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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Premo85 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:25 am

Guys I need help with home office inconsistent of whom to grant or qualify for zambrano.

In accordance with the Court of Appeal judgment in Velaj v Secretary of State
for the Home Department [2022] EWCA Civ 767 (paragraphs 47-52), the
decision-maker has to consider whether, in practice, the British citizen would be
required to leave the UK, the EEA and Switzerland if the applicant were in fact
required to leave the UK for an indefinite period. This is a fact-specific enquiry
and is not to be based on a hypothetical or counterfactual assumption.
It is not accepted that you satisfied sub-paragraph (a)(iii) of the definition of a
‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’. This is because from the information
and evidence provided or otherwise available, it is considered that XXX would not in practice be compelled to leave the UK, the
EEA and Switzerland if you were required to leave the UK for an indefinite
period.
This is because although you have never applied for leave under Appendix FM,
from the information and evidence provided or otherwise available, it is
considered that, on the balance of probabilities, you are likely to have qualified
for Appendix FM leave if you had applied for this before 11pm on 31 December
2020. This is because you have stated on your application form that you are a
joint primary carer over XxX and have provided as part
of your evidence, a school letter from nursery dated January 2023
confirming you and your partner AA are XXX joint primary carers. As you have demonstrated your relationship and
primary care over XXX, who is a British Citizen, it is
determined that an application made by yourself, under Appendix FM to the
Immigration Rules, would have had a realistic prospect of success.
Therefore, you have not demonstrated you would have been in fact required to
leave the UK for an indefinite period.
We are therefore satisfied that in practice the British citizen would not have
been compelled to leave the UK, the EEA and Switzerland because you would
not in fact have been required to leave the UK for an indefinite period
Has anyone got refusal on such grounds and won appeal?

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Post by marcidevpal » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:22 pm

They say your child would not have to leave the UK, if you left the UK, because you would have qualified for leave under Appendix FM. A reasonable argument by the Home Office would be, if you left the UK, your child would stay because they are an adult, or because someone else can raise them. But, your child is not an adult? Also, even if someone else can raise them, that has been shown in court to not be sufficient reason to refuse Zambrano status. Neither the EEA Regulations, nor Appendix EU of the EU Settlement Scheme require Zambrano carers to apply first for leave under Appendix FM. It just seems they don't WANT to give you settlement under EUSS and are saying just about anything to refuse you. You seem committed to appealing the refusal. Their refusal reason seems pretty short and sweet. Your argument could also be straightforward.

The next question is, will you use a lawyer or will you file the appeal yourself? If you do use a lawyer, you should find people who have tried Zambrano cases and won. You can look on the tribunal decisions website and search for Zambrano and EUSS. If you want to file yourself, you can quote UK judges in your appeal. I believe Mostyn J addressed the point of whether or not you are required to apply for leave under Appendix FM in Akinsaya v SSHD. See - https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ad ... /1535.html

Here is one quote at paragraph 64 -
64. The argument now advanced on behalf of the Secretary of State is that I should construe the 2016 Regulations so that they conform with what she maintains to be the true scope of the Zambrano jurisprudence. I have already rejected the Secretary of State's argument that the true scope of the Zambrano jurisprudence does not extend to people with limited leave to remain. That should be the end of the matter.
Likewise, the 'true scope' of the Zambrano jurisprudence does not entail to first make an application under Appendix FM or similar. Zambrano carers always had a choice as to whether they wanted to remain under the EU rules, or both the EU and UK immigration rules.

Here is another quote at paragraph 67 -
67. When the court is construing domestic legislation which is intended to transpose an EU directive, but which does not appear fully to do so, then the court is permitted to construe the domestic legislation in a way which is both broad and far-reaching. It is allowed in such circumstances to depart from the strict and literal application of the words which the legislature has elected to use, and it permits the implication of words necessary to comply with EU law obligations. However, the meaning thus derived must go with the grain of the legislation and must be compatible with its underlying thrust; further, the interpretation must not be inconsistent with a fundamental or cardinal feature of the legislation. See Vodafone 2 v Revenue and Customs Commissioners [2009] EWCA Civ 446 per Sir Andrew Morritt C at [37] – [38].
The Home Office, or SSHD, will essentially be asking the Court to rewrite Zambrano jurisprudence in a way that would undermine its intentions.

I would probably appeal on paper and send a lot of cases, but many people prefer appeals in person. Good luck!

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Post by Premo85 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:17 pm

marcidevpal wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:22 pm
They say your child would not have to leave the UK, if you left the UK, because you would have qualified for leave under Appendix FM. A reasonable argument by the Home Office would be, if you left the UK, your child would stay because they are an adult, or because someone else can raise them. But, your child is not an adult? Also, even if someone else can raise them, that has been shown in court to not be sufficient reason to refuse Zambrano status. Neither the EEA Regulations, nor Appendix EU of the EU Settlement Scheme require Zambrano carers to apply first for leave under Appendix FM. It just seems they don't WANT to give you settlement under EUSS and are saying just about anything to refuse you. You seem committed to appealing the refusal. Their refusal reason seems pretty short and sweet. Your argument could also be straightforward.

The next question is, will you use a lawyer or will you file the appeal yourself? If you do use a lawyer, you should find people who have tried Zambrano cases and won. You can look on the tribunal decisions website and search for Zambrano and EUSS. If you want to file yourself, you can quote UK judges in your appeal. I believe Mostyn J addressed the point of whether or not you are required to apply for leave under Appendix FM in Akinsaya v SSHD. See - https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ad ... /1535.html

Here is one quote at paragraph 64 -
64. The argument now advanced on behalf of the Secretary of State is that I should construe the 2016 Regulations so that they conform with what she maintains to be the true scope of the Zambrano jurisprudence. I have already rejected the Secretary of State's argument that the true scope of the Zambrano jurisprudence does not extend to people with limited leave to remain. That should be the end of the matter.
Likewise, the 'true scope' of the Zambrano jurisprudence does not entail to first make an application under Appendix FM or similar. Zambrano carers always had a choice as to whether they wanted to remain under the EU rules, or both the EU and UK immigration rules.

Here is another quote at paragraph 67 -
67. When the court is construing domestic legislation which is intended to transpose an EU directive, but which does not appear fully to do so, then the court is permitted to construe the domestic legislation in a way which is both broad and far-reaching. It is allowed in such circumstances to depart from the strict and literal application of the words which the legislature has elected to use, and it permits the implication of words necessary to comply with EU law obligations. However, the meaning thus derived must go with the grain of the legislation and must be compatible with its underlying thrust; further, the interpretation must not be inconsistent with a fundamental or cardinal feature of the legislation. See Vodafone 2 v Revenue and Customs Commissioners [2009] EWCA Civ 446 per Sir Andrew Morritt C at [37] – [38].
The Home Office, or SSHD, will essentially be asking the Court to rewrite Zambrano jurisprudence in a way that would undermine its intentions.

I would probably appeal on paper and send a lot of cases, but many people prefer appeals in person. Good luck!
Thank you marcidevpal.
Yes I'm definitely going to appeal but because the reason is so funny. I'm just confused if I should use a lawyer or do it myself. I don't know if I can put things together myself. Maybe you could guide me

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Post by marcidevpal » Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:40 pm

The UK judges have told the Home Office time and time again that they can not refuse Zambrano carers for this reason - that you should have applied under Appendix FM. Yet, the Home Office keep refusing people for this reason. So, now you have to deal with the stress and financial burden of fighting a refusal that is obviously irrational and therefore unlawful.

If you go online to the First-tier Tribunal website, they give you boxes to fill in. You don't have a lot of room to write your arguments so you could keep it simple. I can only help in the most general terms.
  • Step 1: Make sure you fully understand all of the reasons you were refused. Read the letter again carefully.
  • Step 2: Summarize the reasons in a few sentences.
  • Step 3: For each reason, think about why it is wrong in simple terms.
  • Step 4: Support your arguments from Step 3 with either quotations from UK judges who have already addressed the refusal reason or with references to previous case law.
  • Step 5: Complete the form. Pay the fee for an in person or paper hearing.
  • Step 6: Prepare your witness statement and skeleton argument. Number your pages. Try to make one main point per paragraph. Number your paragraphs. Make sure you sign the witness statement and send documents to the court and to the Home Office. If the Home Office does not give you their contact information, tell the Court clerk's you could not serve the Home Office for this reason.

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Post by marcidevpal » Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:16 pm

Giraldo

Between

THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE DEPARTMENT Appellant
and
SANDRA MILENA HOYOS GIRALDO
(NO ANONYMITY DIRECTION MADE)
Respondent


Representation:
For the appellant: Mr Steven Walker, a Senior Home Office Presenting Officer
For the respondent: Mr Adrian Berry of Counsel, instructed by Wilson Barca Solicitors

Signed Sureta Chana Date: 2 November 2022
Deputy Upper Tribunal Judge Chana

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov. ... 01800-2021

SUMMARY

The Secretary of State refused Giraldo's application for a permanent right of residence under the EU Settlement Scheme (EUSS) application, with reference to Appendix EU. At the date of application, she was on the path to settlement under Appendix FM (private and family life) with leave granted on 12 March 2015 and extended to 29 May 2020.

Unlike you, on 6 March 2020, the claimant applied for further leave, but under Appendix EU as a Zambrano carer, rather than under Article 8 ECHR.

The Secretary of State refused Giraldo's application for just about the same reason they refused you - because she was not satisfied that the claimant required Zambrano leave.
Zambrano leave was a last resort and was not appropriate here. The claimant had previously had Article 8 ECHR leave to remain and there was a realistic prospect that she would be granted further such leave
In your appeal, try to establish whether or not the Home Office agree that you are a Zambrano carer.
The claimant satisfies Regulation 16(2)(-(6). The subsection relevant to her is Regulation 16(5) which regulates the position of third country national carers of British citizen children, that is to say, Zambrano carers. There is no dispute that this claimant meets the requirements of that Regulation.

If the Home Office accept that you ARE IN FACT a Zambrano carer, then they must accept you qualify for leave to remain under EUSS -
Mr Walker accepted at the hearing that, applying Akinsanya, the First-tier Tribunal Judge did not err in allowing the appeal, as at the date of decision, the claimant did not have indefinite leave to remain and was a Zambrano carer. If the claimant were removed, her daughter would be unable to remain in the UK without her.


The judge should then grant your appeal (hopefully).
On that basis, the Secretary of State’s appeal falls to be dismissed and the First-tier Tribunal decision upheld.

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Post by marcidevpal » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:51 pm

Correction!
Unlike you, on 6 March 2020, the claimant applied for further leave, but under Appendix EU as a Zambrano carer, rather than under Article 8 ECHR.
It should say "Like you" and not "Unlike you." So, like you, she applied for EUSS at a time when she did not have Appendix FM. Also like you, the Home Office said she was not a Zambrano carer for this reason. The First-tier Tribunal Judge and the Upper Tribunal Judge decided against the Home Office. You may want to mention this case in your appeal. Best of luck!

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Post by Premo85 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:19 pm

marcidevpal wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:51 pm
Correction!
Unlike you, on 6 March 2020, the claimant applied for further leave, but under Appendix EU as a Zambrano carer, rather than under Article 8 ECHR.
It should say "Like you" and not "Unlike you." So, like you, she applied for EUSS at a time when she did not have Appendix FM. Also like you, the Home Office said she was not a Zambrano carer for this reason. The First-tier Tribunal Judge and the Upper Tribunal Judge decided against the Home Office. You may want to mention this case in your appeal. Best of luck!
I got that. Thanks

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Post by marcidevpal » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:34 pm

Premo85 wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:19 pm
I just thought of another argument for your submissions / skeleton argument.

The Secretary of State appears to be arguing that you are not a Zambrano carer because:

1.) You could have applied and been successful for leave to remain under Appendix FM, and
2.) Based on having leave to remain under Appendix FM, you either would not be a Zambrano carer, or you would not meet the requirements of EUSS, which state that you can not have leave to remain under Appendix FM at the time of your application.

Here is my rebuttal:

1.) Even if you had applied for leave to remain under Appendix FM, the Court of Appeal ruled in Akinsaya v SSHD that you can still be a Zambrano carer if you later acquire leave to remain under Appendix FM.

2.) The fact remains, that at the point of application, you did not have leave to remain under Appendix FM. The Home Office can not refuse your application based on a hypothetical situation.

Finally, how long have you been in the UK? You could also raise the issue that their refusal interferes with your Article 8 human rights.

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Post by marcidevpal » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:13 pm

UK Barristers & Solicitors

My opinion only: Many barristers and solicitors will ask you for hundreds of pounds to "review your case". Then, they will tell you what you already know and suggest you just go for Appendix FM anyway. Be ware.

I really suggest Zambrano carers do the following: Create your own draft witness statement and skeleton argument. I provided sample templates earlier pages to show how it could look. Send it to the solicitor or barrister. They will probably want to have a conversation. Some may do it for free, others for 50 gbps, others for more.

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Post by marcidevpal » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:23 pm

UK Judges

You may wonder why the UK judges are so comfortable blatantly ignoring their human rights considerations for EUSS appeals?

1.) The Bill of Rights Bill, once passed, will replace the Human Rights Act and give judges the power to ignore case law from the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR).

2.) The Tory Government may have convinced the UK judges the UK will leave the Council of Europe and ECHR this Parliament. It takes about nine months to leave the Council of Europe. Suella Braverman apparently said the UK would be gone by the end of the year. That would mean Rishi Sunak would have to submit the withdrawal paperwork by March 2023 at the latest.

I am completely guessing here, but I think the UK judges thought that between the passage of the Bill of Rights Bill and the exit from the Council of Europe, they were safe to start ignoring ECtHR case law now. But their assumptions could be disproven as neither of the two could happen.

The Bill of Rights Bill has been around for years. It may not pass before the next general election. Apparently, Rishi Sunk has not set a date for the vote. Even if the UK leaves the Council of Europe under Rishi Sunak, the Labour Party would just rejoin when they win in the next general election.

The question becomes, what will the UK judges do at that point? Return to considering human rights in all appeals where it is relevant? Do you realise what that means? It means the Courts change their behavior based on the Government of the day. And that is precisely what the Courts are not supposed to be or do. They are supposed to be impartial and not bend to pressure from Government. What a mess.

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Post by marcidevpal » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:30 pm

Reminder: EUSS Appeals: Submissions

If you file an appeal, the judge will want to know your grounds of appeal. The Court will ask you for your "submissions". That means you must submit your grounds of appeal, at the very least, but you should also ideally include a witness statement. In other words, s/he wants to know the legal basis for your appeal. Legislation was passed that outlines the valid grounds for appeal for the EUSS. This type of legislation is called a 'statutory instrument'. It is secondary legislation. Secondary legislation does not go through the same level of analysis by MPs as primary legislation.

The statutory instrument for the EUSS outlines two grounds from appeal that may relate to Zambrano carers. Ground 1 is to argue that the Home Office's refusal goes against the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement. Ground 2 is that the refusal goes against the UK's Immigration Rules. The UK's Immigration Rules are divided into section, called Appendices. You may already be familiar with Appendix FM. The EUSS has its own appendix, called Appendix EU. So, ground two is that the refusal goes against Appendix EU.

I would argue for you to submit a third ground of appeal - that the refusal goes against your Article 8 human rights. The judges will probably disregard this ground, due the Celik v SSHD case. I understand that the secondary legislation, or statutory instrument, does not expressly mention human rights as a ground for appeal. The UK's Human Rights Act asks judges to consider human rights. The Human Rights Act is primary legislation (not secondary) in the UK. Therefore, even if secondary legislation does not explicitly mention human rights, I believe it remains a ground for appeal. You may want to seek legal advice on this topic.

Ground 1 - Not in Accordance with the Withdrawal Agreement(WA)
The WA prioritises Union Law above all other considerations. Human rights are fundamental to Union Law and share equal weight with the terms of any agreement. It is against the Charter of Fundamental Rights to invalidate residence rights acquired prior to Brexit and to not recognize rights acquired as a result of lawful residence post Brexit.

The Home Office will argue that UK Zambrano carers are not covered by the WA. This question really should have gone before the European Court of Justice, sometimes referred to as the CJEU or ECJ. I don't see how Zambrano carers will have their day in court, because the Independent Monitoring Authority (IMA) in the UK seems uninterested in Zambrano carers. The IMA has the right to take the UK to Court if a dispute arises in the WA. It is funded by the UK's Ministry of Justice....

Ground 2 - Not in Accordance with the Immigration Rules (Appendix EU)
During the Akinsaya v SSHD hearings, the UK courts asked the Home Office to clarify what it sought to achieve by adding Zambrano carers to the EUSS. The courts said that if the Home Office intended to give residence to Zambrano carers based on the EU's definition of the term, then they could not exclude Zambrano carers who also had leave to remain under Appendix FM. The Home Office then effectively said their aim was to exclude a subsection of Zambrano carers. The Courts have not evaluated whether or not this position is irrational or discriminatory.

If you are a Zambrano carer who did not hold leave to remain under Appendix FM on 31 December 2020, then, based on the Giraldo case, you should be successful in your appeal. However, there is little consistency to the judgements coming out of the First-tier and Upper Tribunals, so you have to take that with a grain of salt. The key problem with the Giraldo case, is the judge took into account time spent in the UK under Appendix FM and applied it to Appendix EU. According to the Immigration Rules, time spent under Appendix FM should not have counted. So, even when people win, the logic applied by the judges is not necessarily internally consistent....

No judge addresses the issue that the Home Office never warned Zambrano carers that holding leave to remain under Appendix FM on 31 December 2020 would disqualify them from residence under EUSS. The Home Office were silent for most of the period. At other times, they sent letters to Zambrano carers encouraging them to apply for leave to remain under Appendix FM before 31 December 2020. It was a trick that should never have worked in the UK courts.

If you are a Zambrano carer who did hold leave to remain under Appendix FM on 31 December 2020, the judge seems unlikely to accept ground 1 or ground 2 - although I am sure some people were successful, anyway. You may want to go for ground 3.

Ground 3 - Interference or Violation of Article 8 ECHR
This ground is particularly useful to Zambrano carers who have lived in the UK for a long period of time - say, five years or more. It is irrational for Zambrano carers to have to pay thousands of pounds and wait for sometimes decades to be granted permanent residence, as is the case for many.

Summary
To sum, I believe Zambrano carers should argue that they are covered by the WA, even though everyone says they are not. Who knows? Maybe someone will bring a challenge to the WA on behalf of Zambrano carers before the CJEU. You want to be able to say you also raised this point. I also believe they should raise human rights grounds, in case they want to continue their fight to the European Court of Justice.

Hope you found my summary useful :)

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Post by marcidevpal » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:04 pm

Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act (2002)

In the previous post, I mentioned that the Human Rights Act(HRA) asks UK judges to consider human rights where relevant. I also pointed out that secondary legislation, called a statutory instrument, for the EUSS does not list human rights violations (or interference) as an available ground for appeal.

The Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act
Another piece of primary legislation, the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act, gives them reason to not have to consider your human rights - unless the Home Office agrees. The purpose of this Act is to ensure the Courts are not consider your human rights again and again. With the EUSS, your human rights were never considered.

Article 13 ECHR - Right to an effective remedy
Ordinarily, you would argue to the European Court of Human Rights that the UK Judges have not considered your human rights. That would be a violation of your Article 13 right to an effective remedy. The UK signed up to the Council of Europe. For the UK judges to not consider human rights is arguably a violation of Article 13: Right to an effective remedy.

Therefore, the UK may argue the Judges do not have to consider your human rights on EUSS appeals because another effective remedy exists. You can always 'make a human rights application'.

Does the right to make a human rights application via judicial review, or to apply for residence under Appendix FM amount to an 'effective remedy' under Article 13?
Where immigration cases are concerned, the Court’s sole concern, in keeping with the principle of subsidiarity, is to examine the effectiveness of the domestic procedures and ensure that they respect human rights (De Souza Ribeiro v. France [GC], 2012, § 84)
In the case of Ribeiro v France, Mr Ribeiro could not access effective remedies in respect of his complaint under Article 8.

One point to raise before the European Court of Human Rights, is the fact that the UK judges have, essentially, considered human rights on EUSS applications. Remember the legal claim with the older Zambrano carer? The judge did not say in her decision that she was granting her residence based on Article 8. The judge said that the woman did not meet the requirements of EUSS, but she gave her residence under EUSS anyway. The UK judges should have considered human rights on all EUSS applications, or on none at all. The fact that the UK judges did, on occasion, consider human rights, shows that they don't really care about the issue on principle.

Moreover, the Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration call for human rights to be considered. I wonder what the European Court will say about UK judges not taking into account human rights on EUSS applications given that the agreements explicitly call for it?

Another point is that if someone applies under EUSS, they have a different immigration situation than someone who applied under Appendix FM or some other scheme. Being forced into applying under another scheme may put Zambrano carers at risk of future discriminatory practices under the hostile environment promoted by the Home Office.

Basically, if you believe you have a right to reside under one scheme based on Article 8, do you have a right to compel the UK courts to consider you under that scheme? Or, is the UK allowed to argue, some scheme appeals are open to human rights considerations and others are not? It is such an important question. The heart of it amounts to whether or not the UK can lawfully discriminate against some groups of people.

I personally believe any scheme or appendix the UK creates should be appealable on human rights grounds. To block off some schemes from Article 8, would be to create Appendix ghettos.

My final point. The question of whether or not Article 13 was violated will always come second to whether or not Article 8 was violated -
However, where the Court finds a violation of Article 8 on procedural aspects, it may take the
view that there is no need to examine separately the complaint under Article 13, even though it is closely related to that under Article 8.
https://www.echr.coe.int/documents/guide_art_13_eng.pdf
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20 ... on/enacted

Fun facts:
  • The Council of Europe has a steering committee to ensure countries such as the UK follow the requirements of the European Convention on Human Rights and the case law of the European Court of Human Rights (CDDH)
  • The European Union wants to join the European Convention on Human Rights.

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Post by marcidevpal » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:52 pm

United Nations General Assembly - Human Rights Council

The UK is currently a member of the UN Human Rights Council!!

"The Human Rights Council is an inter-governmental body within the United Nations system made up of 47 States responsible for the promotion and protection of all human rights around the globe.It meets at the UN Office at Geneva. The Member States are elected by the majority of members of the General Assembly of the United Nations through direct and secret ballot. The General Assembly takes into account the candidate States' contribution to the promotion and protection of human rights, as well as their voluntary pledges and commitments in this regard." LOL!!!!

"Members of the Council serve for a period of three years and are not eligible for immediate re-election after serving two consecutive terms. With membership on the Council comes a responsibility to uphold high human rights standards. This is a criteria insisted on by States themselves when they adopted resolution 60/251 in March 2006 to create the Human Rights Council."

Human Rights Council - Second session of the Forum on Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law* Report of the Chair (2019)

Promotion and protection of all human rights, civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights, including the right to development
III. Parliaments as key actors for the promotion of human rights,democracy and the rule of law
B. Recommendations
40. States should take a human rights-based approach to addressing the issue of migration and should work with States of origin, transit and destination to design policies and practices that place human dignity at the centre. Parliaments must recognize the importance of, and promote an inclusive dialogue on, migration, involving different ministries, local authorities, international organizations and civil society organizations, and especially migrants. Parliaments should contribute to changing the public perception of migration as a negative phenomenon and highlight the contribution of migrants to society. Parliaments must take measures to eradicate discrimination against migrants, while taking into account a gender perspective and the best interests of the child. Parliaments should help to address the root causes of forced migration.
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UND ... penElement

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Post by Premo85 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:47 pm

marcidevpal wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:34 pm
Premo85 wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:19 pm
I just thought of another argument for your submissions / skeleton argument.

The Secretary of State appears to be arguing that you are not a Zambrano carer because:

1.) You could have applied and been successful for leave to remain under Appendix FM, and
2.) Based on having leave to remain under Appendix FM, you either would not be a Zambrano carer, or you would not meet the requirements of EUSS, which state that you can not have leave to remain under Appendix FM at the time of your application.

Here is my rebuttal:

1.) Even if you had applied for leave to remain under Appendix FM, the Court of Appeal ruled in Akinsaya v SSHD that you can still be a Zambrano carer if you later acquire leave to remain under Appendix FM.

2.) The fact remains, that at the point of application, you did not have leave to remain under Appendix FM. The Home Office can not refuse your application based on a hypothetical situation.

Finally, how long have you been in the UK? You could also raise the issue that their refusal interferes with your Article 8 human rights.
Exactly. They still grant people who have had leave remain before under Appendix FM. So why would you refuse someone who had no leave to remain at the time of Application.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:28 pm

Premo85 wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:47 pm
Or, put another way....How does the Home Office decide who they want to approve versus not approve? Is it by country of origin, perhaps?? Nah, that would be (racially) discriminatory....

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:47 pm

Options for Zambrano Carers on EUSS

1.) Be lucky and get approved by the Home Office. I say luck because the majority were refused based on published statistics.

2.) Be lucky and win your appeal before the First-tier Tribunal. I say lucky because this option is unlikely if you are a litigant in person, but still possible.

3.) Be lucky and win in the Upper Tribunal. Same reason as in item two.

4.) Appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. You probably have a pretty good chance.

5.) The Independent Monitoring Authority (IMA) takes the United Kingdom to court before the European Court of Justice. This option is highly unlikely as the IMA have not announced plans to take any such action (see UK Ministry of Justice).

6.) Complain to the United Nations via the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) is a review of the human rights records of each UN Member State. The United Kingdom's review happens every five years - in 2012, 2017 and next should be in 2023.

7.) Complain to the United Nations via the Human Rights Council Advisory Committee. It has 18 experts who will review your complaint. They take complaints from the public about any country. They meet twice a year, for one week in February immediately before the March session of the Council and for one week in August.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:52 pm

United Nations Human Rights - Universal Periodic Review

The United Nations publishes a summary of the complaints received during the Universal Periodic Review. The most recent version was published in November 2022. It made absolutely NO MENTION of Zambrano carers. The situation of UK Zambrano carers should have appeared under the section called Migrants, refugees and asylum-seekers. See page 9. You can read it here - https://uprdoc.ohchr.org/Account/Login. ... urnUrl=%2f

To submit your complaint see below -
Stakeholders’ submissions should be sent – according to the deadlines below - through the "On-line UPR submissions registration system" to register contributions for the UPR documentation from UN entities and stakeholders available in the following link: https://uprdoc.ohchr.org. Stakeholders should follow the Guidelines for the Use of the On-Line UPR Submissions Registration System" available in the Online system.
Important note: all UPR submissions must be submitted and received (through theOn-line system for registration of contributions) not later than the day of the given deadline (3:00 p.m. Geneva time). Late submissions will not be considered. Should organizations encounter technical problems using the Online system, please contact the UPR Submissions Helpdesk through the following email address: ohchr-uprsubmissions@un.org.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/upr/gb-index

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:55 pm

United Nations Human Rights Council - Complaint Procedure

https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/ ... dure-index

On 18 June 2007, a new complaint procedure was established to address
  • consistent patterns of gross and reliably attested violations of all human rights and
  • all fundamental freedoms
  • occurring in any part of the world and
  • under any circumstances.
The complaint procedure addresses communications submitted by individuals, groups, or non-governmental organizations that claim to be victims of human rights violations or that have direct, reliable knowledge of such violations.

Complaint Procedure Unit
Human Rights Council Branch
Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights
United Nations Office at Geneva
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Fax: (41 22) 917 90 11
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:30 am

President of the Upper Tribunal - Celik

The President made clear that UK judges should not consider human rights on Celik. Multiple Zambrano carers will receive the same refusal letters. The UK judges have ruled time and time again that those refusal reasons are unlawful.

The President could have used his authority to make it clear that the Home Office's refusal reasons are unlawful. The judges would then automatically decide these appeals in favor of the Zambrano carer and against the Home Office.

Zambrano carers would save a lot of time, money and stress. Justice would be carried out in a clear and consistent manner.

Isn't it interesting that the President has only used his power to deny human rights at scale, rather than stop abusive refusals by the Home Office?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:48 am

United Nations Geneva Convention & Council of Europe, ECHR

Geneva Conventions are a series of international treaties to protect soldiers and civilians. The first treaty was signed in 1864. It was originally a Swiss idea, but the Geneva Convention officially became part of the United Nations in 1949 (Article 159).

The European Convention on Human Rights was created because the Geneva Convention was not detailed enough. People committed abuses despite having signed the Geneva Conventions. ECHR came into force in 1953.

Even if the United Kingdom leaves the Council of Europe and the ECHR, it isn't going to leave the United Nations. That means the Geneva Convention will still apply to the United Kingdom. Moreover, the United Nations created the Human Rights Council.

If you win at the European Court of Human Rights, the court will order the United Kingdom to:
• pay you some amount of money;
• take individual measures to fix the problem; and
• take general measures to prevent the violation happening again or to put an end to
an ongoing violation.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:20 pm

Celik happened after the human rights review deadline

The reviews of each country's human rights record happens about every five years. We are now in the fourth cycle. This cycle ends in 2027. The United Kingdom was among the first countries to finish their review. People had to submit comments by March 2022. The UK's report was due in August 2022. Celik happened a couple of months later. Is it a coincidence that the UK created case law to stop human rights considerations after the deadline for its United Nations review? The UK won't have the review again for another five years....

First cycle was from 2008 to 2011
Second cycle was from 2012 to 2016
Third cycle was from 2017 to 2022
Fourth cycle is from 2022 to 2027

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:40 pm

What you could do this week (or next)

The Human Rights Council Advisory Committee are going to meet at the end of February to discuss human rights violations!!!!.

Therefore, if you do choose to complain to the United Nations, you may want to complain before the end of February. Imagine if they received a bunch of complaints from migrants within the UK.... :) :) :)

As a member of the public, you can submit a complaint about the United Kingdom to the Human Rights Council for free. The process can take as little as 15 minutes.

The Chairperson of the Working Group on Communications and the Secretariat will review your complaint. If the accept your complaint as valid, they will send information about your complaint to the United Kingdom.

Your complaint is confidential. You have to give your name to the United Nations, but they won't give your name to the United Kingdom without your permission.

The Working Group on Communications and the Working Group on Situations will tell the Human Rights Council about the United Kingdom's human rights violations, if they agree there has been a violation.

How it works:

Fill out the form. Email the form and a copy of your evidence to ohchr-cp@un.org

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:49 pm

Data sharing returns

A decision to reintroduce the checks was signalled by Rishi Sunak last month. As well as blocking access to banking for those without immigration status, it intends to find new ways of checking individuals’ immigration status when they use schools or the NHS. A government watchdog found in 2017 that one in 10 people refused a bank account because of a failed immigration check were wrongly denied access.
Indian, Pakistani, and Nigerian nationals account for over a third of the temporary migrant population impacted by data-sharing between other Government departments to regulate their access to work, benefits and services under the policy. Data sharing led to the loss of their homes and jobs, and being denied access to healthcare and benefits.
Jacqueline McKenzie, who represented many of the original Windrush victims and is a partner at the law firm Leigh Day, said:
“The hostile environment never really went away but, for outward appearances, the language was changed. But it is distressing nevertheless to hear of a formal resumption of the ideas.”
“Once again, a home secretary wants to place non-state actors in a position of snooping and passing on information which they hold in confidence. In arguing that there’s a need to check on illegal working, the government is peddling the idea that migrants are stealing the jobs of British people, but have not offered any evidence or data to support their claim.”

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:30 am

United Nations Human Rights Investigators

When you submit a complaint to the United Nations, it gets reviewed. If it is valid, a special investigation can be opened. The claim is assigned to an investigator, called a special rapporteur. Special rapporteurs are not paid. They can visit places, talk to people such as you, MPs, Judges, the Home Office, etc. If they decide your human rights were violated, a report is created for that country. The report is called a "Communication". Communications recommend changes the UK should make to treat people fairly.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-migrants

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:31 am

Special Rapporteur for Migrants

Dr Felipe Gonzalez Morales is responsible for Migrants. (If he is busy, or if a bunch of people complain they may appoint a new Special Rapporteur just for the UK).

The Special Rapporteur on the human rights of migrants is an independent expert appointed by the United Nations Human Rights Council. The program began in 1999 by the Commission on Human Rights. It covers all countries.

Felipe González Morales has been the Special Rapporteur on the human rights of migrants since 2017. He is a Professor of International Law at the Diego Portales University, in Santiago, Chile, where he is also the Director of a Master in International Human Rights Law. He was a Commissioner and the Rapporteur on Migrants between 2008 and 2015 at the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, where he was President from 2010 to 2011.

Mr. Felipe González Morales
Special Rapporteur on the human rights of migrants
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Email: hrc-sr-migrant@un.org

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