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10 year ILR long residence

Post by Ani1984 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:39 pm

Hi Everyone,
I have applied for an ILR (SET LR) in May 2024 but Home office have refused it saying my previous application during Covid was out of time and that have break my continuous residence.
Details are as Below -
1. I came to UK on Feb 2014 on ICT Short term staff migrant and Left the UK on Dec 2014.
2. I came back to UK on May 2015 on ICT Long Term Staff migrant on May 2015 and continued extending my Visa until May'20 until my 5 years completed and the Gap between these switches was less then 180 days and i left UK with Valid visa and entered again with Valid visa.
3. In April 2020 I applied to switch to As a dependent of my Spouse in Tier 2 General Dependent Visa category and as that was the Covid time my application decision was delayed by Home office due to Covid and have got the email from Atlas that since i have submitted my Application on time hence my current Leave to remain is extended by Section 3C as that was a in time application.
4. In Between in May 2020 my Employer have asked me to submit a CV exceptional extension request as My current BRP which was originally given until Ma was getting expired.
5. AN CV Exceptional Extension application was submitted to Home Office and they have granted that and this extension was automatically extended until July 2020.
6. In Between i kept receiving email from Home office on my Dependent application submitted on April 2020 and stating due to Covid Biometric are taking longer time and we are opening them in slots and you will be notified when you are eligible.
7. In September 2020 i have got the Biometric invitation against my Dependent Visa application submitted on April 2020 and post biometric my application is granted until March 2023 and BRP received.
8. In Jan 2023 i have again submitted the Dependent Visa extension request along as a Toer 2 PBD Dependent and that was granted until March 20206.

I have applied for ILR SET(LR) in April 20204 as 10 yrs continuous residence but Home office have refused saying you have submitted Out of time CV exceptional application in May 2020 and that was again extended in June 2020 and then in July 2020 ( Point 4,5) are in picture.
10. They also mentioned my recent dependent Visa extension application in Jan 2023 which was grated until Mar 2026 was also out of time hence I don't qualify for a 10 yr. Long resident settlement.

Can you Please suggest what is wrong here as i believe i was always Lawful here and i have submitted by Visa application switching to dependent Partner was on Time in April 2020 which was later granted in Oct 2020. Home office have not mentioned anything about this application in rejection.

Any advice will be highly appreciated.

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:49 pm

If you submitted a visa application in-time and before your visa expiry in April 2020, you had section 3C until that application was decided. This means you did not need to submit ANY other application. There was a Coronavirus Extension Concession Period from 24 January 2020 to 31 July 2020 but you only needed to apply if you have no valid leave. If you had section 3C, you did not even need such an extension at all. So UKVI is wrong to say you had no lawful residence in this period. Also, did you apply before the visa expiry in Jan 2023 ??

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by Ani1984 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:12 pm

Thanks for the response Zimba.

Yes I applied for the extension in Jan 2023 where the previous granted BRP was expiring on March 2023.

Re-CV Extension - My Sponsor have asked me to submit a CV extension request hence i have submitted this. Will this have caused any out of time issue to my Visa application i applied on April 2020 which was Granted on October 2020.

Is it worth going for a PAP to Home office?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:19 pm

Ani1984 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:12 pm
Thanks for the response Zimba.

Yes I applied for the extension in Jan 2023 where the previous granted BRP was expiring on March 2023.

Re-CV Extension - My Sponsor have asked me to submit a CV extension request hence i have submitted this. Will this have caused any out of time issue to my Visa application i applied on April 2020 which was Granted on October 2020.

Is it worth going for a PAP to Home office?

Thanks for your help.
What about the application in April 2020 ?? Was that in-time and before visa expiry or not ??
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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by Ani1984 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:50 pm

Yes the Application Made on April 2020 to switch to my Spouse dependent was made before the expiry of Existing BRP which was due to expire on first week of May 2020.

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:15 am

Then UKVI is wrong to claim you did not have lawful residence. You should challenge their decision
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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:25 am

With the clear dates you outlined in your posts, haven made an in time application and having the correspondence from UKVI during the pandemic about delays to biometrics, you are on good grounds for reconsideration and getting this refusal overturned.

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by Ani1984 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:17 am

Many Thanks Zimba and Amazonian.

One Last question as i have got a refusal for ILR , will my exiting leave to remain which is valid till 2026 will still remain be valid and have no impact on that with this refusal?

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:52 pm

Ani1984 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:17 am
Many Thanks Zimba and Amazonian.

One Last question as i have got a refusal for ILR , will my exiting leave to remain which is valid till 2026 will still remain be valid and have no impact on that with this refusal?
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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by Ani1984 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:42 pm

Thanks Zimba your help is highly appreciated.

While i was applying for review to Home office i have got one more doubt as below.

Details are as Below -
In My Immigration history in this post i was entered in UK on Business Visa between January 2015 till Feb 2015 for 28 days and as per the new rules post April 2024 any entry in Visit visa will break the continuous Residence will that be the case applicable for me as well.

I was eligible for 10 years ILR route in January 2024 (28 days before the 10yrs) so not sure whether this new rule will impact my review or not sure what were the original rule for Continuous residence before April 2024.

You have cleared all my doubt on other concerns and i am good to go on those but this bit is something which just made my attention today.

Appreciate your response.

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:10 pm

Any time spent under any visitor route will not count and also breaks the continuous residence under the long residence:
Treatment of time spent in the UK as a visitor, short-term student, and seasonal worker
Any periods of time with permission in any of the following routes, are not counted in the qualifying period for the purposes of long residence and will break continuous residence for the purposes of the qualifying period for long residence:

•any category of visitor granted under ‘Appendix V: Visitor’ of the Immigration Rules
•short-term student granted under ‘Appendix Short-term Student’ of the Immigration Rules
•seasonal worker granted under ‘Appendix Temporary work – Seasonal Worker’ of the Immigration Rules

Time spent with entry clearance or permission as a visitor does not count in the qualifying period. This includes time granted under Appendix V: Visitor (the current visitor rules) and any previous visitor rules (such as paragraph 40 of Part 2 of the Immigration Rules).
Furthermore, you cannot rely on a historic 10-year qualifying period you built up in the past anymore:
Paragraph CR 6.1. of Appendix Continuous Residence sets out that the continuous residence periods will be calculated by counting back from the relevant date. This means that an applicant cannot rely on a historic 10-year qualifying period, outside of the limits defined in CR 6.1. See more detail in the Continuous residence guidance.

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by Ani1984 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:33 pm

Thanks Zimba. Does that mean this Visit Visa rule was always there in home office guidance and considered as break of Continuous residence and not introduced as part of April 2024 change.

So if Visit visa breaks continuous residence then does that mean i will only be eligible for 10 yrs route next year around April 2025 as my 10 yr. continuous residence will start from May 2015 when i entered UK in ICT Long term in May 2015.

Also is is still wise to still go ahead with PAP and ask HO to review their refusal decision and Overturned these statement where they have mentioned Out of time application where as it was all in time application and SAR also capturing those to make sure when i apply for ILR next year it's all good and clean.

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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:01 pm

The rule that excludes the visitor visa periods was introduced a year ago.

Lawful and continuous residence changes to Long Residence route from 12 April 2023

Given the above, you will qualify in 2025. You did not mention your visitor visa before, so I guess even if they accept that you had section 3C in 2020, you still will fail the requirement. So I guess there is no point in challenging it now. I suggest applying for SAR and then in 2025, attaching this with a cover letter explaining that you had section 3C in 2020
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Re: 10 year ILR long residence

Post by Ani1984 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:12 pm

Thanks Zimba Much appreciated.

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