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[Aliman1333]

Hi im currently in a salary of 17994 permanent. My second job is at a takeaway which is owned by my brother in law as a ltd company paying VAT. I earn there 2000 a year as part time salary. I have been in both jobs 1 year. Would it go against me that im working for my brother in laws business? And can they find out.

[TODMATT]

Hi im currently in a salary of 17994 permanent. My second job is at a takeaway which is owned by my brother in law as a ltd company paying VAT. I earn there 2000 a year as part time salary. I have been in both jobs 1 year. Would it go against me that im working for my brother in laws business? And can they find out.

If you are working for a LTD company owned by your brother, you will need to check whether you fall under paragraph 9A of Appendix FM-SE

"9. In respect of income from employment and/or shares in a limited company based in the UK of a type specified in paragraph 9(a), the requirements of paragraph 9(b)-(e) shall apply in place of the requirements of paragraphs 2 and 10(b).
(a) The specified type of limited company is one in which:
(i) the person is either a director or employee of the company, or both, or of another company within the same group; and
(ii) shares are held (directly or indirectly) by the person, their partner or the following family members of the person or their partner: parent, grandparent, child, stepchild, grandchild, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, nephew, niece or first cousin; and
(iii) any remaining shares are held (directly or indirectly) by fewer than five other persons."

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... d-evidence

[Aliman1333]

He owns it fully as director. And leasehold all by himself. I have no financial interest. I just work their as a worker. So in that sense i am okay?

[TODMATT]

He owns it fully as director. And leasehold all by himself. I have no financial interest. I just work their as a worker. So in that sense i am okay?

No you are not!! You are an employee in the company which is owned by your brother and shares are held by him alone so therefore you can't count your income under CAT A except CAT F see the guidance page 55 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... t-v5.0.pdf

[Aliman1333]

Oh thank you. I understand now. So i will have to use cat f full financial year. And combine it with salary. I will look into this. Thank you

[TODMATT]

Oh thank you. I understand now. So i will have to use cat f full financial year. And combine it with salary. I will look into this. Thank you

In order to combine income from a ltd company with a employment, it must be within the same financial year.

[Aliman1333]

Yes it is the same financial year. I would need to provide 12 months payslips? And reference from that employer. Or is it more ?

[TODMATT]

Yes it is the same financial year. I would need to provide 12 months payslips? And reference from that employer. Or is it more ?

Payslips covering the financial year as the CT600 which is going to be provided by your brother in supports of your application.

[Aliman1333]

Its not my brothers company. But my sisters husband. Ct600 i can get thanks for the help ^^

[Aliman1333]

Hi as an employee of my sisters husband takeaway. I got 12 months payslip. P60. Employment reference that i am an employee and start date stating permanent.

Ct600
Financial year
Companies register

Anything missing??

[TODMATT]

If Para 9A applies then all of the following must be provided in support of the application.

"(b) All of the following must be provided:
(i) Company Tax Return CT600 (a copy or print-out) for the last full financial year and evidence this has been filed with HMRC, such as electronic or written acknowledgment from HMRC.
(ii) Evidence of registration with the Registrar of Companies at Companies House.
(iii) If the company is required to produce annual audited accounts, such accounts for the last full financial year.
(iv) If the company is not required to produce annual audited accounts, unaudited accounts for the last full financial year and an accountant’s certificate of confirmation, from an accountant who is a member of a UK Recognized Supervisory Body (as defined in the Companies Act 2006) or who is a member of the Institute of Financial Accountants, The Association of Authorised Public Accountants, The Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy, The Chartered Institute of Management Accountants, the Association of International Accountants and The Association of Accounting Technicians.
(v) Corporate/business bank statements covering the same 12-month period as the Company Tax Return CT600.
(vi) A current Appointment Report from Companies House.
(vii) One of the following documents must also be provided:
(1) A certificate of VAT registration and the VAT return for the last full financial year (a copy or print-out) confirming the VAT registration number, if turnover is in excess of £79,000 or was in excess of the threshold which applied during the last full financial year.
(2) Proof of ownership or lease of business premises.
(3) Proof of registration with HMRC as an employer for the purposes of PAYE and National Insurance, proof of PAYE reference number and Accounts Office reference number. This evidence may be in the form of a certified copy of the documentation issued by HMRC.
(c) Where the person is either listed as a director of the company, or is an employee of the company, or both, and receives a salary from the company, all of the following documents must also be provided:
(i) Payslips and P60 (if issued) covering the same period as the Company Tax Return CT600.
(ii) Personal bank statements covering the same 12-month period as the Company Tax Return CT600 showing that the salary as a director or employee of the company (or both) was paid into an account in the name of the person or in the name of the person and their partner jointly.
(d) Where the person receives dividends from the company, all of the following documents must also be provided:
(i) Dividend vouchers for all dividends declared in favour of the person during or in respect of the period covered by the Company Tax Return CT600 showing the company’s and the person’s details with the person’s net dividend amount.
(ii) Personal bank statement(s) showing that those dividends were paid into an account in the name of the person or in the name of the person and their partner jointly.
(e) For the purposes of paragraph 19(a), evidence of ongoing employment as a director or other employee of the company or of ongoing receipt of dividend income from the company must be provided. This evidence may include payslips (or dividend vouchers) and personal bank statements showing that, in the period since the latest 12-month period covered by the Company Tax Return CT600, the person’s salary as a director or employee of the company (or both) (or dividend income from the company) was paid into an account in the name of the person or in the name of the person and their partner jointly. Alternative evidence may include evidence of ongoing payment of business rates, business-related insurance premiums or employer National Insurance contributions in relation to the company.

[CR001]

Topics merged!!

[Aliman1333]

From the following
(vii) One of the following documents must also be provided:
(1) A certificate of VAT registration and the VAT return for the last full financial year (a copy or print-out) confirming the VAT registration number, if turnover is in excess of £79,000 or was in excess of the threshold which applied during the last full financial year.
(2) Proof of ownership or lease of business premises.
(3) Proof of registration with HMRC as an employer for the purposes of PAYE and National Insurance, proof of PAYE reference number and Accounts Office reference number. This evidence may be in the form of a certified copy of the documentation issued by HMRC.


If i get just one of the documents such as proof of lease. is that enough? and i wont need the other 2 documents.

and this one
Evidence of registration with the Registrar of Companies at Companies House.

Where would i get this. It should be on companies house?

Many thanks for this

[TODMATT]

From the following
(vii) One of the following documents must also be provided:
(1) A certificate of VAT registration and the VAT return for the last full financial year (a copy or print-out) confirming the VAT registration number, if turnover is in excess of £79,000 or was in excess of the threshold which applied during the last full financial year.
(2) Proof of ownership or lease of business premises.
(3) Proof of registration with HMRC as an employer for the purposes of PAYE and National Insurance, proof of PAYE reference number and Accounts Office reference number. This evidence may be in the form of a certified copy of the documentation issued by HMRC.


If i get just one of the documents such as proof of lease. is that enough? and i wont need the other 2 documents.

and this one
Evidence of registration with the Registrar of Companies at Companies House.

Where would i get this. It should be on companies house?

Many thanks for this

The emphasis is on ONE of the following so you can choose from the one of the three documents listed.

call HMRC for that.

[Aliman1333]

I have a question for a fiance visa application.
Lets say my annual salary is 18000. But if i did 2 months where i earned 1800 and the rest 1500.
This is salaried employment in government. The 2 months were overtime. Can i apply on cat B as this avergae would be 18.6k over last 12 months.

[Aliman1333]

Im trying to avoid cat f as second income. If i can do that i will just do overtime. Its easier.