Tourist visa rejected twice for valid and fair reasons. Advice on next steps?

[cosseeker1]

Hello forum members,

My brother got his tourist visa rejected yesterday and in hindsight and after taking a detailed look at the documents he submitted the reasons provided by the casework make sense. He basically indicated monthly expenses that didn't match with his bank statement and many times he hit 0 in his savings accounts as he moved money around between current and savings, which I know is a red flag. I've posted below the detailed response and working on the finances next time is something he will take seriously to at least demonstrate that he has enough money to support himself during the trip. We're more concerned about number 2 which is his ability to demonstrate ties to the country where he resides. He's a Moroccan expat living in the UAE for 2 years now with a decent salary, a permanent position and he provided his rental agreement as well as his UAE residence permit when applying. I've posted the detailed reasons of refusal below but my 2 questions are:

A. Besides these documents and a cover letter, what else provide or do to can he demonstrate these ties when applying again next time? Or does this reason get triggered if finances are not adequate and it's included in every rejection letter?

B. This is the second time he gets the visa rejected - he first applied 5 years ago as a student without providing any bank statements (which made sense why it got rejected). Two rejections are a lot and I understand it will put any new applications under more scrutiny. Any advice on how to overcome this and increase chances of success (besides of course sorting out finances and addressing point A)?

Thanks for your help

• After reviewing your personal bank statements for accounts ending 4101 and 4102 I note that the balance regularly drops to relatively low levels such as IRR 29,111,697 16.72 AED (£3.62) on 20/06/2023, 51.20 AED (£11.10) on 20/08/2023 and 60.52 AED (£51.20) on 23/10/2023 in account ending 4101 and 0.00 AED (£0.00) on 19/08/2023 and 0.00 AED (£0.00) on 21/10/2023 in account ending 4102. This pattern of activity would indicate that your monthly expenses are higher than you have stated. Therefore, I am not satisfied the documents you have submitted demonstrate your circumstances are as you have stated. This undermines the credibility of the information provided in your application and leads me to doubt the intentions of your visit.

• In addition, it is your responsibility to satisfy me that your circumstances are such that if granted a visa to the UK, you will comply with all of the conditions attached to such visa and that you will leave the UK on completion of the proposed visit. You intend to travel to the UK to visit your brother and you have not shown from the supporting documents you have any other family members remaining in the country that you reside in or elsewhere. Furthermore, the documents you have provided do not demonstrate you hold any assets or property of your own.

I therefore rejected your visit visa taking into account:

1. Your financial circumstances as well as your family, social and economic background
2. Your personal and economic ties to you country of residence

[Ticktack]

Hello forum members,

My brother got his tourist visa rejected yesterday and in hindsight and after taking a detailed look at the documents he submitted the reasons provided by the casework make sense. He basically indicated monthly expenses that didn't match with his bank statement and many times he hit 0 in his savings accounts as he moved money around between current and savings, which I know is a red flag. I've posted below the detailed response and working on the finances next time is something he will take seriously to at least demonstrate that he has enough money to support himself during the trip. We're more concerned about number 2 which is his ability to demonstrate ties to the country where he resides. He's a Moroccan expat living in the UAE for 2 years now with a decent salary, a permanent position and he provided his rental agreement as well as his UAE residence permit when applying. I've posted the detailed reasons of refusal below but my 2 questions are:

A. Besides these documents and a cover letter, what else provide or do to can he demonstrate these ties when applying again next time? Or does this reason get triggered if finances are not adequate and it's included in every rejection letter?

B. This is the second time he gets the visa rejected - he first applied 5 years ago as a student without providing any bank statements (which made sense why it got rejected). Two rejections are a lot and I understand it will put any new applications under more scrutiny. Any advice on how to overcome this and increase chances of success (besides of course sorting out finances and addressing point A)? perfect the next application, no chance for errors.

Thanks for your help

• After reviewing your personal bank statements for accounts ending 4101 and 4102 I note that the balance regularly drops to relatively low levels such as IRR 29,111,697 16.72 AED (£3.62) on 20/06/2023, 51.20 AED (£11.10) on 20/08/2023 and 60.52 AED (£51.20) on 23/10/2023 in account ending 4101 and 0.00 AED (£0.00) on 19/08/2023 and 0.00 AED (£0.00) on 21/10/2023 in account ending 4102. This pattern of activity would indicate that your monthly expenses are higher than you have stated. Therefore, I am not satisfied the documents you have submitted demonstrate your circumstances are as you have stated. This undermines the credibility of the information provided in your application and leads me to doubt the intentions of your visit. Prior to any applications, never move money about (App101), and if you do. Show the second account and have a cover letter to explain.

• In addition, it is your responsibility to satisfy me that your circumstances are such that if granted a visa to the UK, you will comply with all of the conditions attached to such visa and that you will leave the UK on completion of the proposed visit. You intend to travel to the UK to visit your brother and you have not shown from the supporting documents you have any other family members remaining in the country that you reside in or elsewhere. Furthermore, the documents you have provided do not demonstrate you hold any assets or property of your own. Did he get a letter from work saying that they're aware that he's planning to travel to the UK for X amount of time. He should have shown his letter of employment, Immigration status where he his. Anything that shows that he's happy and settled where he currently resides.

I therefore rejected your visit visa taking into account:

1. Your financial circumstances as well as your family, social and economic background
2. Your personal and economic ties to you country of residence

As you've rightly deduced, it's a standard refusal all day long. The second reason isn't so bad. it's just to beef up the main reason.

[Frontier Mole]

The second refusal point is the death nell for future applications. Basically it sets the future scenario for further applications. No family and no ties to current country of residence nor country of origin. They can refuse on that basis until the cows come home. To overcome that point he is going to have to show serious commitments to either of the countries he has residence or citizenship.

UAE does not readily allow permanent residence but allows property purchase, so buying a property may give that tie to the UAE.

Having a job as a migrant in UAE is not a strong tie, it does not confer much in the way of rights and offers no job security.

[cosseeker1]

Thank you both for your responses. I agree with Ticktack on being super careful and clearly demonstrating strong financials next time and providing the usual documents that other people in a similar situation provide to support number 2 then end up getting a visa.

I don't believe he's desperate to visit the UK to the point of purchasing a property though...

[Ticktack]

Thank you both for your responses. I agree with Ticktack on being super careful and clearly demonstrating strong financials next time and providing the usual documents that other people in a similar situation provide to support number 2 then end up getting a visa.

I don't believe he's desperate to visit the UK to the point of purchasing a property though...

Just to give you some hope, I know someone that has been refused a visa to the UK 5 times. Different reasons with all the applications, he got it right the 6th time.

Just perfect the paperwork! Even Brits are not that rich to get on the property ladder.

[cosseeker1]

Thank you Ticktack, exactly the sort of positivity and hope I was looking for