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priya_bhosale
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Application rejected, help needed

Post by priya_bhosale » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:42 pm

Hello,

I am on HSMP and my application for extension under tier1 general has unfortunately been rejected.

It was rejected under the earnings section. I have two sources of earnings - one from the uk and the other from india. The salary for the indian source is deposited in an indian bank account. The reason given by the home office is - 'Unable to verify bank statements for (name of the indian bank) and therefore unable to corroborate earnings from (name of the indian employer)'

Most probably either they could not get through to the bank on the phone number or they got through and the person they spoke to could not understand their english! The bank is a small local bank where people are not very good at english.

I have been given the right to appeal. I would like some kind advice on how i should go about the appeal. Considering the situation, in my opinion the only thing that created the problem was that they could not verify the bank statements. They had already confirmed the earnings by calling my employer which my employer told me about and that went fine. I would appreciate experienced members to comment on how i should go about the appeal and what could be done in order for them to enable them to verify the bank statements.

Also if anyone could advise if its advisable to go through a solicitor.

Thank you very much.

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Post by ChetanOjha » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:45 pm

Was your Indian Bank statement on Bank Stationary and met all the requiment of HO viz. logo,address,stamp,signed etc.?

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Post by drjabberwocky23 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:46 pm

At the risk of asking the obvious, were the bank statements from the Indian bank on the official letterhead and did they meet all the other criteria required for the bank statements?

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Post by priya_bhosale » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:10 pm

Yes the bank statements were on official stationary, had the bank logo and also were stamped. The reason given was that they were unable to 'verify' them. Not that they didnt meet the requirements.

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Post by drjabberwocky23 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:12 pm

priya_bhosale wrote:Yes the bank statements were on official stationary, had the bank logo and also were stamped. The reason given was that they were unable to 'verify' them. Not that they didnt meet the requirements.
Did you check with your bank to see if anybody had contacted them regarding your application?

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Post by maheshnair » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:13 pm

priya_bhosale wrote:Yes the bank statements were on official stationary, had the bank logo and also were stamped. The reason given was that they were unable to 'verify' them. Not that they didnt meet the requirements.
Hi All ,

If you are in HSMP and making an extension , your earnings should be in UK . That is what i feel . Am i right seniors .

How can you show a income made in INDIA ?

why is your company giving 2 salaries . 1 in india 1 in uk .

Always be sure that the stuffs are simple , else HO will definitely take us for a ride ?

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Re: doubts

Post by drjabberwocky23 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:21 pm

maheshnair wrote:
priya_bhosale wrote:Yes the bank statements were on official stationary, had the bank logo and also were stamped. The reason given was that they were unable to 'verify' them. Not that they didnt meet the requirements.
Hi All ,

If you are in HSMP and making an extension , your earnings should be in UK . That is what i feel . Am i right seniors .

How can you show a income made in INDIA ?

why is your company giving 2 salaries . 1 in india 1 in uk .

Always be sure that the stuffs are simple , else HO will definitely take us for a ride ?
I think you will need some earnings in the UK, but I aslo think it's OK if a proportion of the earnings are made overseas. Nevertheless, the reason given by the caseworker for rejection is due to a lack of rejection rather than an inappropriate claim of points...which suggests that they did accept her earnings from overseas but only couldn't veryfy them.

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Post by priya_bhosale » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:34 pm

Thank you for the comments.

I havent checked with my bank if they were called as i just received the rejection letter today. And yes they have accepted my income as it says in the Tier1 guidelines that overseas income is acceptable. The problem was with the verification of the evidence.

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Post by ChetanOjha » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:16 pm

If you have some time left in your visa, then you can challenge the verdict. Get a letter from Bank saying nobody has called them to verify your details. This should put HO on backfoot.

Sr. Members can provide more light on it.

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Post by priya_bhosale » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:17 pm

I dont have time left on my visa but i have the right to appeal and the deadline is till 8th april to launch the appeal

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Post by nksg » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:21 pm

Hi Priya,

Sorry to know on your refusal... but

Did you talk to any solicitor?

Regards,

NK

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Re: doubts

Post by nnj10 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:20 pm

maheshnair wrote:
priya_bhosale wrote:Yes the bank statements were on official stationary, had the bank logo and also were stamped. The reason given was that they were unable to 'verify' them. Not that they didnt meet the requirements.
Hi All ,

If you are in HSMP and making an extension , your earnings should be in UK . That is what i feel . Am i right seniors .

How can you show a income made in INDIA ?

why is your company giving 2 salaries . 1 in india 1 in uk .

Always be sure that the stuffs are simple , else HO will definitely take us for a ride ?
One can definately show overseas earnings e.g. in case of short term deputation overseas etc.

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Post by push » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:35 pm

priya_bhosale wrote:Thank you for the comments.

I havent checked with my bank if they were called as i just received the rejection letter today. And yes they have accepted my income as it says in the Tier1 guidelines that overseas income is acceptable. The problem was with the verification of the evidence.
The best course of action for you will be to find out if at all any contact was established with the Bank and then plan the next step.

When I applied a few years ago, I found to my horror that the my employer could not be contacted from out of country due to some switching problems at the local telephone exchange. So call your bank and find out (1) If there was any contact, (2) If yes, how was it handled (3) Direct contact details of the senior person there.
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Post by priya_bhosale » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:03 pm

push_hsmp wrote:
priya_bhosale wrote:Thank you for the comments.

I havent checked with my bank if they were called as i just received the rejection letter today. And yes they have accepted my income as it says in the Tier1 guidelines that overseas income is acceptable. The problem was with the verification of the evidence.
The best course of action for you will be to find out if at all any contact was established with the Bank and then plan the next step.

When I applied a few years ago, I found to my horror that the my employer could not be contacted from out of country due to some switching problems at the local telephone exchange. So call your bank and find out (1) If there was any contact, (2) If yes, how was it handled (3) Direct contact details of the senior person there.

I had checked with the bank and they had not contacted them till about 5 days ago. The problem with the bank is (as it being a small bank) the phone could be answered by anyone as there isnt a switchboard or anything.

So can you advise what course of action should be taken for the following scenarios:

1. Bank was contacted but the person who answered was not able to confirm the details.

2. Bank was not contacted.

3. No one can tell if it was contacted or not as may be the person who answered the call just hung up as he/she didnt understand the other person (HO person) and hence didnt understand what the call was about!

Thank you for your comments.

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How to make a Urgent treatment

Post by kingK » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:23 am

Can anyone please tell as how to male an urgent treatment claim, whom to contact -- phoneno,mailid and the address

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Post by gotcha » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:13 pm

priya_bhosale wrote:
push_hsmp wrote:
priya_bhosale wrote:Thank you for the comments.

I havent checked with my bank if they were called as i just received the rejection letter today. And yes they have accepted my income as it says in the Tier1 guidelines that overseas income is acceptable. The problem was with the verification of the evidence.
The best course of action for you will be to find out if at all any contact was established with the Bank and then plan the next step.

When I applied a few years ago, I found to my horror that the my employer could not be contacted from out of country due to some switching problems at the local telephone exchange. So call your bank and find out (1) If there was any contact, (2) If yes, how was it handled (3) Direct contact details of the senior person there.

I had checked with the bank and they had not contacted them till about 5 days ago. The problem with the bank is (as it being a small bank) the phone could be answered by anyone as there isnt a switchboard or anything.

So can you advise what course of action should be taken for the following scenarios:

1. Bank was contacted but the person who answered was not able to confirm the details.

2. Bank was not contacted.

3. No one can tell if it was contacted or not as may be the person who answered the call just hung up as he/she didnt understand the other person (HO person) and hence didnt understand what the call was about!

Thank you for your comments.
Priya,

Verification is not done in all cases, but where there is reasonable doubt arises. Seeing your previous posts
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... ht=#190020

There is something more than, stated problem. Which none from board can help you to sort out.

I wonder how HO can match your earning if you have deposit of 3 months(due to some tax issues) salary in one month. No wonder they tried to verify with your bank.

Get some legal adviser's help.

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Post by priya_bhosale » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:10 am

gotcha wrote:
priya_bhosale wrote:
push_hsmp wrote:
priya_bhosale wrote:Thank you for the comments.

I havent checked with my bank if they were called as i just received the rejection letter today. And yes they have accepted my income as it says in the Tier1 guidelines that overseas income is acceptable. The problem was with the verification of the evidence.
The best course of action for you will be to find out if at all any contact was established with the Bank and then plan the next step.

When I applied a few years ago, I found to my horror that the my employer could not be contacted from out of country due to some switching problems at the local telephone exchange. So call your bank and find out (1) If there was any contact, (2) If yes, how was it handled (3) Direct contact details of the senior person there.

I had checked with the bank and they had not contacted them till about 5 days ago. The problem with the bank is (as it being a small bank) the phone could be answered by anyone as there isnt a switchboard or anything.

So can you advise what course of action should be taken for the following scenarios:

1. Bank was contacted but the person who answered was not able to confirm the details.

2. Bank was not contacted.

3. No one can tell if it was contacted or not as may be the person who answered the call just hung up as he/she didnt understand the other person (HO person) and hence didnt understand what the call was about!

Thank you for your comments.
Priya,

Verification is not done in all cases, but where there is reasonable doubt arises. Seeing your previous posts
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... ht=#190020

There is something more than, stated problem. Which none from board can help you to sort out.

I wonder how HO can match your earning if you have deposit of 3 months(due to some tax issues) salary in one month. No wonder they tried to verify with your bank.

Get some legal adviser's help.

It was suggested on this forum that i should get a letter from employer saying the first 3 months salary was credited into the bank account on one single day as a single deposit.

Hence my two evidences for earnings section were bank statement and letter from employer. The letter from employer clearly states the dates on which the salaries were credited. So from the letter its clear that the salaries for the first 3 months were credited on a single day as one deposit.

Yes i am meeting solicitors and will be launching my appeal soon.

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