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Regarding British Citizenship

Post by Globe Trotter » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:23 pm

Hello everybody,

If my Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) BRP card has an issue date of 05-12-2019, when can I apply for British citizenship?

Thanks.

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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by secret.simon » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:26 pm

If you are not married to a British citizen, the earliest you can apply is one year after the date of grant of ILR, provided you were physically present in the UK five years before the date of application for naturalisation.
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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by Globe Trotter » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:36 pm

Many thanks Secret.Simon.

Does it mean that I can apply on the 6th of this month?

And what process is this ‘naturalisation’? Can I not just directly apply for the British passport?

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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by secret.simon » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:43 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:36 pm
Does it mean that I can apply on the 6th of this month?
You can, provided you were physically present in the UK on 7th December 2015.
Globe Trotter wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:36 pm
And what process is this ‘naturalisation’?
Naturalisation is the process by which a non-British adult generally acquires British citizenship. Once you have been naturalised (your application has been approved AND you have attended a citizenship ceremony), you are issued with a citizenship certificate. You can then apply for a British passport with that certificate.
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Can I not just directly apply for the British passport?
No. Only British citizens are issued with British passports. If you are not a British citizen, you need to naturalise in order to become a British citizen and can then apply for a British passport.
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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by Globe Trotter » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:19 pm

Many thanks for your prompt response.

Can you please guide me for naturalisation.

Or any link that will take me through the whole process.

Regards.

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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by alterhase58 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:29 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:19 pm
Many thanks for your prompt response.

Can you please guide me for naturalisation.
Official Guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-guidance
Or any link that will take me through the whole process.
Online application: https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... 1606152979

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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by secret.simon » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:39 pm

Citizenship FAQs - Common Questions - Read before posting

Also see the Announcements section at the top of the British Citizenship forum.
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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by Globe Trotter » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:56 pm

Thanks a ton for all your help.

Please guide me if this is true:
On the Referees List of acceptable professional persons, I have read that I can get a 'director of a limited company' to provide reference for me (provided he has known me for 3 years).

Is it correct?

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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by CULLINAN » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:47 pm

Given company is VAT registered, the yes.
https://www.gov.im/media/624353/listofreferees.pdf
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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by Globe Trotter » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:32 pm

Many thanks Cullinan for your prompt response.

Should that director have been a director for the last 3 years or a recently made director of a VAT registered company will also suffice?

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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by CULLINAN » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:43 pm

Does not matter.
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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by Globe Trotter » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:21 pm

Many thanks Cullinan.

On a closer inspection of 'List of acceptable professional persons', I realised that there are 2 similar categories:

1- Director/Manager of a VAT registered Charity

2- Chairman/director of limited company

Does it mean that 'Director of limited company' that is not VAT registered can also be my referee?

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Re: Regarding British Citizenship

Post by CULLINAN » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:25 pm

Page 24

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 1.0EXT.pdf

Looks like it. As per above guidance, you can.
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Format for getting referee details

Post by Globe Trotter » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:33 pm

Hello,

Can anybody advise me how should I get the professional referee details?

Is there a form that needs to be filled or his details just has to be typed on a plain paper and his signature has to be taken on that paper.

Thanks and regards.

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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by CR001 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:36 pm

It's part of the online form. You fill in the details, at the end of the process you down load/print it, pasted your photos in and get each referee to sign the forms. Then upload with the other supporting documents.

Also, please keep ALL your question in ONE tbread. Topics merged!
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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by Globe Trotter » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:34 pm

Many thanks CR001.

Can I paste my photo on the form, scan it, and send it across to the referee?

The referee will then print that scanned copy and sign it.

He will then rescan the signed form having my photograph & his signature and email it back to me.

Is that acceptable?

Thanks.

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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by alterhase58 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:28 pm

That should be ok - I would also ask for the physical signed original to be returned to you for safe-keeping.
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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by Globe Trotter » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:29 pm

Many thanks alterhase58.

Can you please send me the link to fill and download the application form?

Regards.

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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by alterhase58 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:25 pm

CR001 already gave this advice:
CR001 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:36 pm
It's part of the online form. You fill in the details, at the end of the process you down load/print it, pasted your photos in and get each referee to sign the forms. Then upload with the other supporting documents.
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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by Globe Trotter » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:12 pm

Hello,

I managed to get two references – Professional and Personal both.

The Professional reference is fine. My accountant who knows me for 5 years has given this reference.

But in the Personal reference I am doubtful about 2 things:
1- The second referee in his profession has mentioned himself as a ‘Director’. (Is this okay as this is meant to be a personal reference?)
2- Also the company that he has mentioned himself to be a director shows the status as ‘Dissolved’ on Companies House. That means currently he is the director of a ‘dissolved’ company.

Please advise as I do not want to take a risk and jeopardise my application.

Thanks.

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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:42 pm

For an adult application, one referee should be a person of any nationality who has professional standing, eg minister of religion, civil servant, or a member of a professional body e.g. accountant or solicitor (who is not representing you with this application).
For all applications, the second referee must normally be the holder of a British citizen passport and either a professional person or over the age of 25.
He must be a British Citizen and over 25 in the case you mentioned. His profession does not matter then. The form asks how the referee knows the applicant. He can mention “friend” or whatever your relationship is.
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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by Globe Trotter » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:45 am

Hello,

Many thanks for the quick response.

For my application I will be sending the following documents.

Is it okay or do I have to Add or Remove any documents (I do not want to send any additional documents that are not required)?

1. Latest bank statement for address proof.

2. Latest payslip.

3. All of my passports since my arrival to UK.

4. Passport of my Spouse.

5. Two passport size photographs.

6. Pass notification letter for 'Life in the UK' test.

7. English test certificate at B1 Level (or a degree certificate that is recognised by the Home Office for this purpose).

8. Marriage certificate.

9. Details of referees.

10. Referee's declaration document signed by each referee. (Professional and Personal both).

11. My Parents details (Name, date of birth and nationality).

12. My last 10 years employment history (Start date and end date, employer name, position
held).

14. My last 5 years address history (address, when did I start and when did I leave).

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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 am

Good morning,

Can I have some advice for my query. Any small guidance shall be highly appreciated.

Thanks and regards.
Globe Trotter wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:45 am
Hello,

Many thanks for the quick response.

For my application I will be sending the following documents.

Is it okay or do I have to Add or Remove any documents (I do not want to send any additional documents that are not required)?

1. Latest bank statement for address proof.

2. Latest payslip.

3. All of my passports since my arrival to UK.

4. Passport of my Spouse.

5. Two passport size photographs.

6. Pass notification letter for 'Life in the UK' test.

7. English test certificate at B1 Level (or a degree certificate that is recognised by the Home Office for this purpose).

8. Marriage certificate.

9. Details of referees.

10. Referee's declaration document signed by each referee. (Professional and Personal both).

11. My Parents details (Name, date of birth and nationality).

12. My last 10 years employment history (Start date and end date, employer name, position
held).

14. My last 5 years address history (address, when did I start and when did I leave).

Kindest regards,
Globe Trotter

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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:15 pm

Hope this helps.
Globe Trotter wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 am
Good morning,

Can I have some advice for my query. Any small guidance shall be highly appreciated.

Thanks and regards.
Globe Trotter wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:45 am
Hello,

Many thanks for the quick response.

For my application I will be sending the following documents.

Is it okay or do I have to Add or Remove any documents (I do not want to send any additional documents that are not required)?

1. Latest bank statement for address proof. Not required.

2. Latest payslip. Not required.

3. All of my passports since my arrival to UK. Only passport(s) required covering the residency period - 3 years in your case, as spouse of BC.

4. Passport of my Spouse. Yes

5. Two passport size photographs. Yes for referee declarations.

6. Pass notification letter for 'Life in the UK' test. Yes

7. English test certificate at B1 Level (or a degree certificate that is recognised by the Home Office for this purpose). Yes -
or degree from a recognised UK institution


8. Marriage certificate. Yes

9. Details of referees. Yes

10. Referee's declaration document signed by each referee. (Professional and Personal both). Yes

11. My Parents details (Name, date of birth and nationality). Yes

12. My last 10 years employment history (Start date and end date, employer name, position
held). Yes

14. My last 5 years address history (address, when did I start and when did I leave). Yes

Kindest regards,
Globe Trotter
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Re: Format for getting referee details

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:56 pm

Many thanks alterhase58 for your response.
It’s highly appreciated.

I am not applying for British citizenship on the basis of my spouse. I was on entrepreneur visa and have got my ILR on that basis. It is one year since I got my ILR.
In this scenario will your answers still be the same.

Thanks and regards.

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