Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

[ashubby]

We are also thinking of doing Civil Partnership before our moving to Ireland.

That will not be accepted in Ireland AFAIK.
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... -v1123.pdf

A civil partner for the purpose of the qualifying family member definition above refers to same
sex civil partners. Civil partnerships entered into before the commencement of the Marriage Act
2015 may apply using Form EUTR1 while civil partnerships entered into after the commencement
of the Marriage Act 2015 may apply using Form EUTR1A.

I assume you're different sex.

Thanks @meself2
Do you mean as long we have been living together for a long period of time and our both names was on our tenancy agreements and utility bills since 2017 when we've been living together. Also got 3 children for each other. Will this be ok as a proof even if the civil partnership won't be accepted.

[meself2]

We are also thinking of doing Civil Partnership before our moving to Ireland.

That will not be accepted in Ireland AFAIK.
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... -v1123.pdf

A civil partner for the purpose of the qualifying family member definition above refers to same
sex civil partners. Civil partnerships entered into before the commencement of the Marriage Act
2015 may apply using Form EUTR1 while civil partnerships entered into after the commencement
of the Marriage Act 2015 may apply using Form EUTR1A.

I assume you're different sex.

Thanks meself2
Do you mean as long we have been living together for a long period of time and our both names was on our tenancy agreements and utility bills since 2017 when we've been living together. Also got 3 children for each other. Will this be ok as a proof even if the civil partnership won't be accepted.

If werw just living together, most likely you'll have to go via EUTR1A, not EUTR1 - that would be a bit less seamless and could take longer.
I'm not an expert on EU judgements re guardians- other forum members might chime in to suggest whether or not my statement is the most correct considering children.

[Angel99]

@ashubby

Hi,
If you will move to Ireland and apply for residence for them without being married, you have to go via EUTR1A (Partnership) otherwise you go via EUTR1 (married). EUTR1 will of course be faster because you are married. (Civil partnership will not work in your case).

In both cases you need to show you have sufficient funds either personal money or job wise.

Both cases you will still need to show proof of cohabitation (proof you lived together for atleast 1 year before moving but the EUTR1 has less requirements.) Since you already have kids together
before moving, your case is straightforward.

In my opinion don't rush to marry since you have already proven relationship by having a family.

The EUTR1A (Partnership) can take few months to finalise or even couple of weeks to get temporary stamp 4 in your case.

[ashubby]

@ashubby

Hi,
If you will move to Ireland and apply for residence for them without being married, you have to go via EUTR1A (Partnership) otherwise you go via EUTR1 (married). EUTR1 will of course be faster because you are married. (Civil partnership will not work in your case).

In both cases you need to show you have sufficient funds either personal money or job wise.

Both cases you will still need to show proof of cohabitation (proof you lived together for atleast 1 year before moving but the EUTR1 has less requirements.) Since you already have kids together
before moving, your case is straightforward.

In my opinion don't rush to marry since you have already proven relationship by having a family.

The EUTR1A (Partnership) can take few months to finalise or even couple of weeks to get temporary stamp 4 in your case.

Thanks so much @Angel99

Am now getting things right. Now i understand that i should go via EUTR1A instead of EUTR1 in as much we are not yet married but only living together and got children for each other.
So i need to bring along our tenancy agreements and utility bills that shows me and my partner names along with us when coming to Ireland. So i think we don't need to do the CIVIL PARTNERSHIP again so far is not accepted for the EUTR1.

And i got to know that i need to get a job before his Visa expired because my partner is coming with a visiting visa (C). So after getting a job then we can apply for the EUTR1A.

I so much appreciate everyone response to my questions.

[Angel99]

@ashubby

Exactly. The documents needed are;

******Use registered An post next day delivery to submit her file.

*You and your partner's ID card/ passport data page copy
*Your children's birth certificate
*All pages of her passport but separate the ones with Irish visa and landing stamp.
*Copy of children's visa and landing stamp
*Irish utility bill (if it's in your name just write a note on top that your partner lives there or confirmation letter from renter that you and your partner live there)
* Tenancy agreement from and utility bills from your old residence proving you and your partner lived together Or letter from someone with an ID confirming you lived ik their house Or
* Text messages/via social apps you sent each other before kids and travel stamps or tickets you both had together.


When she's given the temporary stamp or full permission, you need to contact your relevant immigration office depending on where you live in Ireland to book an appointment to register her residence.

[Angel99]

2 payslips and employment contract Or proof of sufficient funds in your bank account.

[ashubby]

@ashubby

Exactly. The documents needed are;

******Use registered An post next day delivery to submit her file.

*You and your partner's ID card/ passport data page copy
*Your children's birth certificate
*All pages of her passport but separate the ones with Irish visa and landing stamp.
*Copy of children's visa and landing stamp
*Irish utility bill (if it's in your name just write a note on top that your partner lives there or confirmation letter from renter that you and your partner live there)
* Tenancy agreement from and utility bills from your old residence proving you and your partner lived together Or letter from someone with an ID confirming you lived ik their house Or
* Text messages/via social apps you sent each other before kids and travel stamps or tickets you both had together.


When she's given the temporary stamp or full permission, you need to contact your relevant immigration office depending on where you live in Ireland to book an appointment to register her residence.

Thanks so much @Angel99
I so much appreciate you all. Am ok with all you guys response for now.

[Jason0924]

Hi guys,

With my partner we applied for EU1A and have had a positive outcome until now. Just wanted to share our timeline for reference as I used this thread to seek for information on this topic.

Date of Application: Feb 12 2024
Date of Acknowledgement letter sent: Jun 05 2024 -- asking for more documents. New documents sent Jun 10 2024
Date of Stamp 4 received: Jun 18 2024 -- Valid until Mar 2025.
Date of final approval or refusal: Pending

With my partner we have a civil partnership established in France (PACS), even if it's not recognized by Ireland I believe it played in our favor. Between Feb and Jun, we did send one email asking for acknowledgement for our application because we were traveling after the first 90 day permission given at the airport to my partner. She does not require a visa to visit the state.

Good luck to anyone in this process.

Hi, did you have any problems traveling with only acknowledgement letter ?

[Angel99]

@Jason0924

You can't travel out of Ireland with acknowledgement letter unless you don't want to return. Not even the registration stamp in passport.

[Jason0924]

@Jason0924

You can't travel out of Ireland with acknowledgement letter unless you don't want to return. Not even the registration stamp in passport.

Literally if you see the comment that I quoted, you wouldn’t be so sure

[Angel99]

@Jason0924

You can't travel out of Ireland with acknowledgement letter unless you don't want to return. Not even the registration stamp in passport.

Literally if you see the comment that I quoted, you wouldn’t be so sure

The registered partner is a visa waiver national to Ireland so the acknowledgement letter was irrelevant to your question. All visa required nationals can not return with acknowledgement letter.

Either they were waiting for acknowledgement to prove at the airport the partner hasn't overstayed since the partner already used the 3 months landing stamp permit or just to be sure their application was accepted.

[Precieuse123]

Hello to all dear members,

I need your help, we have sent EUTR1 forms to Eu Treaty rights on 19th December,
Do you have any idea how long time it will take.
My husband is French national and me NON EU National.

I am also pregnant and having problem to get PPSN. They are asking for IRP,

Looking forward

[Angel99]

Hello to all dear members,

I need your help, we have sent EUTR1 forms to Eu Treaty rights on 19th December,
Do you have any idea how long time it will take.
My husband is French national and me NON EU National.

I am also pregnant and having problem to get PPSN. They are asking for IRP,

Looking forward

Hi,

If you submitted most of the required documents expect to receive a temporary stamp 4 within 1 month or 2. The final decision normally takes 6 months but there are some cases it took 2-3 months.

You should have included your pregnancy documents to your application. It could speed up your application.

Regarding PPSN. Did you apply online?. You don't need an IRP unless your reason for applying was driver's license or welfare.

[AbdullahFarooq]

Hello Dear,

While applying for EUFAM 4 , As proof of adress we have child who is born in ireland we have child birth certificate from HSE on the address we staying and letters from hospital and revenue , social data protection department Bankstatement , all these documents have same address . do we have to submit landlord confirmation while we stay with friend on the same address we have on those letters?

Thank you

[Angel99]

Hello Dear,

While applying for EUFAM 4 , As proof of adress we have child who is born in ireland we have child birth certificate from HSE on the address we staying and letters from hospital and revenue , social data protection department Bankstatement , all these documents have same address . do we have to submit landlord confirmation while we stay with friend on the same address we have on those letters?

Thank you

Hi,

It's not clear whether you or your spouse is the applicant. Just ask your friend to write a note on a utility bill (Garbage collection, electric or gas bill) that he or she confirms the applicant "full name" resides with the friend. And a letter confirming the the applicant lives there,from your friend. Your friend is the one on the lease.

[Precieuse124]

Hello to all dear members,

I need your help, we have sent EUTR1 forms to Eu Treaty rights on 19th December,
Do you have any idea how long time it will take.
My husband is French national and me NON EU National.

I am also pregnant and having problem to get PPSN. They are asking for IRP,

Looking forward

Hi,

If you submitted most of the required documents expect to receive a temporary stamp 4 within 1 month or 2. The final decision normally takes 6 months but there are some cases it took 2-3 months.

You should have included your pregnancy documents to your application. It could speed up your application.

Regarding PPSN. Did you apply online?. You don't need an IRP unless your reason for applying was driver's license or welfare.

Thank you Angel for your reply,
I forgot my password so had to create new account.

Yes i applied PPSN online but i got a mail with an appointment to finalise in person, once there they said that i can’t apply for driving licence as i don’t have IRP, so can’t get PPSN, then I told them that i was pregnant so they asked to bring either IRP/GNIB or Doctor’s letter that i need PPSN. And noted on a paper with letter head of département,

I sent a mail to EUTR (eutrvisa@justice.ie)by attaching that paper asking for IRP, but EUTR replied « We can only answer queries in relation to EUTR visa applications at this address.
Please visit the Digital Contact Centre (DCC) ».

I went to see a GP but refused to make a letter. I will go to the hospital tomorrow. Let’s see.

[Angel99]

Hi @Precieuse123

If you don't already have a GP or medical card just print out the form (Don't fill it out). This will suffice.

You don't need an IRP for GP/Medical card.

https://www2.hse.ie/documents/77/Medica ... n_Form.pdf

[Anand2321]

Dear all, we have submitted EUTR1 form and been asked copies of full passport colour all pages. Does anyone know the reason for this and how long the approval takes

[Angel99]

Dear all, we have submitted EUTR1 form and been asked copies of full passport colour all pages. Does anyone know the reason for this and how long the approval takes

Its a normal procedure. In color copy, all pages including blank pages of your passport.

Since they only asked for this you shoupd expect a temporary stamp 4 registration letter within 4 weeks.

The final approval for stamp 4 EUfam registration will take up to 7 months.

[AbdullahFarooq]

We have submitted that note from friend in our Names of both. How long it might take? Thanks for reply

[Angel99]

We have submitted that note from friend in our Names of both. How long it might take? Thanks for reply

Already explained to you it will take within 4 weeks to receive a temporary approval for stamp 4.
Then the applicant will need to request for appointment online to register at the ISD Registration Office, Burgh Quay, Dublin.

You can check the progress of the application, appointments, changes and many more on;

https://portal.irishimmigration.ie/en/

All the best!.

[abhi11]

Hi,

I am a non-EU national, and my partner is an EU national. We are in a de-facto partnership and have submitted an application using the EUTR1A form. We recently received an acknowledgment letter requesting additional documents.

1. They requested evidence of cohabitation for the last two years. In our application, we indicated that we are living with a homeowner, and we submitted the required documents as per the checklist. They acknowledged the homeowner’s letter that stated that we have been sharing the property since 2022. As an extra they have asked for tenancy agreement for the years 2023 and 2024. The homeowner is a family friend and we do not have a written agreement—only a verbal one. How can we explain this and how should we prove that we have lived together at this address for over 2 years?

2. They also requested additional utility bills TV license, doctors letter, etc. We share a Wi-Fi connection with the homeowner and use a pre-paid meter electricity meter. Last month we got a separate wifi connection but it’s only in my name, since it was installed in the last month only, we don’t have utility bills in our name for the past two years. How or what should we submit under the utility bills in this case?

3. I also have a question regarding my work documents. I worked part-time from 2022–2023, which I did not mention in the application as the focus was on my full-time job from 2023–2024. They asked for my contract of employment and wage slips from that job, which I can provide. Would it also be helpful to submit documents related to my part-time work?

[ashubby]

Hello Everyone

I dont know if am the only person seeing what @abhi11 post. Please if any user have knowledge of his request should tell him what to do. He might need an urgent answer to the post. Thanks

[CR001]

Hello Everyone

I dont know if am the only person seeing what @abhi11 post. Please if any user have knowledge of his request should tell him what to do. He might need an urgent answer to the post. Thanks

You don't have to bump other users posts. We are all unpaid volunteers on the forum and all have other job and family commitments. Members will post if they have advice and wish to post advice.

[abhi11]

Hi All,



Thank you @ashubby for your post.

I want to express my deepest gratitude to everyone in this forum for their kindness and willingness to help others. I truly appreciate the time and effort you all put in, especially knowing that everyone has their own responsibilities and personal lives. I’m in urgent need of assistance with my previous post, as I have just one week to submit the required documents. Any help would mean the world to me, and I would be forever grateful to those who can guide me through this. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.