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Will my application be rejected??

Post by metroplisss » Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:00 am

About 6 months before I applied for ILR, I was stop and searched by the police, because I lived in a particularly rough area. The search was short but resulted in a “no further action” since I do not do anything of the sort. Was more a symptom of wrong place wrong time. This was not something I put on my ILR application, since A) It is not a criminal offence, and did not result in caution, warning , arrest B) At the time Did not seem to be particularly relevant to my application since it resulted in a “no further action”.

My question to you: Is this something I should be worried about or will it not be considered or be seen by the Home office? I am worried since it may been as seen as omitting information?

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by Ticktack » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:27 am

metroplisss wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:00 am
About 6 months before I applied for ILR, I was stop and searched by the police, because I lived in a particularly rough area. The search was short but resulted in a “no further action” since I do not do anything of the sort. Was more a symptom of wrong place wrong time. This was not something I put on my ILR application, since A) It is not a criminal offence, and did not result in caution, warning , arrest B) At the time Did not seem to be particularly relevant to my application since it resulted in a “no further action”.

My question to you: Is this something I should be worried about or will it not be considered or be seen by the Home office? I am worried since it may been as seen as omitting information?
How could you be possible worried for a stop and search when they probably didn't even take your name and DOB?
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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by metroplisss » Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:42 pm

Unfortunately they did take my name and DoB, hence my worry

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by Frontier Mole » Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:22 pm

There is nothing to declare or add to your application regarding the stop and search. No action came from it so it was really no more than an ordinary interaction with police.

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by metroplisss » Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:28 pm

I see, that makes sense to me. Brings a lot of relief, since I originally thought it would’ve been classed under bad character/non conducive to the public ruling for ILR application (First time application). Am I correct in thinking that these “No Further Action” do not show up on Enhanced DBS?

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:56 pm

The last reply you got basically confirms this - "NFA" means nothing further has happened, no charge no court no DBS.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:51 pm

metroplisss wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:28 pm
I see, that makes sense to me. Brings a lot of relief, since I originally thought it would’ve been classed under bad character/non conducive to the public ruling for ILR application (First time application). Am I correct in thinking that these “No Further Action” do not show up on Enhanced DBS?
Means exactly that. Won't turn up anywhere.
Have you got reasons to be concerned besides what you have stated?

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by Ticktack » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 am

Next time you get stopped by the police. Never give you name and DOB. If you're driving, then you're legally obliged to. If not (just walking by) and you've not done anything wrong, call their bluff.
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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by Ticktack » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:41 am

WHAT WILL I BE ASKED FOR? An officer may ask you: 1. What you are up to 2. Your name 3. Your address 4. Your date of birth You DO NOT have to give these unless the officer has pointed out an offence he/she suspects you have committed.

https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default ... z-card.pdf
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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by Frontier Mole » Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:16 pm

Ticktack wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 am
Next time you get stopped by the police. Never give you name and DOB. If you're driving, then you're legally obliged to. If not (just walking by) and you've not done anything wrong, call their bluff.
That is a very USA type approach and is less than helpful. The suspicion clause is already invoked by implication, if you are stopped. The police officer has only to suspect you are carrying a weapon or drugs as basic examples to do a street stop - particularly in the Met area.

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by metroplisss » Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:24 am

AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:51 pm
metroplisss wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:28 pm
I see, that makes sense to me. Brings a lot of relief, since I originally thought it would’ve been classed under bad character/non conducive to the public ruling for ILR application (First time application). Am I correct in thinking that these “No Further Action” do not show up on Enhanced DBS?
Means exactly that. Won't turn up anywhere.
Have you got reasons to be concerned besides what you have stated?
Only reason for my concern was it was a Section 60 stop and search. One that allows sergeants to search people “given they are in a suspected area”. Another reason is the search was for Drugs but then again, it resulted in a NFA. Am I getting overly worked up about these details which won’t make a difference?

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by metroplisss » Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:24 am

AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:51 pm
metroplisss wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:28 pm
I see, that makes sense to me. Brings a lot of relief, since I originally thought it would’ve been classed under bad character/non conducive to the public ruling for ILR application (First time application). Am I correct in thinking that these “No Further Action” do not show up on Enhanced DBS?
Means exactly that. Won't turn up anywhere.
Have you got reasons to be concerned besides what you have stated?
Only reason for my concern was it was a Section 60 stop and search. One that allows sergeants to search people “given they are in a suspected area”. Another reason is the search was for Drugs but then again, it resulted in a NFA. Am I getting overly worked up about these details which won’t make a difference?

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by metroplisss » Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:27 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:56 pm
The last reply you got basically confirms this - "NFA" means nothing further has happened, no charge no court no DBS.
Will it be on the police system or PND? If so, will that be an issue in the future, or for my application ?

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Re: Will my application be rejected??

Post by Ticktack » Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:59 am

Frontier Mole wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:16 pm
Ticktack wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:29 am
Next time you get stopped by the police. Never give you name and DOB. If you're driving, then you're legally obliged to. If not (just walking by) and you've not done anything wrong, call their bluff.
That is a very USA type approach and is less than helpful. The suspicion clause is already invoked by implication, if you are stopped. The police officer has only to suspect you are carrying a weapon or drugs as basic examples to do a street stop - particularly in the Met area.
I'm just pointing out the OP's rights enshrined in the law. Clearly stated in what your rights are if stopped as you can see in the government issued document above.
London's police force is institutionally sexist, misogynistic, dearly beloved and homophobic, according to an independent report.
Their favourite words are, you look suspicious. Looking suspicious is not a crime, it's an opinion. That doesn't give anyone the right to ask for your personal details.
Yes it might delay them letting you go, but they have to rights to hold you as well.
This is a country with the rule of law. Your rights are there, use it.
Some police are on a power trip.

The police in any country, not just the USA are law enforcers, not law makers. If the law says here are your rights, then those are your rights.
Your personal details are exactly what they sound like, personal.

What you shouldn't do is lie to the police. But you don't have to talk to them or answer their questions.
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