Advise on AN and MN1

[adiraian]

Hello guys,

Sorry if it's not relevant place to post here. I was looking for the thread but couldn't find any.

I am British, and my wife recently received her ILR yesterday. She is now filling out the AN form, which includes an option to add another applicant. We would like to include our two children under 18 for their registration. The form itself allows us to add them, and the fee calculation appears correct.

However, after researching, I have found conflicting information. Many sources and AI reports suggest that children should not be added via the AN form and that they need to submit individual applications instead.

Could someone please clarify whether it is acceptable to add our children on the AN form or if they must apply separately? Your guidance would be greatly appreciated.

[alterhase58]

Yes, acceptable.
The AN form system will adjust to MN1 requirements when you add children.
A separate MN1 form is required when child applies only, without parent/s.

[contorted_svy]

Only trust government sources and definitely do not trust AI on immigration/nationality matters. If you add a second applicant to the AN form, you will be asked their age and the form will adjust to the MN1 form once you confirm they are under 18.

[adiraian]

Dear All,

Hope everyone is doing well.

Scenario:

I am British and brought my family in 2012. My wife and two children (who born outside UK)were on dependent visas, while I was a settled person. Over the years, I also had two children born in the UK who are British.

After 10 years, I applied for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) for my wife, which she received two days ago.

Now, I want to register my two children (who are under 18 and born outside UK before I got British ) directly, instead of applying for ILR first and then registration, to avoid extra fees.

Questions:

Is it possible to register my British children directly without applying for ILR first?

Is it acceptable to apply within the Adult Naturalisation (AN) route and include them using the MN1 form (since there is an option to add children)?

[secret.simon]

Have the children completed 10 years of legal residence in the UK?

Do both children and both parents have legal residence in the UK currently?

[adiraian]

Have the children completed 10 years of legal residence in the UK?

Do both children and both parents have legal residence in the UK currently?

Have the children completed 10 years of legal residence in the UK? - Yes

Do both children and both parents have legal residence in the UK currently? - Yes, I obtained my ILR just after they arrived in UK, since then both the children and my wife been on legally for 10 years and my wife just obtained her ILR.

Additional question:-

Is that OK to apply AN for my wife and add under 18 children's in the same form? The form itself has that option.

[secret.simon]

Have the children completed 10 years of legal residence in the UK? - Yes

Do both children and both parents have legal residence in the UK currently? - Yes, I obtained my ILR just after they arrived in UK, since then both the children and my wife been on legally for 10 years and my wife just obtained her ILR.

In that case, it should be OK for the children to apply directly for registration as a British citizenship without ILR.

[adiraian]

Thank you Simon,

Any thought on my additional question.

Is that OK to apply AN for my wife and add under 18 children's in the same form? The form itself has that option.

[CR001]

Yes, acceptable.
The AN form system will adjust to MN1 requirements when you add children.
A separate MN1 form is required when child applies only, without parent/s.

You were already given advice on this when you asked initially!!

The answer doesn't change.

[adiraian]

Thank you everyone.

Sorry I missed the last bit from @alterhase58 reply.

Hence I asked again with Simon.

Thank you all for your support.

[adiraian]

Sorry everyone,

Just worked out kids continues life in the UK, as I have applied wife's ILR 28 days before she complete4d her 10 years , I don't think kids would have completed their 10 yrs yet.

To be precise, they have now completed 9 years, 11 months, and 8 days as of today.

I understand that the process can take more than 3 months, so by the time they meet the 10-year requirement, some time may have passed. My question is: does the caseworker count from the date the case was opened or from the date of submitting the application?

Would it be okay to apply for the Adult Natualisation (AN) along with the MN1 today, or would it be safer to wait 22 more days until they have completed 10 years?

Thank you.

[contorted_svy]

Just wait 22 more days to apply all together, or submit the applications on different dates. Best to wait 3 weeks than to get your application rejected (and lose the money) on a technicality.

[secret.simon]

I agree with @contorted_svy above. Better to wait for a complete 10 year period than get the application rejected.

The route for children born outside the UK to register as British citizens without ILR after 10 years of legal residence in the UK is relatively new (only introduced June/July 2024) and it is worth remembering that it is still an application at discretion, not a right/entitlement.

It would be wise to wait for a complete period of 10 years than to place your hopes on the goodwill of a caseworker. Better to err on the side of caution.