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ETIAS Family member status

Post by Paul02 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 2:59 pm

HI All,

The more I read this the less sense it makes,

I have a Polish wife, and we have two children together living in the UK, she has settlement status in the uk , I am just reading about the ETIAS Family member status, do I qualify as a Family member?

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Re: ETIAS Family member status

Post by theolddog » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:14 pm

Yes as long as she is travelling in her EU passport and you have your marriage certificate with you, and children’s birth certificates to prove the family connection to her and you

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Re: ETIAS Family member status

Post by Ticktack » Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:58 pm

Paul02 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 2:59 pm
HI All,

The more I read this the less sense it makes,

I have a Polish wife, and we have two children together living in the UK, she has settlement status in the uk , I am just reading about the ETIAS Family member status, do I qualify as a Family member?
This requirement for ETIAS does not apply to family members of EU citizens or those of non-EU nationals who have the right to move freely throughout the European Union.

If you're not from a visa exempt country, then you would require a visa to enter the EU. The need for a visa stems from the fact that no airline might carry you without one.
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Re: ETIAS Family member status

Post by abbott25 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:31 am

I’m in a same boat, I have a partner who’s Polish citizen with settled status in UK and we have a daughter who’s a Polish citizen, my self I’m British citizen, my question is would I need eti as if I can show my daughter birth certificate as a proof of EU family member? I do t have EEA visa for family member.

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Re: ETIAS Family member status

Post by Ticktack » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:44 am

Family members include:

a spouse, including a spouse of the same sex as clarified by the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) in its Coman judgment C-673/16;
a registered partner, if the applicable legislation treats registered partnerships as equivalent to marriage;
direct descendants who are under the age of 21 or are dependants, and those of the spouse or registered partner;
dependent direct relatives in the ascending line, as well as those of the spouse or registered partner.
Applicants with family-member status do not have to pay the EUR 7 application fee. Their application will also not be checked against screening rules on illegal immigration.
These exemptions apply to you if you meet the following conditions:

1. You are a family member of a European Union citizen and Directive 2004/38/EC applies to you, or a family member of a national of Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, or Switzerland who enjoys the right of free movement equivalent to that of EU citizens.
Important: This only concerns family members of citizens of the forementioned countries travelling to or residing in a country other than that of their nationality;

2. you are not required to hold a visa;

3. you do not hold a residence card pursuant to Directive 2004/38/EC or a residence permit pursuant to Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002.

You must meet all these conditions to be eligible for an ETIAS travel authorisation with the family member status.

Example 1

You are a Mexican citizen. You are the spouse of a French national, and you want to visit her in France, where she lives.

In the ETIAS application form do not declare yourself as a family member, as Directive 2004/38/EC does not apply to you. You need to apply for an ETIAS travel authorisation without family-member status and pay the fee of EUR 7.

Please note if you declare yourself as a family member in the ETIAS application form, your statement will not be considered truthful. In this case, your ETIAS travel authorisation may be revoked and you may be denied entry at the border of France.

Example 2

You are an American citizen. You are 17 years old and the son of a French national, and you want to visit your father in Spain, where he lives.

When filling in the ETIAS application form, you may declare yourself as a family member, as Directive 2004/38/EC does apply to you when travelling to Spain. You will not need to pay the fee of EUR 7. You will be required to prove your family status at the border of Spain, otherwise you may be denied entry and your ETIAS travel authorisation may be revoked.

Please note, in this example, your ETIAS travel authorisation is not valid for travelling to France.
If you wish to travel to France, you will need to apply for a new ETIAS travel authorisation without declaring family-member status and pay the fee of EUR 7. This ETIAS travel authorisation will be valid in all the European countries requiring ETIAS, regardless of your status as a family member.
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Re: ETIAS Family member status

Post by Angel99 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:51 pm

abbott25 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:31 am
I’m in a same boat, I have a partner who’s Polish citizen with settled status in UK and we have a daughter who’s a Polish citizen, my self I’m British citizen, my question is would I need eti as if I can show my daughter birth certificate as a proof of EU family member? I do t have EEA visa for family member.
Yes you will need ETIAS or EU freemovement visa if you want to cross to mainland Europe for a short time. In the past you could cross without a visa regardless whether a visa waiver national and use your marriage certificate as a form of right to entry for short visits but now all none visa nationals will need the ETIAS. Unless you are entrying by land then exceptions can be made.

However you can remain in EU for more than 90days with marriage certificate if you register your residence in any of the EU countries.


**This doesn't apply if you are using Poland as entry.

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Re: ETIAS Family member status

Post by Angel99 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 am

Regarding your daughter's Polish nationality, it can be beneficial if you were moving to another EU country with the child and you have sufficient funds. You will need am EU family member visa beforehand or use visa waiver

For de facto partners of EU citizens you will still need an EU family member visa or enter with ETIAS.

Only advantage is you can settle in any EU country in both cases even if you entered with ETIAS

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Re: ETIAS Family member status

Post by abbott25 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:14 pm

@angel99 you are a god send my friend and thank you ever so much for a very informative message regarding my subject, your time is valuable but you set aside a chunk of your time to provide that invaluable information, may god bless you my good friend

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