Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

[silentghost13]

I applied for the C visa in the July 26 ( gave the documents to the consulate of Ireland in Morocco ) it s been 2 months and still didn't get an answer from the Abu Dhabi embassy I contacted the consulate here in morocco she said that even though it is eea spouse visa it could take from 2 months till 3 or even 6, even though it is urgent processing.
is that normal ?

Yes since Ireland is not part of Schengen area their EU family visas can take up to 6 months. Some worse cases 12 months.

Did you apply online and submitted the required documents to the embassy?

yes I applied online did everything.
would I be able to get it in 3 months ?

Very much doubt it. You just have to wait and see how long it takes.

Can you please answer to me? in appeal do I need to send the marriage certificate copy again or I just need to send what they said I didn't provide because they still have my passport and color copy of marriage certificate .

[Angel99]

Hi,

Provide them the information your application was refused on. Proof of relationship before marriage and evidence your spouse is in Ireland(Utility bill in her name or work contract- recent payslip / her employment summary from revenue website. If EU spouse is not yet in Ireland, proof of ticket showing she will be there on the day or before your arrival.

How long have you been married?

[silentghost13]

Hi,

Provide them the information your application was refused on. Proof of relationship before marriage and evidence your spouse is in Ireland(Utility bill in her name or work contract- recent payslip / her employment summary from revenue website. If EU spouse is not yet in Ireland, proof of ticket showing she will be there on the day or before your arrival.

How long have you been married?

we ve been married for 4 months now, and we ve been in a relationship for a year or a lil bit more, we have pictures, her tickets flights to my country, passport stamps, airbnb accommodations, text messages.
she lives with her sister is a letter from her sister and bills in the name of her sister would be enough to prove she is living there ?

[meself2]

Does she work?

In order to avail of EUTR, your spouse need to not just stay in country, but also exercise EU Treaty rights.

An EEA national residing in the State exercises their rights under the Regulations and the Directive
by engaging in one of the following activities, as outlined in Regulation 6(2) of the Regulations of
2015. The EEA national must be engaged in one or more of these activities in order for a family
member to qualify for residence under EU Treaty Rights. These details must be provided in Section
5 of the application form.
A. Employment
Where the EEA national is working for an employer in the State. This may include vocational training
programmes and some non-proprietary directors of a registered company.
B. Self-employment
Where the EEA national is a sole trader, engaged in a business partnership, or is a proprietary
director of a registered company operating in the State.
[...]
E. Residing with sufficient resources
Where the EEA national has sufficient resources to maintain themselves and any dependents in the
State and is in possession of comprehensive sickness or health insurance cover in respect of
themselves, their spouse, and any dependents. An EEA national residing on this basis must have
sufficient resources such that they would not become a burden on the social assistance system of
the State.

[silentghost13]

Does she work?

In order to avail of EUTR, your spouse need to not just stay in country, but also exercise EU Treaty rights.

An EEA national residing in the State exercises their rights under the Regulations and the Directive
by engaging in one of the following activities, as outlined in Regulation 6(2) of the Regulations of
2015. The EEA national must be engaged in one or more of these activities in order for a family
member to qualify for residence under EU Treaty Rights. These details must be provided in Section
5 of the application form.
A. Employment
Where the EEA national is working for an employer in the State. This may include vocational training
programmes and some non-proprietary directors of a registered company.
B. Self-employment
Where the EEA national is a sole trader, engaged in a business partnership, or is a proprietary
director of a registered company operating in the State.
[...]
E. Residing with sufficient resources
Where the EEA national has sufficient resources to maintain themselves and any dependents in the
State and is in possession of comprehensive sickness or health insurance cover in respect of
themselves, their spouse, and any dependents. An EEA national residing on this basis must have
sufficient resources such that they would not become a burden on the social assistance system of
the State.

Yes she is employed, they said i proved employment but residing I didn't, she lives with her sister, is a letter and her sister bills will be enough to proof she is residing there ?

[Angel99]

A signed letter from her sister confirming she lives there with address. Plus copy of utility bill confirming same.
She should also provide you a copy of a letter she received at her address from the government.

Regarding your relationship
During your 1 year before marriage. Provide them each month 2 evidence of WhatsApp/message and call logs from beginning of the month till end. **messages for the first week of month then same for last week of month** print them on A4 separately but accordingly

Older pictures of both of you together atleast 2 is enough. You can also add family picture.
All Copies of tickets and passport stamps of her to your country or if you travelled together.


**4 months of marriage is enough for EU family visa.

[silentghost13]

A signed letter from her sister confirming she lives there with address. Plus copy of utility bill confirming same.
She should also provide you a copy of a letter she received at her address from the government.

Regarding your relationship
During your 1 year before marriage. Provide them each month 2 evidence of WhatsApp/message and call logs from beginning of the month till end. **messages for the first week of month then same for last week of month** print them on A4 separately but accordingly

Older pictures of both of you together atleast 2 is enough. You can also add family picture.
All Copies of tickets and passport stamps of her to your country or if you travelled together.


**4 months of marriage is enough for EU family visa.

I don't understand the part what you said ''she received at her address from the government'' . what letter you are talking about please ?

[Angel99]

Any letter or correspondence a government body has sent to her address. Tax office, welfare office, health office. It's not necessary but you can add it.

[silentghost13]

Any letter or correspondence a government body has sent to her address. Tax office, welfare office, health office. It's not necessary but you can add it.

her sister has some letter from the court for my wife she has Vodafone bills, I will add that with the bank statement that shows she is paying the bills.
i have only 2 questions, do I need to send the marriage certificate again or I don t need to because they have it?
second question, her sister wrote a letter confirming our relationship before marriage is that going to help ?

[Angel99]

Hi,

You don't need to send marriage certificate again. And Irish bank statement from your spouse is enough. Don't add court documents or Vodafone bills

Her sister is not a proof of your relationship. I have already sent you what you can prove your relationship with.

[silentghost13]

Hi,

You don't need to send marriage certificate again. And Irish bank statement from your spouse is enough. Don't add court documents or Vodafone bills

Her sister is not a proof of your relationship. I have already sent you what you can prove your relationship with.

she has doctor receipts with the address, is it a good addition to the documents ?

[Angel99]

Hi,

You don't need to send marriage certificate again. And Irish bank statement from your spouse is enough. Don't add court documents or Vodafone bills

Her sister is not a proof of your relationship. I have already sent you what you can prove your relationship with.

she has doctor receipts with the address, is it a good addition to the documents ?

Hi,

You can add this

[Chads1988]

Hi all,
My wife applied for the EUTR1 as Im an EU citizen living and working in Ireland. We sent the EUTR1 17/09/2024. Immigration received it 18/09/2024. We received the acceptance letter 8/10/2024.
In the letter it states they have accepted her application and will review it with a decision. It also says she may obtain a temporary permission to remain. It says we must attend the office and register her stamp 4 permission, and that an officer may put a stamp 4 endorsement in her passport valid until 17/06/2025.

We called and made an appointment but the next available date is 19 December 2024.

My question is, is she able to work with this letter stating she has permission to obtain a stamp 4? This is all confusing as we are told to call and make an appointment which is actually for the IRP card, but she has permission to stay and at the appointment we must obtain a stamp 4?

[meself2]

My question is, is she able to work with this letter stating she has permission to obtain a stamp 4?

Not really. The letter itself isn't a document that is accepted by employees/etc - they would want to see the IRP card.

This is all confusing as we are told to call and make an appointment which is actually for the IRP card, but she has permission to stay and at the appointment we must obtain a stamp 4?

By "Stamp 4" they don't mean a physical stamp - it's a way of conveying the conditions of your permission in coded form; you'll get an IRP that says "Stamp 4" on it.

[Angel99]

Hi all,
My wife applied for the EUTR1 as Im an EU citizen living and working in Ireland. We sent the EUTR1 17/09/2024. Immigration received it 18/09/2024. We received the acceptance letter 8/10/2024.
In the letter it states they have accepted her application and will review it with a decision. It also says she may obtain a temporary permission to remain. It says we must attend the office and register her stamp 4 permission, and that an officer may put a stamp 4 endorsement in her passport valid until 17/06/2025.

We called and made an appointment but the next available date is 19 December 2024.

My question is, is she able to work with this letter stating she has permission to obtain a stamp 4? This is all confusing as we are told to call and make an appointment which is actually for the IRP card, but she has permission to stay and at the appointment we must obtain a stamp 4?

Your spouse has to show the registration appointment confirmation and the EUTR IRP permission letter to the employer. The employer may allow her to work at his own discretion. Some employers are aware of the registration delays.

[silentghost13]

Hi,

You don't need to send marriage certificate again. And Irish bank statement from your spouse is enough. Don't add court documents or Vodafone bills

Her sister is not a proof of your relationship. I have already sent you what you can prove your relationship with.

she has doctor receipts with the address, is it a good addition to the documents ?

Hi,

You can add this

how much screenshots i need to include from each month because i printed 168 and it was too much
also can I make 4 screenshots in one paper of A4 ?

[Angel99]

Yes you can make 4 screenshots on 1 paper, to fill up the page. You can also use WhatsApp or messenger backup. It will save all your messages as pdf.

[silentghost13]

Yes you can make 4 screenshots on 1 paper, to fill up the page. You can also use WhatsApp or messenger backup. It will save all your messages as pdf.

and how much screenshots I can make from each month and it ll be enough ?

[Karl89]

Hi all i would like to share my timeline for my application Eutr 1 .
24/05/2024 : send documents by registred post
25/05/2024 : received .
08/07/2024 : received akbowledgement lettre + temporary permission valide untill 20/02/2025 + asking me for my bank account .
22/07/2024 : received my irp card .
18/09/2024 : asking me for more documents about my relationship before marriage need more details + all my wife's payslips since start working untill now and our bank account .
22/09/2024 : i send these documents by registred post
08/10/2024 : i received email from eu traity said we need last payslip of your wife and this is the last document we asking for it .
10/10/2024 : approval lettre and still waiting my irp card stamp 4EU fam . Good luck to those waiting or future applicants, and thanks to everyone who helped me in this forum.

[gulfrador]

Have you sent EUTR4 yet? I sent yesterday, hope will be smooth and fast process..

Yes... I did. The appeal I think is decided by a different and senior officer. this officer has been kind and fast till now. it has already been acknowledged and I have a App. No. to quote.

Hi there,
Hope you are keeping well. Have you heard anything back from your appeal yet?

I sent mine in May, still no response other than acknowledgement letter. I was hoping to receive a response in 2024, but seems impossible..

Thank you!

[notme]

I retracted the appeal. Got a reply within a day acknowledging the retraction.

[gulfrador]

I retracted the appeal. Got a reply within a day acknowledging the retraction.

Oh, okay.. May I ask why have you retracted? Have you found a easier way to get the residence permit?

Thank you very much!

[notme]

Oh, okay.. May I ask why have you retracted? Have you found a easier way to get the residence permit?
Thank you very much!

The delay, the frustration it all started effect the relationship itself and the situation changed.

[Nicole77]

Hello! I am new here. Plz let me know if my question is off-topic.

I’m currently applying for a residence card under the EUTR1 and have been asked for additional documentary evidence. Here’s some background: My husband and I got married in Hong Kong and have a certificate of marriage with an Apostille, as required by the EUTR guidelines. We submitted our application of EUTR1 in October this year, but I recently received a letter asking for more documents.

I would greatly appreciate your advice on the following questions related to the new documentation requested:

1. Evidence of How, Where, and When We Met
My husband and I met in 2021 at a buffet restaurant during the COVID-19 pandemic. Due to the circumstances at the time, we didn’t take photos together.
However, we have chat history discussing the reservation and confirming details for that meeting.
Question: Is the chat history sufficient evidence to support this requirement, or should I consider including anything else?

2. Evidence of Engagement Details
Our engagement was simple and informal. It was held at a restaurant in my hometown in September 2024(during our trip to my hometown). we have a large group photo including my husband, myself, and my family taken during the celebration.
Question: Would this group photo be considered sufficient evidence of our engagement, or should I consider including anything else?

3. Evidence of When and Where We Started Living Together
We began living together last year at my husband’s mother’s house. She is the tenant, and all the utility bills are in her name.
To show this, I’ve submitted my bank statement (with the shared address) showing monthly transfers of €200 to my husband’s mother for shared expenses. My husband also transfers €200 per month to her.
Question: Is this arrangement and evidence enough to demonstrate when and where we started living together, or should I provide additional documentation?

4. Immigration History of EU Citizen Spouse
My husband moved to Ireland with his parents when he was 6 years old, and there were several trips around EU countries between 2007 and 2012. However, it’s challenging to retrieve itineraries from over 15 years ago. There's only some pics of him with his family during trip.
Additionally, as an EU citizen, there are no passport stamps for travel within the EU.
Question: What kind of documents would be acceptable to demonstrate his immigration history and travel purposes during this period?

5. Question About Temporary Stamp 4
I received a temporary Stamp 4 valid until 23/04/2025 with the letter requesting more documents.
I am currently holding a Stamp 1G (graduate visa) valid until 30/09/2025.
Question: Should I switch to the temporary Stamp 4, or is it better to stay on the Stamp 1G while waiting for the official Stamp 4EUFAM decision?

Just confused we already married and with official certi, they still ask more evidence of our relationship before marriage(Q1-Q3), is it legal here
I would really appreciate any advice or tips on what else I could include to strengthen my case. Thank you so much for your help!!

[Angel99]

Hi @Nicole77,

1. Yes chat history is sufficient
2. Family photo will suffice and if possible add the chat of your engagement plan.
3. Your bank statement, a recent utility bill from your inlaw or a letter from her confirming you lived there plus a copy of her passport.
4. You don't need to list all his travels. You can just list atleast 5 starting from couple atleast 2 years before and after you got married.

****It will be your own advantage to change to Stamp 4 as a family member of an EU citizen. Although you haven't been granted the full permission yet, your relationship with the EU citizen has been acknowledged. Simply, you can't be deported except you involve in some serious crime.

In Ireland they require proof of cohabitation before marriage for EU treaty rights even if you have a marriage certificate. Unlike Schengen countries where you fill 1 page application form and require just marriage certificate to grant you residence on the spot.