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Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm

Hi all,

My wife initial spouse visa application granted 11/102018. At the time of applications I had submitted Tenancy agreement for 12 months period along landlord letter. However Lanlord advised me to vacant the property end of September due to urgent renovation work need to be carried out. Luckily I singed another Tenancy on 27/09/2018 just before visiting my wife back home in 28/08/2018. I forgot to inform HO for change of Circumstances.
Is this going to affect her visa extension and future application such as ILR/ Settlement

I intend to apply in June 2021. Her Visa will expire in 11/07/2021.

Do I have to inform HO about this in a covering letter?
I have questions about documents that I will ask later.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:33 pm

TJUK wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm
Hi all,

My wife initial spouse visa application granted 11/102018. At the time of applications I had submitted Tenancy agreement for 12 months period along landlord letter. However Lanlord advised me to vacant the property end of September due to urgent renovation work need to be carried out. Luckily I singed another Tenancy on 27/09/2018 just before visiting my wife back home in 28/08/2018. I forgot to inform HO for change of Circumstances.
Is this going to affect her visa extension and future application such as ILR/ Settlement No effect.

I intend to apply in June 2021. Her Visa will expire in 11/07/2021.

Do I have to inform HO about this in a covering letter?
I have questions about documents that I will ask later.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:34 pm

TJUK wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm
Hi all,

My wife initial spouse visa application granted 11/102018. At the time of applications I had submitted Tenancy agreement for 12 months period along landlord letter. However Lanlord advised me to vacant the property end of September due to urgent renovation work need to be carried out. Luckily I singed another Tenancy on 27/09/2018 just before visiting my wife back home in 28/08/2018. I forgot to inform HO for change of Circumstances.
Is this going to affect her visa extension and future application such as ILR/ Settlement it won't affect

I intend to apply in June 2021. Her Visa will expire in 11/07/2021.

Do I have to inform HO about this in a covering letter?
I have questions about documents that I will ask later.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:50 pm

Thank you for the prompt answer.
Can you please advice on the second point that Should I explain the issue on the covering letter?
The reason I am asking this because I read in this forum that online application form ask for previous address that will be home country address not the address where we intended to live at the time of initial application.

Documents issue

We have a joint NatWest account, however in July 2020 I identified an error on the post code which now corrected by Bank and send me a copy of Bank Statement via post for the period January 2019 to July 2020. Should I have submit both statements with incorrect/ correct post code and explain it in covering letter? Please note every month Statement format is different than the one I received for January 19 to July 2020.
Would appreciate experts advice. Many thanks

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:11 pm

TJUK wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:50 pm
Thank you for the prompt answer.
Can you please advice on the second point that Should I explain the issue on the covering letter?
The reason I am asking this because I read in this forum that online application form ask for previous address that will be home country address not the address where we intended to live at the time of initial application.
Only those addresses where you have physically been resided would be needed to disclose.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:14 pm

TJUK wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm

Documents issue

We have a joint NatWest account, however in July 2020 I identified an error on the post code which now corrected by Bank and send me a copy of Bank Statement via post for the period January 2019 to July 2020. Should I have submit both statements with incorrect/ correct post code and explain it in covering letter? Please note every month Statement format is different than the one I received for January 19 to July 2020.
Would appreciate experts advice. Many thanks
No issue, but moving forward, better to send only those ones which are issued in correct postcode along with those not having the correct postcode.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:06 pm

Hi All
Thank you for responses.

To avoid confusion in relation to incorrect post code on Joint Bank Statement for 2019 period it is better not to include it. Any option on this?

Below is the lists of documents I intend to submit

Proof of identity
Wife Passport full scan
Husband British Passport Bio pages
Child British Passport Bio pages

Evidence of Residence
2018

Tenancy letter dated 27/09/2018 wife name shown before her arrival in U.K. 27/10/2018

2019
Wife NI letter January
Husband TSB Bank Statement Match
Council Tax Bill Joint 2019-2020
Wife NHS letter June
Husband NHS letter July
Gas Bill Joint August-October
Husband Telephone Bill November
Wife Home Start letter December

2020
Wife NHS letter January
Husband Pension letter February
Council Tax Bill Joint 2020-2021
Husband Tax letter July
Wife Barclays Statement August
NatWest Bank Statement Joint July - September
Gas Bill Joint November-December (awaiting)

2021
Council Tax Bill 2021-2022 (awaiting)

Life events

Marriage Certificate
Son Birth Certificate

Sponsor Financil Documents
Online Pay slips October 2020 - May2021
Employer letter
NatWest Bank Statement October 2020 - May 2021

Other Documents
Husband Child Benefit letter November 19
NatWest Bank Statement where CHB paid October 2019
Child NHS letter January 2020
NATWEST Bank Statement for CHB paid April 2020
Child NHS letter July 2020

Please advise if above documents are sufficient or do I have to add some more.

Also explain how documents can be uploaded online? Like we have to select all documents and then press upload or I have upload then individually for each section and then press submit at the end.

Would appreciate experts advice.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:16 pm

How about A2/B1 ielts test /Naric comparability report (if from none-English speaking country) Regarding statements with incorrect postcode, these can be sidelined provided its doesn't hurt materially to the cohabitation/financial evidences. Regarding uploading see following official source:

https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/help-support/o ... eDocuments

https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/sopr ... as/FAQ.pdf
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:12 pm

Hi

Thank you for your reply and links provided.

Apologies forgot to mentioned about English test.
She passed A1 test at the time of initial application.

Now she has passed her B1 test on October 2020. Test centre was British Council Uk. Does she needs to do A2 exam too?

Please advise me if the lists of documents mentioned earlier covers cohabitation evidence for 2 years without needing the joint bank statement for the year 2019. Apologies I am confused.

I read the guidance provided but still confused how it works if I choose to upload documents myself. Are the saying I have to upload each document individually by clicking upload button or I can select all documents and then click upload button. A step by step guidance would be appreciated.

Awaiting for your kind reply.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:42 am

TJUK wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:12 pm
Hi

Thank you for your reply and links provided.

Apologies forgot to mentioned about English test.
She passed A1 test at the time of initial application.

Now she has passed her B1 test on October 2020. Test centre was British Council Uk. Does she needs to do A2 exam too? No, B1 is higher than A2 and she has the advantage to use it for subsequent applications if clauses are met.

Please advise me if the lists of documents mentioned earlier covers cohabitation evidence for 2 years without needing the joint bank statement for the year 2019. Apologies I am confused. Let the documents be 2 years from the date of application counted backwards, disregard first 6 month spent in UK.

I read the guidance provided but still confused how it works if I choose to upload documents myself. Are the saying I have to upload each document individually by clicking upload button or I can select all documents and then click upload button. A step by step guidance would be appreciated.
As you get along on the application you will see how it work, you got to try some things at your end !
Awaiting for your kind reply.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:25 am

Hi all

Thank for your kind response.

I just wanted to be sure that the lists of above documents covers different sources and spread evenly for 2 years and met cohabitation criteria.
Can you please confirm if they met the conditions?

On the other note if documents are not enough, I can provide Joint Bank (online) with correct address and post code for 2019. Please note online Bank Statement format is different than the paper copy.
Your help would be much appreciated
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:10 am

TJUK wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:25 am
Hi all

Thank for your kind response.

I just wanted to be sure that the lists of above documents covers different sources and spread evenly for 2 years and met cohabitation criteria.
Can you please confirm if they met the conditions?
If possible then make sure to attach only those cohabitation evidences in sole names which generated in same months.
TJUK wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:25 am
On the other note if documents are not enough, I can provide Joint Bank (online) with correct address and post code for 2019. Please note online Bank Statement format is different than the paper copy.
Your help would be much appreciated
Many Thanks
Online copy sometimes are dissimilar than the ones printed in branch or come in post.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:59 pm

Hi again

Thank for the kind responses.

So is it ok to submit online PDF bank statements?

Do I have print them and get them stamped by the bank and scan them? Or I can directly upload online Statement without stamps?

I only got mixture of single and Joint documents listed above spread for 2 years.

Seagul can you please confirm if those are meeting different sources criteria and number of documents required?

Apologies as I am new to this process.

Your help would be appreciated.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:17 pm

TJUK wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:59 pm
Hi again

Thank for the kind responses.

1. So is it ok to submit online PDF bank statements?

2. Do I have print them and get them stamped by the bank and scan them? Or I can directly upload online Statement without stamps?

3. I only got mixture of single and Joint documents listed above spread for 2 years.

4. Seagul can you please confirm if those are meeting different sources criteria and number of documents required?

Apologies as I am new to this process.

Your help would be appreciated.

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1. Yes
2. If these resembles to original without pacifically marked as "online" then straight can be uploaded without being stamped.
3. Fine.
4. Your cohabitation evidences are diverse & enough but only require a simpler diy work which is to only select & attach those sole named evidences which generated in same month. For example HMRC letter issued in Jan 2019 in applicant's name then attach your (sponsor) named telephone bill issued in same month and so on.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:09 pm

Hi again

Thank you Seagul for a prompt response.

Online Bank Statements doesn't pacifically say online. It has Bank logo, period, Joint names and details of account. As I mentioned earlier that paper copy which we received by post got a different format. Is that ok to use online PDF Statement?

I also read on the forum that we have take original to the appointment centre but the issue is that if I print them they will be in black & white format not coloured one. Are they acceptable? Or I have get them print in Colour format?

I tried my best to gather sole name documents for same months for us both but failed. So documents listed above are the nearest with each other. Is this going to be an issue? I am panicking now because I don't know how to get/ sort them for same months. Please help.

Awaiting for your kind response Seagul & others.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:46 pm

TJUK wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:09 pm
Hi again

Thank you Seagul for a prompt response.

Online Bank Statements doesn't pacifically say online. It has Bank logo, period, Joint names and details of account.
Yes use it
TJUK wrote:
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I also read on the forum that we have take original to the appointment centre but the issue is that if I print them they will be in black & white format not coloured one. Are they acceptable? Or I have get them print in Colour format?
Shouldn't be an issue because of most likely won't be asked/seen by the vfs centre staff.
TJUK wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:09 pm
I tried my best to gather sole name documents for same months for us both but failed. So documents listed above are the nearest with each other. Is this going to be an issue? I am panicking now because I don't know how to get/ sort them for same months. Please help.

Awaiting for your kind response Seagul & others.

Many Thanks
If you couldn't do so as suggested earlier than just attach whatever you have. As said earlier that you seems to have sufficient amount of evidences.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:10 pm

Hi again.

Thank you so much for clarifying.

I have some more questions if you can help.

Child benefit
I am British claiming child benefit for my British born son. Child benefit is on my name because my wife is no recourse to public fund. I read guidance and appears that if I am claiming this it won't affect my wife Visa extension application. Is that correct?

Council Accommodation

In addition to that I have applied for a council house and on a waiting list. At the time of application the Council staff advised me that I can only apply as single person because my wife cannot claim benefit due to non recourse to public fund but once a sole Tenancy is signed my wife can live with me along my son. Is that correct?

I read benefit guidance that states British people can claim benefit for their own rights and if person live in a council provided house along with partner who is entitled then it doesn't consider as breach of non recourse to public fund immigration rule. Please provide clarification.

Seagul I would appreciate if you could provide clarification on this matter. I just wanted to make sure that I have interpreted it correctly.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

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TJUK wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:10 pm
Hi again.

Thank you so much for clarifying.

I have some more questions if you can help.

Child benefit
I am British claiming child benefit for my British born son. Child benefit is on my name because my wife is no recourse to public fund. I read guidance and appears that if I am claiming this it won't affect my wife Visa extension application. Is that correct?

Council Accommodation

In addition to that I have applied for a council house and on a waiting list. At the time of application the Council staff advised me that I can only apply as single person because my wife cannot claim benefit due to non recourse to public fund but once a sole Tenancy is signed my wife can live with me along my son. Is that correct?

I read benefit guidance that states British people can claim benefit for their own rights and if person live in a council provided house along with partner who is entitled then it doesn't consider as breach of non recourse to public fund immigration rule. Please provide clarification.

Seagul I would appreciate if you could provide clarification on this matter. I just wanted to make sure that I have interpreted it correctly.
No issue and your understanding is correct for all above.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:58 pm

Hi again

Thank you very much for your response.

Apologies for asking so many questions.

Other documents section

Can you please advise me for the point below.

What documents should I submit in relation to in receipt of Child Benefit?

Child benefit award letter plus bank statements where I received payments OR child benefit letter is sufficient?

Do I have to submit some NHS letters for my child?

I have received a GP letter dated 11/11/2020 confirming that me & my wife are residing at our current address since November 2018 and our cold since September 2019. Should I include this letter? Letter has been signed and stamped.

Seagul your kind response would be appreciated.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

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TJUK wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:58 pm
Hi again

Thank you very much for your response.

Apologies for asking so many questions.

Other documents section

Can you please advise me for the point below.

What documents should I submit in relation to in receipt of Child Benefit?

Child benefit award letter plus bank statements where I received payments OR child benefit letter is sufficient?

Do I have to submit some NHS letters for my child?

I have received a GP letter dated 11/11/2020 confirming that me & my wife are residing at our current address since November 2018 and our cold since September 2019. Should I include this letter? Letter has been signed and stamped.

Seagul your kind response would be appreciated.

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Above mentioned letters aren't needed but can be utilized as a cohabitation evidence if addressed in your names.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:56 pm

Hi again.

Thank you for prompt and kind response.

I would be thankful if you provide answers to the questions outlined below please.

IDV app

I read that application should be submitted via IDV app. Is that correct?

If that's is mandatory we will have some issues here because I saved all scanned documents to my PC and It will be difficult to transfer them on the phone.

Secondly my wife will not be completely competent to use this app. Is there any other alternative?

Today I went to my bank to request a copy for Bank Statement for the period 19 July 2019 to 18 August 2019 and requested them if they can issue paper copy having similar format that we receive via post. They advised me it cannot be possible. They can order a transaction history for that period which should be acceptable by HO as per their system.

My questions is that if I submit this transaction history which has Bank logo and my monthly statements in a different format would it be an issue?

I also noticed that NatWest Bank Statements do not have an issue date. Their statements only states period such as July - September. Is this going to be an issue?

I don't get a full month Statement such as July. The period falls between 2 months such as 19 July - 18 August. Do I have submit all statements to cover full months or above period Statement is sufficient?

For Sponsor 6 months statements, do I to cover full months or above pattern is acceptable?

Apologies I am trying to get experts advice for all possible avenues.

Seagul awaiting for your kind response.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

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TJUK wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:56 pm
Hi again.

Thank you for prompt and kind response.

I would be thankful if you provide answers to the questions outlined below please.

IDV app

I read that application should be submitted via IDV app. Is that correct?

If that's is mandatory we will have some issues here because I saved all scanned documents to my PC and It will be difficult to transfer them on the phone.
Secondly my wife will not be completely competent to use this app. Is there any other alternative?
IDV app used to be an amenity during the first lockdown but now UKVCAS is normally operating. See how to book appointment:
https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/help-support/o ... ppointment
TJUK wrote:
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Hi again.
Today I went to my bank to request a copy for Bank Statement for the period 19 July 2019 to 18 August 2019 and requested them if they can issue paper copy having similar format that we receive via post. They advised me it cannot be possible. They can order a transaction history for that period which should be acceptable by HO as per their system.

My questions is that if I submit this transaction history which has Bank logo and my monthly statements in a different format would it be an issue?
Yes a transaction history on bank stationary is same like a bank statement
TJUK wrote:
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Hi again.
I also noticed that NatWest Bank Statements do not have an issue date. Their statements only states period such as July - September. Is this going to be an issue?
Well I personally never seen a statement without bearing any date of issuance/printing/downloading which if not be visibly viewable then might be embossed on somewhere on the page or printed on the covering letter sometimes arrive along with statements in same envelope.
TJUK wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:56 pm
I don't get a full month Statement such as July. The period falls between 2 months such as 19 July - 18 August. Do I have submit all statements to cover full months or above period Statement is sufficient?

For Sponsor 6 months statements, do I to cover full months or above pattern is acceptable?

Apologies I am trying to get experts advice for all possible avenues.

Seagul awaiting for your kind response.

Many Thanks
Above pattern is pretty normal and bank statements must be attached in full covering at least the required period and if in doing so it goes slightly above then it wont cause any harm.
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:49 am

You should refer to page 32 of following guidance to know as what specified evidences are needed:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... a8VCfDfJBU
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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by TJUK » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:30 am

Hi again.

Thank you so much for detailed kind response and links provided.

I have checked paper statements, transactions history and online statements, all these doesn't have an issuance/printing or any dates.

What should I do here?

I believe NatWest Bank do not issue statements with an issuing date.

Do I have to explain it in covering letter?

Seagul awaiting for your kind response.

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Re: Accommodation & Tenancy issue

Post by seagul » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:13 pm

TJUK wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:30 am
Hi again.

Thank you so much for detailed kind response and links provided.

I have checked paper statements, transactions history and online statements, all these doesn't have an issuance/printing or any dates.

What should I do here?

I believe NatWest Bank do not issue statements with an issuing date.

Do I have to explain it in covering letter?

Seagul awaiting for your kind response.

Many Thanks
yes in that case the only way will be the covering letter to address this issue.
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