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Wrong document in previous application

Post by gasor » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:22 am

Dear all,

I have a question related to visa application. If there was deception used by an applicant in leave to enter application 1 year ago, how will it affect their in-country application for switching to a different category? If the deception was the use of 2 false documents but not required or very relevant to the application

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Re: Wrong document in previous application

Post by gasor » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:58 am

Forgot to mention that the applicant is not mentally sound and these 2 documents were submitted by agent without their knowledge. Only very little information in the documents is incorrect. So it's not confirmed if it would be seen as deception. Is it better to provide a cover letter with their next application mentioning this?

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Re: Wrong document in previous application

Post by Ticktack » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:55 am

gasor wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:58 am
Forgot to mention that the applicant is not mentally sound and these 2 documents were submitted by agent without their knowledge. Only very little information in the documents is incorrect. So it's not confirmed if it would be seen as deception. Is it better to provide a cover letter with their next application mentioning this?
It's hard to give a good advice if one doesn't have any idea of what the documents is. The weight that would have been given to a false birth certificate isn't the same you'd give a bank statement.
You're not obliged to say what it is, just go with your gut feeling.
No sin in failing, you just have to try and try again!

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Re: Wrong document in previous application

Post by gasor » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:12 pm

Ticktack wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:55 am
It's hard to give a good advice if one doesn't have any idea of what the documents is. The weight that would have been given to a false birth certificate isn't the same you'd give a bank statement.
You're not obliged to say what it is, just go with your gut feeling.
The application was to study a master's course. The documents were for employment details which said the applicant worked for some years when they were actually sick and couldn't work. Details were not a requirement for the application. The agent advised and later submitted them without applicant's knowledge. The applicant was asked about them in interview and had to repeat the incorrect information. What's the best way out of this? The applicant is afraid that some people in their country who caused them physical harm several times, could report this.

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Re: Wrong document in previous application

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:12 am

gasor wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:12 pm
Ticktack wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:55 am
It's hard to give a good advice if one doesn't have any idea of what the documents is. The weight that would have been given to a false birth certificate isn't the same you'd give a bank statement.
You're not obliged to say what it is, just go with your gut feeling.
The application was to study a master's course. The documents were for employment details which said the applicant worked for some years when they were actually sick and couldn't work. Details were not a requirement for the application. The agent advised and later submitted them without applicant's knowledge. The applicant was asked about them in interview and had to repeat the incorrect information. What's the best way out of this? The applicant is afraid that some people in their country who caused them physical harm several times, could report this.
As Ticktack opined, applicant should go with their gut feeling. No explanation holds water as went along with the deception during interview. And without the likelihood of "enemy" from home country reporting would probably not give it a second thought.

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Re: Wrong document in previous application

Post by gasor » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:35 am

AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:12 am
As Ticktack opined, applicant should go with their gut feeling. No explanation holds water as went along with the deception during interview. And without the likelihood of "enemy" from home country reporting would probably not give it a second thought.
The applicant has been willing to disclose it in their next application for some time and has even contacted a lawyer who advised that the result of this could go either way but more likely to be negative for them.

If they disclose it, can it result in them being convicted or a ban? Is there a safe time after which they can disclose it? Reporting by people from their country is not an immediate concern at the moment.

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Re: Wrong document in previous application

Post by Ticktack » Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:42 am

gasor wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:35 am
AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:12 am
As Ticktack opined, applicant should go with their gut feeling. No explanation holds water as went along with the deception during interview. And without the likelihood of "enemy" from home country reporting would probably not give it a second thought.
The applicant has been willing to disclose it in their next application for some time and has even contacted a lawyer who advised that the result of this could go either way but more likely to be negative for them.

If they disclose it, can it result in them being convicted or a ban? Is there a safe time after which they can disclose it? Reporting by people from their country is not an immediate concern at the moment.
So it was actually an interview, not a dropbox. The scary thing about the interviews is that, if caught in a big lie, the individual might have been banned from visiting the UK for 10years.
Using falsified documentations is a major offense (Ignorance is not an excuse). Unfortunately, the only way the person can find out is if they apply again.

If the ban was activated, they would be told in their rejection paper (folded nicely between the passport pages). Confession or not, what is done is done.
No sin in failing, you just have to try and try again!

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