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Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by OBI-one » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:23 pm

Hi,
I hope it's okay asking under someone else's post. Will it be okay to send a copy of ILR after the settled parent became naturalised and sent the BRP back to UKVI as per law? Could we use the parent's British passport and the old ILR copy?
alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:46 pm
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Yes you need to provide one of parents' BRP showing you had ILR at time of child's birth.
Thanks for confirmation.

Do we need to send original for BRP or we send copy for same, just confirming so the process ain't delayed.
HMPO require all original documents - make sure you keep copies.

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:40 pm

No, it’s not ok - tagging on to someone else’s post makes it difficult to moderate and reply to that posters query.

It’s better to start your own thread, continue here.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by contorted_svy » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:53 pm

No - best to send the original BRP to HMPO as they request and keep a copy. Your ILR BRP is the documentary proof of your child's British citizenship.
All advice comes from personal research and experience and should not be regarded as professional opinion.

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by OBI-one » Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:07 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:40 pm
No, it’s not ok - tagging on to someone else’s post makes it difficult to moderate and reply to that posters query.

It’s better to start your own thread, continue here.
Apologies

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by OBI-one » Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:08 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:40 pm
No, it’s not ok - tagging on to someone else’s post makes it difficult to moderate and reply to that posters query.

It’s better to start your own thread, continue here.
Apologies

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by OBI-one » Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:13 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:53 pm
No - best to send the original BRP to HMPO as they request and keep a copy. Your ILR BRP is the documentary proof of your child's British citizenship.
So if the baby is born a day before the ceremony and the BRP must be sent back no later than 5 days after - you have 6 days to apply fir the baby's passport? That's quite a short period...

Anyway, thanks for replying

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:25 pm

OBI-one wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:13 pm
contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:53 pm
No - best to send the original BRP to HMPO as they request and keep a copy. Your ILR BRP is the documentary proof of your child's British citizenship.
So if the baby is born a day before the ceremony and the BRP must be sent back no later than 5 days after - you have 6 days to apply fir the baby's passport? That's quite a short period...

Anyway, thanks for replying
Your priority is to obtain baby's passport. Use BRP original to secure the passport.
Afterwards send it back, not before taking a number of copies.

We have these queries from time to time - BRP holders are very worried about being fined etc - though there's no credible evidence that people have actually been fined. Some report they only remembered the card one or two years later, nobody had chased them, or send a fine notice.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by contorted_svy » Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:26 pm

OBI-one wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:13 pm
contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:53 pm
No - best to send the original BRP to HMPO as they request and keep a copy. Your ILR BRP is the documentary proof of your child's British citizenship.
So if the baby is born a day before the ceremony and the BRP must be sent back no later than 5 days after - you have 6 days to apply fir the baby's passport? That's quite a short period...

Anyway, thanks for replying
I am suggesting you should keep it and not return it to the HO at all, as it is proof of your child's citizenship. HO asks to return it when the parent naturalises or there is a risk to pay a fine, but the HO itself may ask for it in the future to prove citizenship of the applicant. This is a well-documented issue in this forum see for example british-citizenship/documents-required- ... 34674.html
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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by OBI-one » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:38 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:25 pm
OBI-one wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:13 pm
contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:53 pm
No - best to send the original BRP to HMPO as they request and keep a copy. Your ILR BRP is the documentary proof of your child's British citizenship.
So if the baby is born a day before the ceremony and the BRP must be sent back no later than 5 days after - you have 6 days to apply fir the baby's passport? That's quite a short period...

Anyway, thanks for replying
Your priority is to obtain baby's passport. Use BRP original to secure the passport.
Afterwards send it back, not before taking a number of copies.

We have these queries from time to time - BRP holders are very worried about being fined etc - though there's no credible evidence that people have actually been fined. Some report they only remembered the card one or two years later, nobody had chased them, or send a fine notice.
Thank you, will keep this in mind

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by OBI-one » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:41 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:26 pm
OBI-one wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:13 pm
contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:53 pm
No - best to send the original BRP to HMPO as they request and keep a copy. Your ILR BRP is the documentary proof of your child's British citizenship.
So if the baby is born a day before the ceremony and the BRP must be sent back no later than 5 days after - you have 6 days to apply fir the baby's passport? That's quite a short period...

Anyway, thanks for replying
I am suggesting you should keep it and not return it to the HO at all, as it is proof of your child's citizenship. HO asks to return it when the parent naturalises or there is a risk to pay a fine, but the HO itself may ask for it in the future to prove citizenship of the applicant. This is a well-documented issue in this forum see for example british-citizenship/documents-required- ... 34674.html
Thanks. It is a bit confusing when on one hand you have to send it back to avoid fine but on the other you need to keep it to prove citizenship

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:34 am

No one as far as this forum and on personal knowledge got fined for not returning it.

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by OBI-one » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:36 pm

Update

We applied for the baby's passport without the original ILR and eventually got it. First, we sent my partners passport (non UK), which he used when applying for ILR and a copy of his ILR (not certified). HMPO requested original of the ILR or the number of his British passport. My partner wrote the number of his passport on A4 and posted it to HMPO. Next, they asked for the immigration status of our child (they are born British) or the date when my partner first entered UK. Again, the date was hand written on A4 and posted to HMPO. A few days later we received an email that the baby's passport is being printed. The passport itself arrived three days later. Overall it took us 3 weeks.

I hope our experience will be useful to those, who found themselves in a similar predicament

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Re: Use parent's Passport with old ILR copy?

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:20 am

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