Tier 1 COVID19 jobs concession update.

[Anontier25]

That's one way to look at it, but the funds essentially came from the government, so for the businesses that are struggling in light of the lack of revenue, and are struggling to pay the salaires, are indirectly taking the money from the government to pay the staff, that would have otherwise been considered not possible as that's public funding. Just playing devil's advocate in the way the UKVI have a habit of reviewing information.

[marcnath]

That's one way to look at it, but the funds essentially came from the government, so for the businesses that are struggling in light of the lack of revenue, and are struggling to pay the salaires, are indirectly taking the money from the government to pay the staff, that would have otherwise been considered not possible as that's public funding. Just playing devil's advocate in the way the UKVI have a habit of reviewing information.

If you are worried and want to be a 100% sure, then just don't use those funds. It is a support from the government, not a mandatory requirement that you use it.

[CULLINAN]

Recent case where user relied on employees’s furlough payslips and was successful for ILR in 1-2 weeks! Same principle applies to extension also.
indefinite-leave-to-remain/ilr-applicat ... 08343.html

Note: Always mention the guidance in the cover letter for reference if you rely on furlough payslips.

[Anontier25]

Hello,

I noticed today the 5th Nov document has now been updated and alot of the information has been removed in the 2/12/20 version 26. The wording is better in my opinion but still makes me doubt/ worry if I do put staff on furlough using government funds.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 6.0ext.pdf pg 89.

Also after 18 months they have updated the policy guidance- https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -_v.25.pdf

This page still hasn't been updated which doesn't make sense to me, https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus ... ts#history

@Cullinan that's interesting that the applicant was successful. It's good to hear.

[CULLINAN]

I think it is pretty clear:

Time when their employees were furloughed under the UK Government scheme will count towards the 12 month period if they have been paid at least 80% of their normal salary.

[Anontier25]

Hi Cullinan,

It’s amazing how quickly this lady’s case was approved in light of the fact that she was refused her extension and used furlough. Which is amazing! Ah stressful as I often find it’s luck of the draw with the CW on the day the application goes in. Really lucky for her and I hope my application goes ahead this smoothly.
However, I must admit i am a bit confused by her furlough comments which I have copied for you here. She states she had staff on furlough from March to Aug which is 6 months, so it’s quite a lengthy period, which is good to know, but what’s confusing me is that if this amendment on 5th Nov hadn’t been made, was she going to extend her visa as she had accessed furlough?

Further her comments below, in one she says
“I am not rely on furlough wages, yes i have paid furlough wages to my emplyees”

and then says “I have paid 100% wages during furloughed 80% from gov and 20% from employer , so i can claim furloughed period in”

Does she mean they weren’t on furlough on the payslips but in essence was getting the 80% from the govt and then just topping it up 20%?
So was she reliant or furlough or not?

Thanks!



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 by Maria hassan » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:33 pm
Hi, thank you for reply, yes I have attached my recent tax returns as self employed which is mentioned details my income and tax code etc,
I am not rely on furlough wages, yes i have paid furlough wages to my emplyees,
My claim employment starts from May 2019 to February 10 months, then starts furlough because from 23 March lockdown announced do account adviced by law you must register furlough so i did, Furloughed March to august.
September and October I didn’t file furlough so 2 months and 10 months previously total 12 months i will claim.

Ok I ll make chart for jobs after extension period.

Is that fine? Do i need anything els to be add into my application? Thx

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 by Maria hassan » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:34 pm
Yes my both jobs are 30 hours per week and 130 hours per month,
I have paid 100% wages during furloughed 80% from gov and 20% from employer , so i can claim furloughed period in that case do i need to bank statements since furloughed starts or dnt need bank statement. If they will ask about bank statements then i ll send,
What you suggest?

[CULLINAN]

Please keep your future questions in this thread rather tagging other user’s thread:

The 5th Nov update just came at the right time that went in her favour. She was initially relying on her period of claim even before extension in misconception. However, she was saved by the furlough update. Otherwise, she would not have met the requirements (if furlough was not allowed in 5th Nov update) until she waited few more months.

She means she paid employees 100% wage, 80% was furlough and 20% was top up from her side and she was claiming 80% back from government.

[Anontier25]

Ok, sure. Any thoughts on my questions though as you had conversed with her extensively, and I am not sure if she will reply?

[CULLINAN]

Ok, sure. Any thoughts on my questions though as you had conversed with her extensively, and I am not sure if she will reply?

I have already answered I suppose?

[Anontier25]

Truthfully, not explicitly.

Did she take the furlough money from HMRC, or did she simply just pay her staff 80%?

[CULLINAN]

Truthfully, not explicitly.

Did she take the furlough money from HMRC, or did she simply just pay her staff 80%?

She means she paid employees 100% wage, 80% was furlough and 20% was top up from her side and she was claiming 80% back from HMRC.

[Anontier25]

Thanks.

[Anontier25]

So they finally updated the Coronavirus page! So now all 3 documents state the same. I'm glad I kept emailing them about this, finally consistency.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus ... ts#history

[Anontier25]

@ Culinan can I ask Maria a question on her thread or I'm not allowed to? I wondered if she'd be ok to share what her cover letter said with regards to the furlough and how she explained that to the HO in her application?

[CULLINAN]

@ Culinan can I ask Maria a question on her thread or I'm not allowed to? I wondered if she'd be ok to share what her cover letter said with regards to the furlough and how she explained that to the HO in her application?

Sure you can direct any message to her. Anyone can do that. It is only asked not to tag your own questions in someone else’s thread as its unfair to OP. But you can always ask any clarification’s directed at the OP.

[umer.shahzad1]

i really still didnt get it

if you furlough your employee you cannot claim the job creation points ?

even if we are getting paid 80 percent money from HMRC ?

[Anontier25]

@maria would it be possible to share your cover letter please as I am a little confused, because from my understanding of the furlough rules, the payslip has to show the 80% as the RTI information to HMRC shows that, so did your payslips show 100% of the salary but you claimed 80% from HMRC and topped it up with the 20% from your own business and none of your staff worked for the past 6 months then?
Thanks for the clarification.

[CULLINAN]

@maria would it be possible to share your cover letter please as I am a little confused, because from my understanding of the furlough rules, the payslip has to show the 80% as the RTI information to HMRC shows that, so did your payslips show 100% of the salary but you claimed 80% from HMRC and topped it up with the 20% from your own business and none of your staff worked for the past 6 months then?
Thanks for the clarification.

She might not be following this thread.

[Anontier25]

Happy New Year!

Ok, thanks for that, so how can I reach out to her as per the rules we aren't allowed to write on their OP?

[CULLINAN]

Happy New Year!

Ok, thanks for that, so how can I reach out to her as per the rules we aren't allowed to write on their OP?

You can always address your question to the OP for further clarification. It is up to her if she responds or not.

[Ali313]

Happy New Year!

Ok, thanks for that, so how can I reach out to her as per the rules we aren't allowed to write on their OP?

You can always address your question to the OP for further clarification. It is up to her if she responds or not.

Hi Cullinan,
Could you pls simplify it for me if I can use the the following for job creation in current Covid concessions...
I have 3 part timers for last 3 months, 2 are getting around £500 one 3rd part timer is paid £700 p/m.
I planing to promote one part timer to full time.
So he can further work for next 12 months which can be counted one full time job!
I have a question, the 3rd part timer who have worked 3 months previously as part time, can I also combine his job with other part timers for the previous 3 months to make it count full time? Or if he works now full time only his full time can be counted for job creation not his previous part time work ? Please need your assistance... as the problem I’m facing the first 2 part timers worked but I add their salaries fir 2 it sums £1000. Which won’t be counted as full time. Thanks

[marcnath]

Happy New Year!

Ok, thanks for that, so how can I reach out to her as per the rules we aren't allowed to write on their OP?

You can always address your question to the OP for further clarification. It is up to her if she responds or not.

Hi Cullinan,
Could you pls simplify it for me if I can use the the following for job creation in current Covid concessions...
I have 3 part timers for last 3 months, 2 are getting around £500 one 3rd part timer is paid £700 p/m.
I planing to promote one part timer to full time.
So he can further work for next 12 months which can be counted one full time job!
I have a question, the 3rd part timer who have worked 3 months previously as part time, can I also combine his job with other part timers for the previous 3 months to make it count full time? Or if he works now full time only his full time can be counted for job creation not his previous part time work ? Please need your assistance... as the problem I’m facing the first 2 part timers worked but I add their salaries fir 2 it sums £1000. Which won’t be counted as full time. Thanks

Not sure what the relevance of the amount above is.
You need to still 104 weeks of employment of 30 hrs each.
The corona virus restriction only means that you can pretty much use any combination of employees to make up the 30 hrs in each week.

[AHMEDKHILED]

Hi Everyone ,

I grant my tier 1 entrepreneur visa January 2020 , I am confused should I hire 2 full time employee to comply with extension requirement or not ?


Many thanks

[Loslon]

Hi everyone,
I just went through a successful ILR application (self prepared)(3 dependents) , and the rule applied 'furlough of 80% from government and 20% from employer' for all the months was acceptable. The only document I was asked to produce was HMRC Starter checklist for PAYE for all the employees. In 3 working days 08-01-2021 after submitting the requested document received an email 13-01-2021 of successful (granted).

[Loslon]

Happy New Year!

Ok, thanks for that, so how can I reach out to her as per the rules we aren't allowed to write on their OP?

You can always address your question to the OP for further clarification. It is up to her if she responds or not.

Hi Cullinan,

Can we speak that is ok with you? Email address removed by moderator

This is regarding my mother, who is on Visit visa from USA (Green Card). I was granted my ILR Tier 1 Entrepreneur.