understand that there is a home office section informing us about 'Report a Change of Circumstances' as follow:
https://www.gov.uk/change-circumstances-visa-brp
However, it doesn't seems to have a clear indication of how to update my son's application for British Registration. Please could you advise?

Your help is very much appreciated.
Thank you.

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Post by CR001 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:05 pm

There is nothing you have to update!!
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