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Hi, thanks for your response. I did send the email to the courts with the relevant information, I don’t remember copying Home Office into that email though. That’s probably because I wasn’t sure what I was doing. Thank you for your suggestion on the grounds for the skeleton argument. However I have checked the board and can’t see a recent drafted copy I could use to include my grounds. Also, On an earlier page you stated not to copy and paste the skeleton argument. I don’t know how to draft a skeleton argument let alone pinpoint my grounds legally and professionally. I was looking for a drafted copy of an already published skeleton argument here, obviously redacting information that doesn’t suit my case and including my argument as I see fit to my case. I don’t know how to do this, Is there an updated skeleton argument relevant to the Zambrano case which is similar to that of snooky’s previous skeleton argument I could use now. I have checked the board but I haven’t seen one. I’m not sure if I missed it. If I have, Can someone pinpoint what page number on the board I can find this please. As I suffer with anxiety and ocd. I have now lost the ability to remain focus after that email yesterday & I’m dreading the worst. I can indeed email the courts and asked for a 2 weeks extension to provide the information. I just want to make sure I can provide the information when the time comes. They are asking for a skeleton argument, Am I right in thinking they are just looking for me to explain what grounds and why I believe the decision to reject my application was wrong? Is there anyway I can word this to make it seem like I know what I’m saying to a judge? I know I am going over and over again but honestly this how my mind thinks and I’m just trying to make it make sense when I physically type it. What I’m asking is , Is there anywhere on the forum that I can use a current up to date drafted copy of a skeleton argument Making sure I include information that’s relevant to me and my case and the current law. I know no one is allowed to give legal advice. I’m just looking for information that may be of use. If there isn’t a current drafted copy of such argument. Is it possible if someone , anyone could help me which such argument? meaning how do I put into context, short simple professional which makes sense. I don’t want the judge to read my skeleton argument and go, We’ll she’s obviously mentally derail & needs section and just says no. I’m not sure if I’m making any sense, I hope I am. I would really appreciate any information from anyone. Thanksmarcidevpal wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:32 amHello Wishfulgirl,
Have you sent the email to the Court and copied in the Home Office with your email address, home address, phone number, etc? Also, you can email the court and ask them to ask the judge for a further two weeks as we are in the middle of the holidays. The judge may say yes. A copy of the structure for the skeleton argument is in an earlier post.
You have two strong statutory grounds to argue. You can stress yourself trying to create the perfect argument, or you can accept that the current environment means there is a strong chance you will lose at the First-tier Tribunal, Upper Tribunal, etc. and will need to appeal to a higher court, outside the jurisdiction of the UK.
It's just my opinion, but I think you should focus on creating a skeleton argument and witness statement that will help you with either the CJEU and/or the ECtHR. (That means the European Court of Justice and the European Court of Human Rights).
It is important to understand in a general sense, what you are arguing and why. Then, it becomes relatively straightforward to write the arguments. Here is my understanding of what you would say, based on what you explained:
Ground 1 - The decision is in breach of your rights under the Withdrawal Agreement
You were given leave under the EU rules as the family member of an EEA national. I believe those rights continue even if your sponsor dies, but I could be wrong. You could argue that you completed five years under the EU rules and should have been given permanent residence before the 31st December 2020. Under the Withdrawal Agreement, the UK has a responsibility to help people qualify. I would just make the argument that I qualify under the Withdrawal Agreement as the family member of an EEA national, and/or also as a Zambrano carer who should have been eligible for permanent residence before 31st Dec 2020 and let the Home Office or the judge prove you are not.
Ground 2 - The decision is in breach of the Immigration Rules
I am not sure how you would argue this ground. It may not be worth it.
Ground 3 - The decision is in breach of your human rights (ECHR)
This third ground is not accepted by the First-tier Tribunal, but you should probably make it anyway. They may say you have to get the permission of the Home Office for the judge to consider your human rights. In my opinion, that is simply false. Human rights are universal and fundamental. The UK is a member of the Council of Europe. That means they agree to take into account ECtHR jurisprudence where relevant. The UK simply can not make legislation that prevents people from raising a human rights claim and from having it considered, in my opinion. If the UK judges refuse to consider your human rights, however, then you need to file a claim with the European Court and the judges will do a balancing test. You have been in the UK lawfully for over 10 years. You have a strong case for why you should be granted permanent residence. The UK is a contracting state to the United Nations and to the European Convention on the Protection of Human Rights. They say that after a certain amount of time, people should be granted permanent residence. It is good that you applied on paper, because you will have all of your documents to show to those courts. Based on my readings of the E.K. decision, and various decisions by the ECtHR, if you don't have a serious criminal record, I don't see how they will rule against you. The ECtHR does a balancing test. They balance society's needs for immigration control against your need for permanent residence. There is a case for criminals, people who entered illegally or overstayers to not be given residence, but even then only in certain circumstances. There has to be a legitimate aim for denying you residence.
The below is what I meant when I said I already created a template of a skeleton argument. I was referring to the structure only. Not the structure + the arguments.Wishfulgirl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:54 amHi, thanks for your response. I did send the email to the courts with the relevant information, I don’t remember copying Home Office into that email though. That’s probably because I wasn’t sure what I was doing. Thank you for your suggestion on the grounds for the skeleton argument. However I have checked the board and can’t see a recent drafted copy I could use to include my grounds. Also, On an earlier page you stated not to copy and paste the skeleton argument. I don’t know how to draft a skeleton argument let alone pinpoint my grounds legally and professionally. I was looking for a drafted copy of an already published skeleton argument here, obviously redacting information that doesn’t suit my case and including my argument as I see fit to my case. I don’t know how to do this, Is there an updated skeleton argument relevant to the Zambrano case which is similar to that of snooky’s previous skeleton argument I could use now. I have checked the board but I haven’t seen one. I’m not sure if I missed it. If I have, Can someone pinpoint what page number on the board I can find this please. As I suffer with anxiety and ocd. I have now lost the ability to remain focus after that email yesterday & I’m dreading the worst. I can indeed email the courts and asked for a 2 weeks extension to provide the information. I just want to make sure I can provide the information when the time comes. They are asking for a skeleton argument, Am I right in thinking they are just looking for me to explain what grounds and why I believe the decision to reject my application was wrong? Is there anyway I can word this to make it seem like I know what I’m saying to a judge? I know I am going over and over again but honestly this how my mind thinks and I’m just trying to make it make sense when I physically type it. What I’m asking is , Is there anywhere on the forum that I can use a current up to date drafted copy of a skeleton argument Making sure I include information that’s relevant to me and my case and the current law. I know no one is allowed to give legal advice. I’m just looking for information that may be of use. If there isn’t a current drafted copy of such argument. Is it possible if someone , anyone could help me which such argument? meaning how do I put into context, short simple professional which makes sense. I don’t want the judge to read my skeleton argument and go, We’ll she’s obviously mentally derail & needs section and just says no. I’m not sure if I’m making any sense, I hope I am. I would really appreciate any information from anyone. Thanks
marcidevpal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:28 pmIN THE FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IMMIGRATION & ASYLUM CHAMBER)
BETWEEN:EA/XXXXX/202X
JANE DOEAppellant
and
THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE HOME DEPARTMENTRespondent
--------------------------------------------------------------APPELLANT’S SKELETON ARGUMENT “ASA”--------------------------------------------------------------This skeleton argument relates to the appellant’s appeal against the respondent’s refusal of an application under the European Union Settlement Scheme (Appendix EU) dated DD MM YYYY.
In this ASA, references will be made to “RL” which is the refusal letter, “WS” are the appellant’s witness statements, “AB” is the appellant’s bundle, and the “RB” refers to the respondent’s bundle.
[A] CASE SUMMARY
[] RESPONDENT'S CASE
[C] ISSUES TO BE DETERMINED
[D] LEGAL FRAMEWORK
[E] SUBMISSIONS
ESSENTIAL READING
The court is invited to allow the appeal.
DD MONTH 202X
If you did not send your documents to the Home Office then you are in non-compliance. Either party must serve the other party, or the case could be dismissed. The best thing to do is, when you send your documents to the Court by email, copy in the Home Office. That way the Court can see that you served the other side in a timely manner.
Thank for this information. It now makes sense why I was sent the email of non compliance yesterday. This would be because home office didn’t received my bundle. Thank goodness, now I can at least worry a little less knowing this information.marcidevpal wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:39 pmIf you did not send your documents to the Home Office then you are in non-compliance. Either party must serve the other party, or the case could be dismissed. The best thing to do is, when you send your documents to the Court by email, copy in the Home Office. That way the Court can see that you served the other side in a timely manner.
Regarding non-compliance, I am just assuming it is because you did not send your bundle to the Home Office. You may want to read the letter again to make sure it isn't for something else. It sounds like they are not happy that you did not send your bundle to the Home Office, but it is a relatively common mistake by litigants in person.
ARTICLE 9 Definitions1. The provisions of this Agreement and the provisions of Union law made applicable by this Agreement shall produce in respect of and in the United Kingdom the same legal effects as those which they produce within the Union and its Member States.
Accordingly, legal or natural persons shall in particular be able to rely directly on the provisions contained or referred to in this Agreement which meet the conditions for direct effect under Union law.
2. The United Kingdom shall ensure compliance with paragraph 1, including as regards the required powers of its judicial and administrative authorities to disapply inconsistent or incompatible domestic provisions, through domestic primary legislation
5. In the interpretation and application of this Agreement, the United Kingdom's judicial and administrative authorities shall have due regard to relevant case law of the Court of Justice of the European Union handed down after the end of the transition period.
ARTICLE 10 Personal scopea) "family members" means the following persons, irrespective of their nationality, who fall within the personal scope provided for in Article 10 of this Agreement:
(i) family members of Union citizens or family members of United Kingdom nationals as defined in point (2) of Article 2 of Directive 2004/38/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council1;
(ii) persons other than those defined in Article 3(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC whose presence is required by Union citizens or United Kingdom nationals in order not to deprive those Union citizens or United Kingdom nationals of a right of residence granted by this Part;
ARTICLE 11 Continuity of residence1. Without prejudice to Title III, this Part shall apply to the following persons:
(e) family members of the persons referred to in points (a) to (d), provided that they fulfil one of the following conditions:
(i) they resided in the host State in accordance with Union law before the end of the transition period and continue to reside there thereafter;
(f) family members who resided in the host State in accordance with Articles 12 and 13,
Article 16(2) and Articles 17 and 18 of Directive 2004/38/EC before the end of the transition period and continue to reside there thereafter.
2. Persons falling under points (a) and (b) of Article 3(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC whose residence was facilitated by the host State in accordance with its national legislation before the end of the transition period in accordance with Article 3(2) of that Directive shall retain their right of residence in the host State in accordance with this Part, provided that they continue to reside in the host State thereafter.
3. Paragraph 2 shall also apply to persons falling under points (a) and (b) of Article 3(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC who have applied for facilitation of entry and residence before the end of the transition period, and whose residence is being facilitated by the host State in accordance with its national legislation thereafter.
5. In the cases referred to in paragraphs 3 and 4, the host State shall undertake an extensive examination of the personal circumstances of the persons concerned and shall justify any denial of entry or residence to such persons.
ARTICLE 13 Residence rightsThe right of permanent residence acquired under Directive 2004/38/EC before the end of the transition period shall not be treated as lost through absence from the host State for a period specified in Article 15(3).
ARTICLE 15 Right of permanent residence3. Family members who are neither Union citizens nor United Kingdom nationals shall have the right to reside in the host State under Article 21 TFEU and as set out in Article 6(2), Article 7(2), Article 12(2) or (3), Article 13(2), Article 14, Article 16(2), Article 17(3) or (4) or Article 18 of Directive 2004/38/EC, subject to the limitations and conditions set out in those provisions.
4. The host State may not impose any limitations or conditions for obtaining, retaining or losing residence rights on the persons referred to in paragraphs 1, 2 and 3, other than those provided for in this Title. There shall be no discretion in applying the limitations and conditions provided for in this Title, other than in favour of the person concerned.
ARTICLE 17 Status and changes1. Union citizens and United Kingdom nationals, and their respective family members, who have resided legally in the host State in accordance with Union law for a continuous period of
5 years or for the period specified in Article 17 of Directive 2004/38/EC, shall have the right to reside permanently in the host State under the conditions set out in Articles 16, 17 and 18 of Directive 2004/38/EC. Periods of legal residence or work in accordance with Union law before and after the end of the transition period shall be included in the calculation of the qualifying period necessary for acquisition of the right of permanent residence.
3. Once acquired, the right of permanent residence shall be lost only through absence from the host State for a period exceeding 5 consecutive years.
ARTICLE 18 Issuance of residence documents1. The right of Union citizens and United Kingdom nationals, and their respective family members, to rely directly on this Part shall not be affected when they change status, for example between student, worker, self-employed person and economically inactive person. Persons who, at the end of the transition period, enjoy a right of residence in their capacity as family members of Union citizens or United Kingdom nationals, cannot become persons referred to in points (a) to (d) of Article 10(1).
ARTICLE 18 Issuance of residence documents1. The host State may require Union citizens or United Kingdom nationals, their respective family members and other persons, who reside in its territory in accordance with the conditions set out in this Title, to apply for a new residence status which confers the rights under this Title and a document evidencing such status which may be in a digital form.
Applying for such a residence status shall be subject to the following conditions:
(d) where the deadline for submitting the application referred to in point (b) is not respected by the persons concerned, the competent authorities shall assess all the circumstances and reasons for not respecting the deadline and shall allow those persons to submit an application within a reasonable further period of time if there are reasonable grounds for the failure to respect the deadline;
1. The host State may require Union citizens or United Kingdom nationals, their respective family members and other persons, who reside in its territory in accordance with the conditions set out in this Title, to apply for a new residence status which confers the rights under this Title and a document evidencing such status which may be in a digital form.
Applying for such a residence status shall be subject to the following conditions:
(o) the competent authorities of the host State shall help the applicants to prove their eligibility and to avoid any errors or omissions in their applications; they shall give the applicants the opportunity to furnish supplementary evidence and to correct any deficiencies, errors or omissions;
(r) the applicant shall have access to judicial and, where appropriate, administrative redress procedures in the host State against any decision refusing to grant the residence status. The redress procedures shall allow for an examination of the legality of the decision, as well as of the facts and circumstances on which the proposed decision is based. Such redress procedures shall ensure that the decision is not disproportionate.
As you only have two weeks (unless they give you an extension, you may want to start reading some Articles in the Withdrawal Agreement. You can use the Article to make your point.
27. A lot of the difficulty in this area is that identified by the Judge based upon the complexity and poor drafting of the provisions of the rules and guidance. In Ferrer (limited appeal grounds; Alvi) [2012] UKUT 00304(IAC) the Tribunal held, inter alia, applying Philipson (ILR – not PBS: evidence) [2012] UKUT 00039 (IAC), that where the provisions in question are ambiguous or obscure, then it is legitimate to interpret the provisions by assuming that Parliament is unlikely to have sanctioned rules which (a) treat a limited class of persons unfairly; and (b) disclose no policy reason for that unfairness.
The Immigration Rules Appendix EU cannot override the agreed legal provisions set out in the Withdrawal Agreement.
28. I find it is also a fair assumption that Parliament would not have sanctioned provision of the Immigration rules or Guidance suggesting a course of action or procedure contrary to the Withdrawal Agreement.
In relation to the guidance, it is merely that, guidance, not a statement of the law, and cannot override the obligations set out in the Withdrawal Agreement.
Hi, Thank you again for your response, I took some time away to gather what I need put into context. And tbh I wasn’t coping mentally. I am a bit better now. I was wondering do you know if using this quotemarcidevpal wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 8:23 pmAs you only have two weeks (unless they give you an extension, you may want to start reading some Articles in the Withdrawal Agreement. You can use the Article to make your point.
I think you should fill out the skeleton argument. It is difficult for people to help you based on just a quote. Whether or not something is relevant, depends on your overall strategy. A quote is used to support an argument you make. A quote is not good on its own. Any argument you make will be specific to you. So the quotes you choose should specifically help you as you make your argument.
What that means, generally speakingA new matter on Article 8 grounds was raised under s.85 Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002
The President also says he can not consider human rights without consent from the Home Office, based on Section 85 of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002.92. The first question is to decide whether the First-tier Tribunal has jurisdiction, in an appeal of this kind, to consider human rights. The question arises because decision-making under residence scheme immigration rules (Appendix EU) does not involve a consideration of the applicant’s (or any other person’s) rights under Article 8 of the ECHR.
96. Given what we have said about the nature of the respondent’s decision-making under Appendix EU, the raising of a human rights claim will always be a” new matter”, except where, for some reason, the respondent has already considered it.
97. Since the respondent had not consented, the First-tier Tribunal Judge was prevented by regulation 9(5) from considering any Article 8 argument.
The Hon Mr Justice Lane says that only certain types of appeals can consider human rights. He does not define which appeals qualify by reference to the appropriate regulations. The appropriate documents are the Human Rights Act, the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights, and others. The appropriate reference document IS NOT a statutory instrument. Statutory instruments contain unlawful provisions far too often.92. The first question is to decide whether the First-tier Tribunal has jurisdiction, in an appeal of this kind, to consider human rights. The question arises because decision-making under residence scheme immigration rules (Appendix EU) does not involve a consideration of the applicant’s (or any other person’s) rights under Article 8 of the ECHR.
In the September 2022 case of Ms E.K. versus the Netherlands, the President, Vice-President, and other Judges of the European Court of Justice (CJEU) said that to deny Zambrano carers permanent residence after five years is unlawful. Moreover, Zambrano carers should have been considered 'habitually resident'.(2) Residence in the United Kingdom as a result of a derivative right to reside does not constitute residence for the purpose of this regulation.
Thank you for this. What I was intending to ask was could I include a section of this argument within my skeleton argument. highlighting the quote from Judge Underhill, due to the fact I no longer hold further leave to remain as it’s expired in April 2022. And at the time of the decision no consideration was given to how this would impact the British children. You are right when you’ve stated I may have a right of retain residence as the family member of an EEA national. However, I may find it hard evidencing this has the EEA national have died in 2015 & other than a death certificate, I hold no further information which home office will require.marcidevpal wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:48 amI think you should fill out the skeleton argument. It is difficult for people to help you based on just a quote. Whether or not something is relevant, depends on your overall strategy. A quote is used to support an argument you make. A quote is not good on its own. Any argument you make will be specific to you. So the quotes you choose should specifically help you as you make your argument.
I also get the impression you believe you are no longer the family member of an EEA national. I am not sure if that is true. You may want to "contend" or "assert" that you remain the family member of an EEA national and let the Home Office prove you are not. If you are the family member of an EEA national, you are definitely covered by the Withdrawal Agreement. Zambrano carers do not automatically have that option.
Perhaps consider contending:
1.) You are the family member of an EEA national who achieved five years residence and so is entitled to residence under Appendix EU
2.) You are a Zambrano carer who achieved five years residence and based on E.K.'s case, are entitled to residence
Does that make sense? It is a really important point you should take time to understand. There are 2 definitions of a Zambrano carer.
It seems you are mixing points that should be in your witness statement with points that should be in you ASA (appellant's skeleton argument).Wishfulgirl wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:08 pmHow can I word it professionally that I held EEA family permit for 5 years and I should by law receive settlement under this route or Zambrano route and any decision to strip me of such right is unlawful?
Okay understood. I was of the view the witness statement was information provided at the point the appeal was made and the skeleton argument is what will be attached along with the other supporting evidence? Am I wrong with this view? Should I be providing two separate word document ie witness statement & skeleton argument separately. I really feel this appeal is gonna be dismissed because now I am definitely unsure what I am doing. In august I sent the appeal form, the skeleton argument from this forum ( I edited it to suit my circumstances) and within the appeal form, I thought I included my was mean to be my witness statement. So are you saying I done all that wrong? Now they’re asking me to provide a skeleton argument and attached and send everything to the home office? Now I am really confused. I knew I didn’t have much confidence when I originally sent the appeal back in august however now I’m definitely confuse. So to put it right, I should be providing my witnesses statement, skeleton argument, supporting documents, school letters, GP letters, Zambrano refusal letter and anything else? I hope not to seem difficult in my understanding. However I must highlight I struggle to understand complex information sometimes & often require rereading to fully grasp the information. My apologies, but I do really need the help as I am running out of time & would be devastated if the appeal is dismissed because I failed to provide the relevant information to the courts and the home office.marcidevpal wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:37 pmIt seems you are mixing points that should be in your witness statement with points that should be in you ASA (appellant's skeleton argument).Wishfulgirl wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:08 pmHow can I word it professionally that I held EEA family permit for 5 years and I should by law receive settlement under this route or Zambrano route and any decision to strip me of such right is unlawful?
I can't help you unless you 1.) use the template provided and 2.) put your arguments in the right category within the template.